GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

LoveGodForever · Dec 18, 2017

Hello my friend

Comments in BLUE for you below. There is no problem with the "It is written" it is just not written according to your interpretation as you are trying to apply the scriptures against God's Law and lets see why......

posthuman said:

is it written:

"each one must be fully convinced in his own mind to regard one day as more sacred than another"

Where in Romans 14 does it say this scripture is talking about the 4th commandment? For that matter where in the whole book of Romans is it talking about the 4th commandment?

Romans 14 is talking about fasting and the Old Covenant Holy days of Leviticus 23 that were shadows pointing to Jesus.

is it written:

"Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing THE WRONG special days and THE WRONG months and THE WRONG seasons and THE WRONG years! I fear for you, that my efforts for you may have been in vain.…"

Once again in reference to Leviticus 23 observed days, months seasons, years from the Mosaic laws for remission of sin that where shadows of things to come * Colossians 2:14-17.

is it written:

"For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under *most* of the Law, but under grace and the weekly sabbath but not the other sabbaths"

If you are still are still in your SINS then indeed you are still "UNDER the LAW" and stand guilty before GOD and need to seek God in repentance and forgiveness. If you break one of God's 10 commandments you are guilty before God or breaking all of them that is why it is written.....

James 2
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

Hope this helps..

LoveGodForever · Dec 18, 2017

posthuman said:

If you are still in your SINS my friend then death will be your sting indeed. If you by faith however BELIEVE God's WORD and your FAITH has the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE then you have been set free indeed from your SINS and free to LOVE and follow HIM who loves all (John 14:15)

If you do not have the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE through FAITH however your tree will be chopped down and cast into the fire with those that did NOT KNOW him who loved all.

LoveGodForever · Dec 18, 2017

posthuman said:

What do all the scriptures say that have been shared with you that you do not believe? What are the answers to the questions that have been asked of you there? Ignoring the posts and the scripture sent to you do not make them go away when you open your eyes they will still be there and bare witness against you because you have chosen not to BELIEVE God's WORD as it is written;

John 12
47, If any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48, He that rejects me, and receives not my words, hath one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW IT. Tomorrow may be too late.

LoveGodForever · Dec 18, 2017

valiant said:

Our opinions do not matter I cut and paste scripture because I can prove what I believe from God's Word you are only upset because you have nothing from God's word that to cut and paste that supports what you believe.

LoveGodForever · Dec 18, 2017

Hello valiant some comments for you in Blue.....

valiant said:

So He mentions it to recommend breaking it?

Not at all read the scriptures seems you haven't.

The ONLY verse which mentions the Sabbath is Mark 2.27 and that is where Jesus said it was made FOR MAN. Thus He felt able to modify it even for the Jews.

Really? Well that is NOT TRUE at all seems you did not read the scriptures that a right there in front of you.

So He claims authority to change the Sabbath.

Really? Where does he say he changed the Sabbath in God's Word?

Of course you cannot enter into His rest unless you come to Christ, just as they could not enter God's rest (Canaan).

There is no rest if you do not BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's Word my friend.

James is speaking of the wider commandments of God, not specifically of the ten. He does not mention the Sabbath, (YOU would have made it prominent)

Well that is not true at all James says what he is talking about. It is the 10 commandments. No need to guess.

It merely says that sin is anomia (lawlessness). No mention of the Sabbath. As always it is noticeably absent.

Now valiant are you only part quoting me in point 6 above why did you leave out all the other scriptures I posted? Sin is lawlessness. Lawlessness means to be without law. Sin is transgression of God's Law (10 commandments) its very clear. If your still confused please read the other scriptures you left out of the post you quoted above; James 2:11; Romans 7:7; Romans 3:20 and the context of 1 John 2:3-15

The Sabbath is not mentioned in Revelation. Ezekiel was written to JEWS. You have to bring it in, in order for it to be mentioned LOL

Really? It mentions who God's people are and they are those who keep all the commandments of God (Rev 12:17; 14:12:22:14) and of course you know Rev 1:10 when John was in the spirit on the Lord's Day and that Jesus says that the Lord's Day is the Sabbath day right? (Matthew 12:8) Is Matthew 12:8 another one of those scriptures you said do not exist from point 2 above?

