Australians back same-sex marriage at polls; Parliament plans December vote
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But you are not standing on the word of God! God's word says it is wrong. You yourself are a Christian I hope and pray. While your statement is true, you took yourself out of the equation to avoid standing on the Word? Then you point the finger at the Christians who are taking a stand against that kind of wickedness! It's not about ideals and "theocracy" as you put it, it's about who's standing for the Word of the Living God!
That doesn't mean I'm supposed to force someone else to live according to biblical standards. No where in the Bible are we instructed to do so. Some people are going to follow the Bible and some people aren't. That's their choice. Pearls to swine.
The problem is that most Christians think only Christians are supposed to have constitutional rights
The problem is that most Christians think only Christians are supposed to have constitutional rights
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Do you believe The Bible is the literal Word of God? Or do you believe that it was written by "men" (*say that in a feminist voice)?
Do you believe the OT is accurate, or do you only believe in Christ's 4 main gospels and some of content in the remaining NT?
I'm trying to figure out why national pride/integrity is even entering the equation of spiritual and faith issues.
Do you believe the OT is accurate, or do you only believe in Christ's 4 main gospels and some of content in the remaining NT?
I'm trying to figure out why national pride/integrity is even entering the equation of spiritual and faith issues.
We are not subject to Old Testament laws as per the New Testament. I find it frustrating that everyone is deliberately missing my point. Just because I live according to biblical standards doesn't mean everyone else is and I'm not going to try to force them to do so. Everyone has constitutional rights. Not just Christians
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We want to encourage the proper way of life for everyone so the society benefits. Christians know we have The Truth and we want to model the society after it, because we know it's for the unbelievers own good and our own good if they are encouraged to follow it. The Bible is Perfect and the constitution is a flawed worldly document.
Encouraging sin and allow it to defile marriage is against the best interest of everyone. DON'T BRING UP THE DEATH PENALTY, we don't put gluttons to death, we teach it is unhealthy in school and discourage it socially. We want to do the same with homosexuality because we have the Word of God and want to apply this truth to society.
At no point should the constitution or "freedom" justify letting all hell break loose and let anyone do anything as long as it doesn't hurt others and consent occurs. You know The Truth and are not reacting properly. If we outnumbered the liberals we would ban gay marriage, unfortunately we are unable to do so at the moment. You don't see an issue with gay marriage even though it runs contrary to The Truth you subscribe to.
You need to understand it's ok to infringe on constitutional rights to do the will of God. The Bible takes precedence over our national origin and legal documents. DON'T SAY DEATH PENALTY, no one has suggested that, OT practice of law doesn't apply, but the principles that inspired the laws still do and we should develop the society around those principles.
The death penalty isn't ok, and neither is allowing gay marriage or teaching that it is natural and not a sin. We aren't arguing for the death penalty, we are arguing with you because you support "constitutional rights" to encourage homosexuality and gay marriage, and you encourage it by not being against it.
You are the problem, if your group had an opinion and wanted to model the society after Christian values, we would have a society modeled after Christian values, but you do not want this. You do not see that your position is wrong and causing the symptoms we are seeing. You passively support sin by not being opposed to it. You have allowed us to become outnumbered.
Encouraging sin and allow it to defile marriage is against the best interest of everyone. DON'T BRING UP THE DEATH PENALTY, we don't put gluttons to death, we teach it is unhealthy in school and discourage it socially. We want to do the same with homosexuality because we have the Word of God and want to apply this truth to society.
At no point should the constitution or "freedom" justify letting all hell break loose and let anyone do anything as long as it doesn't hurt others and consent occurs. You know The Truth and are not reacting properly. If we outnumbered the liberals we would ban gay marriage, unfortunately we are unable to do so at the moment. You don't see an issue with gay marriage even though it runs contrary to The Truth you subscribe to.
You need to understand it's ok to infringe on constitutional rights to do the will of God. The Bible takes precedence over our national origin and legal documents. DON'T SAY DEATH PENALTY, no one has suggested that, OT practice of law doesn't apply, but the principles that inspired the laws still do and we should develop the society around those principles.
The death penalty isn't ok, and neither is allowing gay marriage or teaching that it is natural and not a sin. We aren't arguing for the death penalty, we are arguing with you because you support "constitutional rights" to encourage homosexuality and gay marriage, and you encourage it by not being against it.
You are the problem, if your group had an opinion and wanted to model the society after Christian values, we would have a society modeled after Christian values, but you do not want this. You do not see that your position is wrong and causing the symptoms we are seeing. You passively support sin by not being opposed to it. You have allowed us to become outnumbered.
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I actually support the death penalty. It should be extended to rapist and child molesters.
If it's someone who has harmed a child then I would pull the switch myself.
Banning same-sex marriage is unconstitutional. Every other argument is irrelevant.
Passing laws based on religion is also unconstitutional.
I will never support undermining the constitution on religious principles
If it's someone who has harmed a child then I would pull the switch myself.
Banning same-sex marriage is unconstitutional. Every other argument is irrelevant.
Passing laws based on religion is also unconstitutional.
I will never support undermining the constitution on religious principles
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Undermining God, morality, and what is sacred is the most slippy slope.
Do not equate promoting false religions with promoting The Truth. Do you understand what The Truth is? A Good Thing.
You have more faith in the constitution than in God to rule on these matters. This is a faith issue you have.
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You keep bringing up the constitution, but consider this, man perverts EVERYTHING he puts his hands on, or signs or decrees, because we are of a sinful nature. Yes the constitution is important, but what is more important, standing on the constitution which is material and temporary, or standing on the Word of God, which is eternal, which by the way, you will have to give an answer as to why you didn't stand or preach on the Word of God
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Are you congress? You can respect, prohibit, and protect what you want. That should be based on your faith.
The people make the laws, our collective opinions, beliefs, and values determine them. People like you do not support Christianity, so neither do our laws.
Stop regurgitating constitutional rhetoric to me.
The people make the laws, our collective opinions, beliefs, and values determine them. People like you do not support Christianity, so neither do our laws.
Stop regurgitating constitutional rhetoric to me.
But you're making it sound like this baker forced his beliefs on this gay couple, when on the contrary he didn't. If anything, the gay couple was trying to force THEMSELVES upon him. And you're right, not everyone will follow, and if they don't, then they will be following Baal. But our duty as Christians is to preach the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to them, plant the seed and encourage them, those that are lost, and EVEN our brethren in Christ.
So if the Constitution is just rhetorical then let's just scrap the whole Constitution. Let's hear this same argument when they come for your guns. What happens when we get a Muslim or an Atheist president who wants to start passing laws against Christianity. According to your argument this would be allowed