Joyce Meyer

[oldethennew]

Psst a little hint for you. Paul was writing under the hand of the Holy Spirit. Paul was not just dashing off a fund raising letter to his peeps.

You're circling the drain.

Mt 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.


For the cause of Christ
Roger

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this is absolutely TRUE, Paul was NOT calling his 'own letters scriptures',
they were addressed to specific 'churches for specific reasons';
Paul did not set-out to 'establish-new-beliefs' - he constantly quoted,
'the Law, the Prophets-and the Writings'...and he states Himself,
'that he believe 'everything written, 'in the Law and the Prophets'...

do we, hub and myself, believe that his 'writings are scripture'???
Yes, we certainly do, because he was OBVIOULSY INSPIRED by the Holy Spirit,
and the 'road to Damascus' put him in his place...

 

[Bladerunner]

Seeing we have so many opinions and not facts about Joyce and her Money, lets let her audited financial record speak for itself.

PS: you know you can download this off her website for yourselves.



http://annualreport.joycemeyer.org/downloads/Joyce_Meyer_Annual_Report_2016_Financials.pdf


Annual Report 2016 | Joyce Meyer Ministries

what does her financials have to do with what she preaches,,,,Nothing

 

[Bladerunner]

here is what she did last year what did you do?


Annual Report 2016 | Joyce Meyer Ministries

I sure did not teach "SELF LOVE", "SELF ESTEEM", "PRIDE" for fact

 

[Bladerunner]

What 2Tm 3:16 says:
"All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness."

What some Christians read:
"Every word in my printed Bible is directly from God, its needed for everything and its containing everything."

For once you got it right... all words of scripture are from Jesus or God our father.

 

[Bladerunner]

Please turn to the 5th book of the Bible, (that's in the OT), and see what is written in the 4th verse of Chapter 25.

Deu 25:5
If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.

Is this the one....It is hard to keep up with you two.

 

[Bladerunner]

willie trying hard to discredit the bible but failing hard:

how does that feel. 1 corinthians 14:37 still unaddressed and will continue to be so.
the brother Mercy4u brought a good point also

It is one of those that get skipped over and ignored

 

[Willie-T]

Deu 25:5
If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.

Is this the one....It is hard to keep up with you two.

Yep, now it's getting clearer why you know so little about the Bible... can't even find a verse when it is spelled out for you.

 

[Bladerunner]

It isn't about seeing the association. That is pretty obvious.
It is a direct quote from scripture. And Paul used what Luke recorded.


Yes and Luke recorded Jesus Christ as saying," And the laborer is worthy of His wages."

Paul used the quote from Luke and called it scripture.

Gentlemen,,there is a third choice....Jesus told both authors what to write. Since was the one to "coin the Phrase", He can repeat it when He deems necessary. This would solve the problem that both look the same.

Yoiu two are using the same argument for the similarity of the Gospels.

 

[Bladerunner]

Paul said the scripture says," The laborer is worthy of His wages."

Luke wrote, in the scriptures," The laborer is worthy of his wages."

Paul quoted Luke and called it scripture.

I don't think so.

 

[Mercy4u]

Gentlemen,,there is a third choice....Jesus told both authors what to write. Since was the one to "coin the Phrase", He can repeat it when He deems necessary. This would solve the problem that both look the same.

Yoiu two are using the same argument for the similarity of the Gospels.

No.

Paul said SCRIPTURE SAYS.

And Paul quoted Luke and what he was inspired to WRITE.

It is QUOTE from scripture. A QUOTE from Luke.

Please show us another scripture that QUOTES," for the laborer is worthy of his wages."

Luke is the only one. And Paul calls it scripture.

 

[Speak2Me]

 

[Speak2Me]

 

[Bladerunner]

She does so much for the lost world...Building schools, feeding the hungry, clothing the poor, building wells for fresh water in parts of the world where many young children have to travel sometimes 6 hours just to get a bucket load of rotten water...She has many buildings where women and children are being rescued from sex trafficking, has school buses running, and her ministry preaches Jesus to the remote parts of the world...

She always gives the credit to God, and Jesus is her saviour, and she shares the gospel with a bible in front of her and Scripture is always on the screen...God looks at our heart, not the outward appearance, I was certainly blessed by God when He healed me from deep pain that only a women could understand from sexual abuse, and it was her that God drew me to, I never went looking for her, God put her on my path...xox...

Did you not understand that She is Preaching "SELF-LOVE, SELF-ESTEEM and PRIDE" three items, GOD warned us to steer away from.Every False PReacher is going to give credit to God and Jesus.

 

[Mercy4u]

I don't think so.

Hard to argue with scripture(notice the quotation marks):

1 Tim 5:18
New American Standard Bible
For the Scripture says, "you shall not muzzle the ox while he is threshing," and "The laborer is worthy of his wages."