Jesus while on earth was a JEW. He was bound by the covenant with ISRAEL.

Already shown through the scriptures if you are not grafted in and you are not a part of God's Israel you are not a part of the New Covenant. God's Word says that God's Israel are those that have BELIEVE the WORD of GOD and FOLLOW it. UNBELIEVERS have no part in God's Kingdom. Scriptures provided for those interested....

"Israel" is only a name given by God himself to represent his people. The origin of the name "Israel" come from Genesis 32:28 where Jacob wrestled with the Angel and prevailed ...for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. Its meaning is his posterity will rule as God. Jacob had 12 sons representing the 12 tribes of Israel.

Israel is only a name given by God that represents God's people and today anyone who is following Jesus is part of God's Israel according to God's Word.

What does God's Word say.....................................................................…

Let God be true and every man a liar that thou might be justified in thy sayings, and might overcome when thou art judged.

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He says not, and to seeds, as of many; but as of one, AND TO YOUR SEED, WHICH IS CHRIST (Galatians 3:16)

Abraham’s seed is Israel................................................

THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE (Galatians 3:28).

No explanation needed, believe God's Word, and again..........................

FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED (Romans 9:6).

FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (Romans 2:28-29)

Believe the scriptures......................................................................

Galatians 3:28-29,
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Colossians 3:11,
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Romans 10:11-13,
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Romans 2:28-29,
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

The New Covenant is for God's Israel..........................

Jeremiah 31:33-4,
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, says the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, says the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Hebrews 8:10-12,
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Hebrews 10:14-17,
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, this is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; and their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Galatians 3:29,
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise

The New Covenant is for God's Israel which represent God’s followers the believers. If you are not part of God's Israel you are not part of the New Covenant (Hebrews 8:10-12).

God's Israel are those that believe the Word of God and follow it and is why Jesus says If you love me keep my commandments (John 14:15)

This includes the 4th commandment which is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11). If we break one of God's commandments we stand guilty before God of breaking them all (James 2:8-12)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

You mean they made use of it to preach the Gospel to the Jews.

Romans 2:28-29,
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Exodus 20.8-11 is the only one that mentions the Sabbath

Yes it is the 4th commandment the same as the 5th commandment only mentions to Honor thy mother and father

Do you observe the Sabbath as a day of complete rest (Exod 20), or do you observe it as day for doing good (Mark 2.27-28)?. Both were spoken to the JEWS.

Romans 10:11-13,
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

It is God's Word to those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW him who loves all and we should OBEY him.

There is not one scripture in all God's word that says many things are abolished. We gather it from its (and their) NON-MENTION, and from the fact that no one is to judge us concerning new moons and Sabbaths,. Show me one injunction in the letters to the churches which suggest it is necessary to observe the Sabbath specifically. Surely there must be at least ONE?

What a shame to you valiant first you say no show me in the New Testament only then you are shown. Now after you are shown then you say no show me only in the letters? Even if I was to show you it would make no difference to you now would it? What a shame it will be on Judgement day for some that had the Word of God but decided to reject it in order to follow their traditions that broke the commandments of God.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

LoveGodForever · Dec 18, 2017

Hello MMD, nice to see you back again my friend, I will break your reply to you post into smaller posts for ease of reading...

mailmandan said:

Well MMD that is NOT true at all...............

What did Jesus and the Apostles teach about the Sabbath in the New Testament?

1. It is lawful to do good on the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56)
2. Jesus made the Sabbath for all mankind (Hebrews 1:2; John 1:1-3; 14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17; Mark 2:27)
3. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath(Matthew 12:8; Mark 2:28)
4. If you do not believe and follow God you cannot enter His Sabbath rest(Hebrews 4)
5. It is one of God’s 10 commandments we break it we are guilty or breaking all (James 2:8-12)
6. Breaking it is sin (James 2:11; Romans 7:7; Romans 3:20; 1 John 3:4)
7. God’s true followers keep it Holy as God commanded(Rev 14:12; Rev 22:14; Eze 20:20)
8. Jesus is our example and he kept the Sabbath(Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matt 16:24; 1 Cor 11:1; Eph 5:1-21; Pet 2:20-22)
9. The Apostle kept the Sabbath(Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Rev 1:10)

Yep lots of scripture you seemed to have missed? If you do NOT know what the Gospel is then how do you know what the Old and NEW Covenants are? Can you tell us what the Old and NEW covenant are in your view and how the OLD is different from the NEW?

