Donald Trump vs. Sports

[Willie-T]

I'm seeing you in a very different light, Galatia. And it throws a bit of a prejudiced shadow.

 

[Galatea]

I'm seeing you in a very different light, Galatia. And it throws a bit of a prejudiced shadow.

I think if we examine ourselves, we would all find inherent biases and prejudices, which we should try to fight against and TRY to see people as people and not stereotype but take each person on his merits. I don't think making generalizations based on race is ever a good idea.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

I think if we examine ourselves, we would all find inherent biases and prejudices, which we should try to fight against and TRY to see people as people and not stereotype but take each person on his merits. I don't think making generalizations based on race is ever a good idea.

I examine myself often. I truly do.

watch and see what happens

The phrase "inherent bias" refers to the effect of underlying factors or assumptions that skew viewpoints a subject under discussion. There are multiple formal definitions of "inherent bias" which depend on the particular field of study.
In statistics, the phrase is used in relation to an inability to measure accurately and directly what one would wish to measure, meaning that indirect measurements are used which might be subject to unknown distortions.

compliments of good ole wiki

if you really believe this, you should never express any opinion again because if you do, you make yourself the example of your own post

now think about that

and then there are the facts. perhaps they are inherent facts

 

[Galatea]

I examine myself often. I truly do.

watch and see what happens

The phrase "inherent bias" refers to the effect of underlying factors or assumptions that skew viewpoints a subject under discussion. There are multiple formal definitions of "inherent bias" which depend on the particular field of study.
In statistics, the phrase is used in relation to an inability to measure accurately and directly what one would wish to measure, meaning that indirect measurements are used which might be subject to unknown distortions.

compliments of good ole wiki

if you really believe this, you should never express any opinion again because if you do, you make yourself the example of your own post

now think about that

and then there are the facts. perhaps they are inherent facts

Do you think there is a such thing as a completely objective person? I am afraid of people who believe they are objective, because I don't think they question their own perceptions and thoughts. I think we should ask "why do I think as I do?"

 

[PennEd]

Most people simply can't handle truth, especially blacks that have been force fed the disgusting lie America is a racist country, and police are out to get them. Their minds simply can't compute the truth, and it's far easier to remain a victim. EVEN when it is another black telling them the truth.[video=youtube;piwaBO6U43U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piwaBO6U43U[/video]

 

[Willie-T]

I think if we examine ourselves, we would all find inherent biases and prejudices, which we should try to fight against and TRY to see people as people and not stereotype but take each person on his merits. I don't think making generalizations based on race is ever a good idea.

I do. It is the smart way not to keep getting burned. I told you I hired literally dozens of Blacks, and not one of them even tried to earn the money paid to them. I would not hire another Black person again in my life because I saw how every single one I hired thumbed their noses at a very good-paying job that offered a chance to really get somewhere in life.

Are you prejudiced because you safeguard yourself, your employer, and the hard-working people already employed, by finally realizing that every single Black you ever hired (except for the older, good Black men who were already there when I took over) just wanted to be given money for showing up? I don't think you are. I think those deadbeats should become charity cases on someone else's job, not mine. I worked for my employer, to make them money, not to coddle a bunch of welfare "gimmie" entitlement brats.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Do you think there is a such thing as a completely objective person? I am afraid of people who believe they are objective, because I don't think they question their own perceptions and thoughts. I think we should ask "why do I think as I do?"

and yet we ask judges, police, and judges at dog shows to be objective

and hope for a subjective decision based on our own objectivity

what is the criteria for objectivity?

 

[Galatea]

I do. It is the smart way not to keep getting burned. I told you I hired literally dozens of Blacks, and not one of them even tried to earn the money paid to them. I would not hire another Black person again in my life because I saw how every single one I hired thumbed their noses at a very good-paying job that offered a chance to really get somewhere in life.

Are you prejudiced because you safeguard yourself, your employer, and the hard-working people already employed, by finally realizing that every single Black you ever hired (except for the older, good Black men who were already there when I took over) just wanted to be given money for showing up? I don't think you are. I think those deadbeats should become charity cases on someone else's job, not mine. I worked for my employer, to make them money, not to coddle a bunch of welfare "gimmie" entitlement brats.

I don't know how many people you hired. Let's say it was 2,000. You still did not hire every black person in the country. Nor did you have much respect for your employees. You said you put every black person on a wheel barrow. I am sure it was noised about that Mr. Willie did not respect black people and gave them menial jobs, which doesn't really inspire morale and a strong work ethic. Your attitude here was probably apparent to the employees then.

