Hey, you are one of them who wants people to name names,, even though this is not our authority as yet.
Show me one example, now. You hav none.
Show me one example, now. You hav none.
When anyone says we cannot obey the commandments, which is true, and uses this as an excuse to teach against obedience you have someone painfully mistaken.
You have such in this particular thread and this is hyper-grace and not grace with responsibility. Donot change things around, what I post here is true.
You have such in this particular thread and this is hyper-grace and not grace with responsibility. Donot change things around, what I post here is true.
Your first quote says you are one of them who wants to name even though this not our authority and show me one example, you have none.
Then it seems to me that you are saying EG is saying using the fact the fact that we can’t cannot obey the commadments (whic you agree with) then EG is using this as an excuse to not be obedient.
Then you say “You have such in this thread and this is HG”
So it seems to me that you have taken authority and by inference you are naming EG as a Hyper-Gracer.
That EG is saying “We can’t obey the commandments, therefore let’s use it as license to sin.
I cant say I have ever seen him say that. Have you?
I have to say given my looking into HG, I can’t see that they say that grace is an excuse to sin, be disobedient.
In fact one of the major opponents doesn’t have a problem with message of grace at all, his issue is forgiveness of present sins
but not for salvation.
Simply stated, there is not a single verse anywhere in the Bible that pronounces us already forgiven for our future sins (meaning, sins we have not yet committed). Not one verse. Nowhere. Not even a hint of such a concept.”
― Michael L. Brown, Hyper-Grace: Exposing the Dangers of the Modern Grace Message
It’s clear that our present sins need present forgiveness, not for the purpose of salvation but as part of our relationship with the Father.”
― Michael L. Brown, Hyper-Grace: Exposing the Dangers of the Modern Grace Message
In your post 149 you say “Everyone who wants to prove that Jesus is the sabbath and throws out one of the 10 commandments.
What commandment is being thrown out?
What obedience and to what are we being called to obedient to?