There are 10 commandments in God's LAW if you brake one you are guilty of breaking all of them and stand before God in SIN. Those who practice SIN will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven (James 2:8-12; Hebrews 10:26-27; Matthew 7:21-23)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

LoveGodForever · Dec 18, 2017

mailmandan said:

I think you are fooling yourself if you think you can NOT BELIEVE God's Word and continue in SIN. Jesus will say to those who do this "Depart from me you who work iniquity (SIN), I never knew you (Matthew 7:21-23)

This links to.....

He that saith, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him (1 John 2:4)

and again......

Whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that commits sin is of the devil; (1 John 3:6-8)

Those who continue in SIN have no part in the Kingdom of Heaven. How sad it will be for those who reject the Word of God in order to follow the teachings and traditions of men while taking God's name in vain (Matthew 15:3-9).

LoveGodForever · Dec 18, 2017

mailmandan said:

What rules and regulations? We are under the NEW Covenant today for those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW the Gospel of grace.

The regulations have been nailed to the cross with our sins because they pointed to Christ * Colossians 2:14.

Those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD are now FREE to follow him who LOVE all in LOVE and LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW in those who walk by FAITH in God's Spirit.

God's LAW is now his promise to those who BELIEVE. (Ephesians 2:8; John 8:31-36; Romans 3:31; Romans 8:1-4; Romans 13:8-10; 2 Pet 1:4)

LoveGodForever · Dec 18, 2017

mailmandan said:

Now MMD, You have to OP here with 200+ scriptures linking the Old to the NEW and showing you through God's Word that the whole Chapter of Colossians 2 is referring to the Mosaic laws for remission of sin written in the book of Moses along with the annual festival Sabbaths that are not the 4th commandment. The Chapter is NOT referring to the 10 commandments. Yet you choose to hold on your traditions that break the commandments of God and not believe God's Word. This is a shame to you as it is written the Word of God has come to you but you have chosen to reject it (John 12:47-48; Matthew 13:13-14). Unbelievers have no part in the Kingdom of Heaven.

mailmandan said:

We are not under the Old Covenant we are under the NEW Covenant. It is clear you do not know that the Old and NEW Covenants are hence by earlier questions to you for discussion. God's 4th commandment is simply...

Exodus 20
8, Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9, Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
10, But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11, For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place. Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

LoveGodForever · Dec 18, 2017

mailmandan said:

FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED (Romans 9:6).

mailmandan said:

Yes this is where you problem lies you do not know the OLD and the NEW Covenants. You really should read the OP here would be a good start. I am happy to share the scriptures with you.

mailmandan said:

Now you are referring to the civil laws of Israel before Jesus. You really are one mixed up Not KNOWING God's Word and the Old and NEW Covenants. What you are not telling everyone however is that people were put to death for openly disobeying nearly ALL of God's Commandments to teach everyone that the wages of SIN is death. Under the NEW Covenant it is still the same although not executed until the 2nd coming for those who reject the gift of God's dear son (Romans 6:23)

Examples of the death penalty for God's Law (10 commandments) being broken under the civil law of Israel in the Old Covenant......

Not honoring your mother and farther; death penalty (Lev 20:9), Blaspheming or using God’s name in vain; death penalty (Lev 24:10-17), Idolatry; death penalty (Deut 27:15; Deut 7:25-26), serving other Gods; death penalty (Deut 13:6-18; 1Sam 26:19), coveting and adultery; death penalty (2Pet 2:14; John 8:5), evil towards your neighbour; death penalty (Deut 27:15-26) and yes as the 7th Day Sabbath is one of God’s 10 commandments it was also included and if it was openly broken just like adultery (John 8:5) people were put to death.

