Why Satan tempt Jesus?
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Satan assumed that because Jesus was fully Man, that He could be tempted like other men. He failed to understand that Jesus was the God-Man, and He controlled Satan, not the reverse. Had it been possible for Jesus to sin, He could not have become the Savior of the world. Our rdemption required the sinless Lamb of God to take away the sin of the world.
You failed to highlight the key phrase -- YET WITHOUT SIN. What exactly does that mean? The God-Man Christ Jesus did NOT have the Adamic sin nature -- "the flesh" -- within Himself. Thus "without sin". As a result there was nothing within Christ to respond to the temptations. The temptations were very real, but they rolled off Jesus, who used Scripture to destroy the Devil's illusions. However, Satan only left Christ for a season, and resumed his attacks through the religious leaders of the day. He even caused Peter to rebuke Christ for prophesying about His sufferings and His death.
Of course Christ was "tempted" in that real temptations were presented to Him externally. What you failed to understand is that there was nothing within Christ to respond to those temptation, so it was not internal (no lusts within Christ). And that is why Scripture says "WITHOUT SIN". No sin nature, no response to temptation.
On the other hand, all human beings -- including Christians -- have the indwelling "flesh". And that is what causes men to succumb to temptations. So notice how it works (James 1:13-15):
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
On the other hand, all human beings -- including Christians -- have the indwelling "flesh". And that is what causes men to succumb to temptations. So notice how it works (James 1:13-15):
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Jesus did not destroy Satan during this time period because of the power of his divinity. He did so because he was anointed with power and the Holy Spirit and armed with the word. This is model for how we destroy the works of the devil ourselves, not an excuse to put Jesus on a perfection pedestal and claim his divinity makes him untouchable. It is also to show us that we must be refined for ministry.
Notice some key words I put in bold in the account in Luke 4:
Luke 4:1
Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led around by the Spirit in the wilderness
Luke 4:14
And Jesus returned to Galilee in the power of the Spirit, and news about Him spread through all the surrounding district.
The next time Jesus and Satan meet face to face was at the rock of Agony in the Garden and when Jesus was looking down on him from the cross. Satan had to be at the cross for The prophecy to be fulfilled that Jesus bruised his head, because Satan did in fact crush his heel. The spikes were put through the heel of the feet back then and not in the instep. The instep is bone and had a spike been used there with the feet overlapped then the prophecy that he keeps all his bones would have been a false prophecy and not fulfilled.
Notice some key words I put in bold in the account in Luke 4:
Luke 4:1
Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led around by the Spirit in the wilderness
Luke 4:14
And Jesus returned to Galilee in the power of the Spirit, and news about Him spread through all the surrounding district.
The next time Jesus and Satan meet face to face was at the rock of Agony in the Garden and when Jesus was looking down on him from the cross. Satan had to be at the cross for The prophecy to be fulfilled that Jesus bruised his head, because Satan did in fact crush his heel. The spikes were put through the heel of the feet back then and not in the instep. The instep is bone and had a spike been used there with the feet overlapped then the prophecy that he keeps all his bones would have been a false prophecy and not fulfilled.
This is off the reservation completely. You are pushing that Jesus was fully in his divinity when he walked the earth and that is not remotely true.
Hebrews 4:14-15
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. [SUP]15 [/SUP]For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin.
Isaiah 53:2-5
Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,
And like a root out of parched ground;
He has no stately form or majesty
That we should look upon Him,
Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]He was despised and forsaken of men,
A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;
And like one from whom men hide their face
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. [SUP]4 [/SUP]Surely our griefs He Himself bore,
And our sorrows He carried;
Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.
Phil 2:5-8
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, [SUP]6 [/SUP]who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, [SUP]7 [/SUP]but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
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ummmmm....
how do we explain this:
For we do not have a High Priest who cannot be touched with the feelings of our infirmities, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Hebrews 4:15
I mean if I had no 'feelings' I could dismiss all temptation as well without a 2nd thought
oops. did I just give myself away?