Luke 10:7
New American Standard Bible
"Stay in that house, eating and drinking what they give you; for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not keep moving from house to house.

 

[followjesus]

yes, thats been kinda my point all along. i like what Paul teaches, its all truth, it all can be used for teaching, why not leave it at that, why go all extreme and start saying Paul is equal to Jesus, it just makes no sense to me.

yes i just wanted to support what you were saying there. paul teaches the same thing Jesus teaches. that Jesus is the head over everything, that Jesus is exalted abive the heights of Heaven, that Jesus is seated beside God, made Lord and Christ. definately agreed with you good stuff

 

[Speak2Me]

Quoted from Dr. Who? – Televangelists With Fake Educations and Degrees | | Dust Off The Bible

“DR.” JOYCE MEYER

Joyce Meyer has a few good things to say, but that does not mean she gets a pass. Any time you fake an education and then try to convince people that you have credentials it’s going to point it out. Sorry Joyce, you’re on the chopping block.

DOCUMENTED EDUCATION

• “Earned PhD in Theology,” from Life Christian University. (Source)
  • LCU is an unaccredited school, by choice. (Source)
  • Notable Alumni (Benny Hynn, Ken and Gloria Copeland, and some lesser known preachers).
  • To be very clear, not being accredited does not mean your school is “bad.” However, LCU is widely known as a diploma mill. Meaning they have no standards for education.
  • They also give PhD level degrees to people with NO prior education.
• Honorary doctorate in divinity from Oral Roberts University. (Source)
• Honorary doctorate in sacred theology from Grand Canyon University. (Source)
• It should be noted that somehow Joyce Meyer was able to “earn” a PhD having no undergraduate or graduate degrees to her name. Not only is this unfathomable but the education she did do is straight up deceitful! Why would any legitimate preacher need to fake doctorate? Obviously to fool people into thinking they are actually educated.

 

[Bladerunner]

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this is absolutely TRUE, Paul was NOT calling his 'own letters scriptures',
they were addressed to specific 'churches for specific reasons';
Paul did not set-out to 'establish-new-beliefs' - he constantly quoted,
'the Law, the Prophets-and the Writings'...and he states Himself,
'that he believe 'everything written, 'in the Law and the Prophets'...

do we, hub and myself, believe that his 'writings are scripture'???
Yes, we certainly do, because he was OBVIOULSY INSPIRED by the Holy Spirit,
and the 'road to Damascus' put him in his place...

By what you said, you redefined the word "scriptures". In my opinion every word of the Bible is a part of the scripture (verses) that contain the WORDS of GOD. If it happens to be in a letter, ok but it is still scripture or verses that GOD WROTE or INSPIRed to be written.

 

[followjesus]

yes, thats been kinda my point all along. i like what Paul teaches, its all truth, it all can be used for teaching, why not leave it at that, why go all extreme and start saying Paul is equal to Jesus, it just makes no sense to me.

why go all extreme and start saying Paul is equal to Jesus, it just makes no sense to me."


because if you can convince people that what Jesus said, doesnt apply to you, that only paul applies to you, then you can remove the truth much easier because what paul preaches is all based upon what Jesus taught in the Gospel. you probably can discern where the motivation originates only one force is going to be so set on dethroning the King because His doctrine rewuires of you.


its all about false doctrine, its been satans only weapon since time began, to make a good false doctrine, i have a necessaty to convince you that what Jesus taught in the Gospel isnt really the gospel. instead of that....listen to me. its just a pattern expanded from the first false doctrine in eden. theres more scripture now, so its much easier to distort what it says. but if one sticks with Jesus teaching about things, deception has no lifeline. fallacy rewuires the trtuh to be distorted or removed.

ultimately if i want to sell a new book to you for 29.95 i cant just share whats in the word of God, its free to people, to make money i have to tell you, the " secret" to really knowing thats different from whats simply written, some folks scoff at false doctrine, but its truly the source of sin and death

 

[oldethennew]

what does her financials have to do with what she preaches,,,,Nothing

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her financials have absolutely 'everything' to do with what she preaches...as do all of the 'other'
so called 'new-age-preachers'...

can you even imagine in whatever place your head is residing, because of what you have 'bought into'
her/their schtick' that you can 'love your neighbor' and not take care of their immediate needs?,
all the while living way beyond your own needs to the point that you knowingly know that most of
your congregation are 'poor and in need of such simple things such as money to pay their
electric bill??? may God forgive them and have mercy, for they shall surely reap what they sow...

living in carnal oppulence??? while those who you are 'begging from are poor and in great need???
actually begging the widows and the poor to 'support you'!!!

ask yourself in all honesty, is this a Godly thing, and is this what JESUS expects of those who
claim to be His representatives??? God forbid...

 

[Dude653]

You are absolutely correct there, Dude.

Also when Paul wrote these letters he was specifically addressing the churches of Corinth and Ephesus.