Breaking God’s Law (10 commandments) is sin (James 2:11; Romans 7:7; Romans 3:20; 1 John 3:4) and the wages of sin is death (Rom 6:23). Nothing has changed except we have the GIFT of God to those who BELIEVE God's WORD. The wages of breaking God's LAW (10 commandments is still DEATH and recorded in the New Testament scriptures as well, although we are no longer under the civil, ceremonial, ecclesiastical, Levitical priesthood, Sanctuary laws of Moses which were shadows of things to come and have been nailed to the cross.

LoveGodForever · Dec 18, 2017

mailmandan said:

If your FAITH does not have the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE then you do not have saving FAITH. Sin will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom (James 2:18; 20 ; 26; Hebrews 10:26-27).

You quote Galatians 1:6-9 in reference to another gospel but as has been pointed out earlier through the scriptures you do not KNOW what the Gospel is. If you do not know what the Gospel how will you have a light unto your path? If you do not know the Word of God how can you teach it to others? Won't those who follow the blind both fall into a ditch?

The other Gospel is one that tries to do away with God's LAW (10 commandments)

Because it is only through the Law of God (10 commandments) that any of us have a knowledge of what sin is (1 John 3:4; Rom 3:20; 24; James 2:11; Romans 7:7).

If we do away with God's Law we have no knowledge of sin. If we have no knowledge of sin we have no need of a savior. If we have no need of a savior we have no salvation. If we have no salvation we are lost.

"For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law." (Rom 2:12).

posthuman · Dec 18, 2017

Who will save me from this body of death?
And how shall He accomplish it?

Romans 6:3
Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?

Romans 6:6-7
We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from sin.

1 Corinthians 15:56
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

posthuman · Dec 18, 2017

Romans 4:14-17
For if it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void. For the law brings wrath, but where there is no law there is no transgression. That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his offspring--not only to the adherent of the law but also to the one who shares the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, as it is written, "I have made you the father of many nations"--in the presence of the God in whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist.

posthuman · Dec 18, 2017

Romans 4:11
He received the sign of circumcision as a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. The purpose was to make him the father of all who believe without being circumcised, so that righteousness would be counted to them as well

posthuman · Dec 18, 2017

When we say 'chocolate is good' we mean one thing.

When we say 'God is good' we are talking about goodness on an infinitely higher level!

Don't treat the free gift of God like He is chocolate, which is eaten once and then disappears to dust.

LoveGodForever · Dec 18, 2017

mailmandan said:

If your FAITH does not have the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE then you do not have saving FAITH. Sin will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom (James 2:18; 20 ; 26; Hebrews 10:26-27).

You quote Galatians 1:6-9 in reference to another gospel but as has been pointed out earlier through the scriptures you do not KNOW what the Gospel is. If you do not know what the Gospel how will you have a light unto your path? If you do not know the Word of God how can you teach it to others? Won't those who follow the blind both fall into a ditch?

The other Gospel is one that tries to do away with God's LAW (10 commandments)

Because it is only through the Law of God (10 commandments) that any of us have a knowledge of what sin is (1 John 3:4; Rom 3:20; 24; James 2:11; Romans 7:7).

If we do away with God's Law we have no knowledge of sin. If we have no knowledge of sin we have no need of a savior. If we have no need of a savior we have no salvation. If we have no salvation we are lost.

"For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law." (Rom 2:12).

LoveGodForever · Dec 18, 2017

posthuman said:

Yet God's Word disagrees with you as you do not BELIEVE the scriptures wondering how many commandments there are in the 10 commandments and who made them or their purpose. (Exodus 34:28; Deuteronomy 4:13; 10:4)

If this is true how can you know the Gospel? If you do not know the Gospel you are still in your SINS. Those who teach others to break God's commandants are the least in the Kingdom of heaven because they do not go there. (Matthew 5:18-19)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God(Matthew 15:3-9)

posthuman · Dec 18, 2017

Have you not read in the Law how on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath and are guiltless?
I tell you, something greater than the temple is here.

(Matthew 12:5-6)

posthuman · Dec 18, 2017

Why does David say

Who can understand his errors?
Cleanse thou me from secret faults.

posthuman · Dec 18, 2017

Indeed, why is David forgiven for murder and adultery without offering a sacrifice?

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