(Friday. always calls for a little humor)
how do we explain this:
For we do not have a High Priest who cannot be touched with the feelings of our infirmities, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Hebrews 4:15
I mean if I had no 'feelings' I could dismiss all temptation as well without a 2nd thought
oops. did I just give myself away?
(Friday. always calls for a little humor)
Well we do not have to speculate. The Bible says that God walked on this earth in a human body. And if that were not true, there could have been no redemption, since it was God's blood which purchased the Church.
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God [Theos] was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. (1 Timothy 3:16, found accurately and faithfully translated in only the KJB, Webster's Bible Translation, World English Bible, and Young's literal translation).
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. (Acts 20:28).
So rather than being "off the reservation" this is solid Bible truth. Jesus of Nazareth -- from His supernatural conception -- was always fully God and fully sinless Man at one and the same time. This is the Mystery of God.
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God [Theos] was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. (1 Timothy 3:16, found accurately and faithfully translated in only the KJB, Webster's Bible Translation, World English Bible, and Young's literal translation).
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. (Acts 20:28).
So rather than being "off the reservation" this is solid Bible truth. Jesus of Nazareth -- from His supernatural conception -- was always fully God and fully sinless Man at one and the same time. This is the Mystery of God.
You are conflating here and telling everyone Jesus only did miracles and defeated the devil through his divinity and scripture proves this to be wrong. Acts 10:38 tell us Jesus was anointed with power and the Holy Ghost, Not one miracle or fight with the devil was a result from his divinity or God powers.
Again, you are simply trying to ignore what is clearly stated in the Bible and projecting your own concept as to whose power was manifested in and through Christ. Did Jesus not say that He would raise Himself from the dead? And does not Scripture also say that God the Father and God the Holy Spirit were involved with His resurrection (Q) and does that not mean that Christ -- as God -- was also working miracles, while the Father and the Holy Spirit were also involved (Q).
But to refute your misconception that Christ did not do miracles as God, let us look at the Scripture which specifically says that He did.
King James Bible (Luke 11:20)
But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.
Did you get that (Q) Jesus says that His finger is God s finger, and He is casting out devils (demons) as God. It is also His finger which carved out the Ten Commandments on two tablets of stone.
The biggest mistake which Christians can make is to try and *figure out* the nature of Christ as the God-Man. It is by faith that we believe He is fully God and fully sinless Man.
But to refute your misconception that Christ did not do miracles as God, let us look at the Scripture which specifically says that He did.
King James Bible (Luke 11:20)
But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.
Did you get that (Q) Jesus says that His finger is God s finger, and He is casting out devils (demons) as God. It is also His finger which carved out the Ten Commandments on two tablets of stone.
The biggest mistake which Christians can make is to try and *figure out* the nature of Christ as the God-Man. It is by faith that we believe He is fully God and fully sinless Man.
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what happened to the human part of His conception?
if Jesus was not at all human, why have Him born as a baby? seems totally unnecessary to go through all of that
I have honestly never read or heard before that Jesus was not at all human
I believe the doctrine regarding this to be fully God and fully human
The early church considered the Incarnation to be one of the most important truths of our faith. Because of this, they formulated what has come to be called the Chalcedonean Creed, a statement which sets forth what we are to believe and what we are not to believe about the Incarnation. This creed was the fruit of a large council that took place from October 8 to November 1, 451, in the city of Chalcedon and “has been taken as the standard, orthodox definition of the biblical teaching on the person of Christ since that day by” all the major branches of Christianity.2 There are five main truths with which the creed of Chalcedon summarized the biblical teaching on the Incarnation:
HERE'S ANOTHER:
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[TR]
[TD]GOD[/TD]
[TD]MAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2, 11; 14:33)[/TD]
[TD]He worshiped the Father (John 17)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8)[/TD]
[TD]He was called man (Mark 15:39; John 19:5)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1)[/TD]
[TD]He was called Son of Man (John 9:35-37)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]He is prayed to (Acts 7:59)[/TD]
[TD]He prayed to the Father (John 17)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15)[/TD]
[TD]He was tempted (Matt. 4:1)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]He knows all things (John 21:17)[/TD]
[TD]He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]He gives eternal life (John 10:28)[/TD]
[TD]He died (Rom. 5:8)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]All the fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9)[/TD]
[TD]He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
For a proper understanding of Jesus and, therefore, all other doctrines that relate to Him, His two natures must be properly understood and defined. Jesus is one person with two natures. This is why He would grow in wisdom and stature (Luke 2:52) and yet know all things (John 21:17). He is the Divine Word that became flesh (John 1:1, 14).