 

[Galatea]

and yet we ask judges, police, and judges at dog shows to be objective

and hope for a subjective decision based on our own objectivity

what is the criteria for objectivity?

Judges, police officers, and judges at dog shows have written laws and rules to uphold, we as citizens don't really have a law book, on which to objectively base our opinions. I suppose Christians should think about loving one's neighbor as oneself and imagining what life is like as a minority. I think white people might feel oppressed if we were the minority. I liked Alan Paton's Cry the Beloved Country about apartheid in South Africa and how the whites were in the minority and fearful. I read it in high school and it made me rethink some of the things I had been taught about race.

I think it must be on some level, a frightening thing to be in the minority- alienating.

 

[Willie-T]

I don't know how many people you hired. Let's say it was 2,000. You still did not hire every black person in the country. Nor did you have much respect for your employees. You said you put every black person on a wheel barrow. I am sure it was noised about that Mr. Willie did not respect black people and gave them menial jobs, which doesn't really inspire morale and a strong work ethic. Your attitude here was probably apparent to the employees then.

No, read it again. I said I put every Black on a wheel barrow that was dumped upon me by management because those Black people used coercive persuasion to force our HR to hire them. I had, months before, quit hiring Black applicants who walked through my office door.

BTW, the good Black employees I did have were among my highest paid, and two even ran a crew of white people.

 

[Galatea]

No, read it again. I said I put every Black on a wheel barrow that was dumped upon me by management because those Black people used coercive persuasion to force our HR to hire them. I had, months before, quit hiring Black applicants who walked through my office door.

BTW, the good Black employees I did have were among my highest paid, and two even ran a crew of white people.

Did you stop hiring black people simply because they were black?

 

[Laish]

I'm reading your comments in this thread, and I agree with you. The players are exercising their right to express their opinions and this is about as peaceful a protest one could possibly witness. This is not a totalitarian government, and no one should be forced to stand for the anthem or pledge. This is what our soldiers died for, the right to NOT stand, the right NOT to be compelled. Thank you for your articulate posts.

ok I thought this was interesting.The players usually did not come out of the locker room until after the anthem was played .Then in 2009 using our tax dollars the US government paired the NFL to have the players come out and stand for the anthem.It is in the players contracts that they stand at our expense.
here is a excerpt from a espn article.

. NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy confirmed this morning the practice began in 2009, adding, 'As you know, the NFL has a long tradition of patriotism. Players are encouraged but not required to stand for the anthem.'Add in the fact that the NFL received millions of taxpayer dollars from the Department of Defense and the National Guard for patriotic displays, and it puts the entire Kaepernick hullabaloo in a different light. "Fans should have confidence that their hometown heroes are being honored because of their honorable military service, not as a marketing ploy," Senator John McCain, the Vietnam War veteran and P.O.W., saidin a statement last year coinciding with "Tackling Paid Patriotism," a joint oversight report released by McCain and his fellow Arizona Republican Senator John Flake.

So true not forced but they are paied to have players stand . Their is more but this gives gist of it they are talking money for a service they are not doing.This puts a whole new light on it . Stranger and stranger
Blessings
Bill

 

[Oncefallen]

p.s.And lets not forget its the NFL where they are known to beat wives and gfs, sleep with groupies,have kids out of wedlock,take drugs and drunk drive. Hardly paragons of virtue.

I read an article earlier today that had this link

NFL Arrest - Football Arrest Record Database & Statistics

It's pretty sad that (on average) an NFL player is arrested once a week. The longest stretch without an arrest in 17 years was two months.

 

[Willie-T]

Did you stop hiring black people simply because they were black?

Why did I say in that earlier post, that I stopped even entertaining the idea of hiring black people?

 

[joefizz]

I'm seeing you in a very different light, Galatia. And it throws a bit of a prejudiced shadow.

Well she is supposedly a mermaid,so she is a bit "different" but nah still the same old Galatea.

 

[Bladerunner]

Voicing one's opinion or protesting in any fashion is never convenient or appreciated because people feel somehow inconvenienced. "not the right time or place". There will never be an appropriate venue or time when the standard is based on the premise of time and place.

One person raised a valid point if Politics doesn't belong in sports then why do we inject it by singing the national anthem, having veterans appreciation day, moral clauses in contracts or Politicians interfering in the business of the game?

Hurt I am not as NONE of the stereotypes posted here describe me or anyone connected to me. Neither does it describe anyone that I know. Not all black neighborhoods are full of crime and all things evil under the sun. Some of you act like we are the worst thing walking.