what happened to the human part of His conception?
if Jesus was not at all human, why have Him born as a baby? seems totally unnecessary to go through all of that
I have honestly never read or heard before that Jesus was not at all human
I believe the doctrine regarding this to be fully God and fully human
The early church considered the Incarnation to be one of the most important truths of our faith. Because of this, they formulated what has come to be called the Chalcedonean Creed, a statement which sets forth what we are to believe and what we are not to believe about the Incarnation. This creed was the fruit of a large council that took place from October 8 to November 1, 451, in the city of Chalcedon and “has been taken as the standard, orthodox definition of the biblical teaching on the person of Christ since that day by” all the major branches of Christianity.2 There are five main truths with which the creed of Chalcedon summarized the biblical teaching on the Incarnation:
1. Jesus has two natures — He is God and man.
2. Each nature is full and complete — He is fully God and fully man.
3. Each nature remains distinct.
4. Christ is only one Person.
5. Things that are true of only one nature are nonetheless true of the Person of Christ.
SOURCE (just one among thousands)2. Each nature is full and complete — He is fully God and fully man.
3. Each nature remains distinct.
4. Christ is only one Person.
5. Things that are true of only one nature are nonetheless true of the Person of Christ.
HERE'S ANOTHER:
[TABLE="class: carm-table-with-border center, width: 650"]
[TR]
[TD]GOD[/TD]
[TD]MAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2, 11; 14:33)[/TD]
[TD]He worshiped the Father (John 17)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8)[/TD]
[TD]He was called man (Mark 15:39; John 19:5)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1)[/TD]
[TD]He was called Son of Man (John 9:35-37)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]He is prayed to (Acts 7:59)[/TD]
[TD]He prayed to the Father (John 17)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15)[/TD]
[TD]He was tempted (Matt. 4:1)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]He knows all things (John 21:17)[/TD]
[TD]He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]He gives eternal life (John 10:28)[/TD]
[TD]He died (Rom. 5:8)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]All the fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9)[/TD]
[TD]He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
For a proper understanding of Jesus and, therefore, all other doctrines that relate to Him, His two natures must be properly understood and defined. Jesus is one person with two natures. This is why He would grow in wisdom and stature (Luke 2:52) and yet know all things (John 21:17). He is the Divine Word that became flesh (John 1:1, 14).
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It shows us what Christ expected us to do and be aware of . The controversy in the world is between Christ and Satan ........ Its sad to hear people then say that Satan is of no consequence to the plan of God ...
It shows us Satan's modus operandi .. He knew scriptures. Yet Christ shows us Satan twisted the scriptures. Christ replied "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. ". Many Christians today dont even recognize how Satan changed the meaning of the verse he quoted......
Christ was not removed from the temptation. But having the gospel armor on, A Christian stands against the fiery darts of Satan.
It shows us Satan's modus operandi .. He knew scriptures. Yet Christ shows us Satan twisted the scriptures. Christ replied "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. ". Many Christians today dont even recognize how Satan changed the meaning of the verse he quoted......
Christ was not removed from the temptation. But having the gospel armor on, A Christian stands against the fiery darts of Satan.
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How do Satan tempt Jesus? and How do Jesus handles this temptation? Based on following logic, would temptation are effective only where emotion is present? If Jesus cannot be tempted, because Jesus has no emotion, which implies that emotion is SIN. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, to everyone very much for any suggestions (^v^) "Insults are effective only where emotion is present." by Spock http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i438/junk000/Spock_zpscggo1dwg.png