My father and uncles fought in a war for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness only to be considered the "N" word when the came back home and not enjoy the very freedoms that they fought for. Where was their respect? I have family in the military now. None of whom have ever been arrested or in trouble.

I took a sick friend to the Emergency Room and the lady behind the desk said, "May I have your STATE CARD?" She just assumed that she was receiving state assistance of which she is not.

There are bad people who make poor choices and decisions in all races but some of you seem to get great joy in pointing out what black people do and how you all are so superior since I have been coming here. For every poll posted I can find a poll saying the opposite.

I can refute several comments in this thread but there is no need, it will fall on deaf ears. Patriotism isn't about making everyone stand and salute the flag, it's about making this a country where everyone WANTS TO.

Someone repped me a few times. Thank you whoever you are.





At least Willie was honest enough to admit where he stands and from many of the comments there are a few more in here whether you choose to admit it or not who are prejudiced. I'm so glad that my experiences with people haven't hardened my heart towards any paticular race where I look down on them.

This place has gotten worse with it's comments and the gang mentality. You can have it.

This country is split down the middle and the tensions are getting worse by the day. God is no longer wanted in many sections of the land. Progressivism (liberalism) in most cases is at the very best socialistic which is one step away from communism. It has become a me, me, me, society.

The political support for Israel is at best, [if it will get me re-elected, I'll vote for it].

As prophesied; the Bible only speaks of the US (as Tarsish young lions) who are only asking Gog (Russia in the Gog/Magog war to come), what their intentions are. Yes, the US is breaking up and will continue to do so, for without GOD neither Man or any Country can have anything that will last forever.

How can GOD Bless any country when so many of their people simply don't want GOD!



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[Galatea]

ok I thought this was interesting.The players usually did not come out of the locker room until after the anthem was played .Then in 2009 using our tax dollars the US government paired the NFL to have the players come out and stand for the anthem.It is in the players contracts that they stand at our expense.
here is a excerpt from a espn article.

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So true not forced but they are paied to have players stand . Their is more but this gives gist of it they are talking money for a service they are not doing.puta a whole new light on it .
Blessings
Bill

I had heard something to the effect, is it in the players’ contracts that they must stand, or are they just “encouraged” by the NFL bosses getting this kickback? Why does the military pay for this? Very strange- paid patriotism. I’m more aggravated that the government thinks it is a good idea to pay for patriotism than the players not complying. Heck, I’d support them to refuse to stand to protest getting PAID to stand.

 

[Galatea]

Why did I say in that earlier post, that I stopped even entertaining the idea of hiring black people?

That is what it seemed like you said, I wanted to ask to see if that was the case.

 

[Willie-T]

My wife just said it would be very possible that when Trump gets wind of this, he just may pull those funds.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Galatea;3288416

Judges, police officers, and judges at dog shows have written laws and rules to uphold,


FULL STOP. do all judges uphold the law today or do they try to make laws on the fly? ps..watch the news for the answer to this one

are police officers making objective decisions or they making decisons in the moment based on the criteria they are presented with in any given situation" ... ps watch the news for the answer to this one

LOL on the dog show judges. as a one time breeder and exhibitor, let me tell you...it ain't objective.

we as citizens don't really have a law book, on which to objectively base our opinions.

SAY WHAT? (said in that high pitched squeaky voice we have come to associate with incredulity in sitcoms) we sure do know when we break any law. we sure do know right from wrong. we don't need a book...but we do need enforcers...enter the police.

I suppose Christians should think about loving one's neighbor as oneself and imagining what life is like as a minority.

WHY? wouldn't following Jesus simply take care of all of that to begin with. wait...Christians ARE a minority! there yah go

I think white people might feel oppressed if we were the minority.

WHITE PEOPLE ARE A MINORITY. google it and start reading

I liked Alan Paton's Cry the Beloved Country about apartheid in South Africa and how the whites were in the minority and fearful. I read it in high school and it made me rethink some of the things I had been taught about race.

NOW READ ABOUT SOUTH AFRICA AND RHODESIA BACK IN THE DAY BEFORE THEY DISINTEGRATED. you SHOULD be fearful if you are white OR black in Africa. do you know anything about the history of Africa? did you know that Africans sold other Africans into slavery? do you understand the ongoing genocide of black against black in Africa? your fanciful response is a literary lack of history


I think it must be on some level, a frightening thing to be in the minority- alienating.

pinch yourself. you are dreaming. LOL!