"The Lord will miraculously heal."

[stonesoffire]

I do believe that healing is in the atonement.

There will be a time that I will pass over. But, until then, I will walk this out by His Word.

And I judge no one, is not my right.

I can say this though, I did things on Monday that I haven't been able to do for years. However, I still have a way to go.

 

[Depleted]

I believe that the Lord will not give "words of knowledge" or a specific vision first to someone other than the one who is intimate with Christ. He will speak the word first to them. We are only the ones who can give confirmation.

That is why I question them as to what they think the Lord is saying to them, and if possible only confirm if I discern the same. At least if wrong, we are both wrong. No one hears perfectly accurate all the time.

What if the person who needs healing is unconscious of has Alzheimer? Not easy to get visions then. Or, if they do, remembering it.

 

[Depleted]

I do not know of this Word Of Faith doctrine which seems to be
the latest Christian fashion in the U.S.A.

I stick to tradition and Bible teaching.
Divine healing has been the hallmark of Pentecostalism for some 130
years, through apostles and preachers going back to the scriptures and
believing that answered prayer by faith is still possible, still available for today.

14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray
over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up;
and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
James 5:

I guess a lot depends on which church you are part of.
But I know of Lutherans and yes Catholics who have been miraculously
healed from cancer or other life threatening ailments.
Faith with humility is the key.

In The Revival Fellowship we believe in and experience many miracles and
healings - but of course not 100%.
Yes some people die; some go on for years with ailments.
Faith? Understanding of who we are in Christ Jesus?
Unrepentant sins? Wrong attitude?

At every formal worship service we conduct a prayer line wherein we
can come out to the front and seek prayer for whatever ...
I have been healed instantly on many occasions but also on many
occasions I have not been healed.
Later I have prayed fervently with a new understanding of something I
missed before, and have claimed the victory in Jesus by the Holy Spirit.

I have seen American style charismatic and so-called evangelical pastors
and preachers that command a miracle of healing by their authority.
We do not do this in The Revival Fellowship.

I would say something like; "I believe that God is able to perform miracles
and in my church we pray for healings. Would you like me to pray for you?"

Surprisingly some people say no thanks.

Do you think God chooses denominations to heal in?

 

[pottersclay]

Someone told me that about my mother. She died. I was sent back to Dad's house, so never got to ask those people, (there was more than one), what he meant by that.

I've seen a few people say that to people praying for their loved ones on this site. One of those people that were supposedly going to be miraculously healed died on Christmas Eve.

For those who say that, what do you mean? And WHERE do you go when the person you are sure God will heal dies? The best response I've ever seen out of people who give the word-of-faith that someone sick will be healed, but then dies, was "I'm sorry for your loss. He's in a better place now."

When you love someone deeply, you want to hear God will heal them. So, if someone tells you with great authority, that God WILL heal your love one, you really, really count on that.

Where are you after the person dies? What do you say to that person? Since the best I ever saw was very much like, "Oh well, I'm sorry for your loss," how much faith did you have in the first place? And why did you pass off a lie about God as if it was no big thing?

Is there remorse? Do you even care? Or was that no more significant to you than saying Gesundheit after someone sneezes?

Have you ever said it to a close relative, or someone you work with each day? Someone you will have to see and interact with day after day when you find out your mighty word-of-faith was nothing more than a lie? Or do you only reserve it for people you don't know, so you don't have to face your fault? What happens afterward when you were wrong? Because the afterward is when that person you lied to needs comfort too.

A friend of mine has just lost her husband after being told, more than once, on this site that the Lord would heal him. (He had Stage Four cancer in several organs then.) Another friend is facing Stage Three stomach cancer with her father. Whether the "The Lord will miraculously heal" was something glib, or something deep on your heart when you say it, I really want to know where are you when the person dies? What happened to your great consult -- your great Word of Faith? And what do you do now?

This also goes for people who are sure God will heal someone simply because you assuredly said he would, even for a headache or a cold. After all, you too are sure you can choose God's decision by your great faith, so what happens when God chose not to do the miracle you, in great faith, were sure he would?

I will attempt to express what I have experienced and come to know as I was healed by the Lord's hand but not without much frustration.

Human emotion and Devine intervention never danced well together. usually out of step. First I would like to say that I detest the lack of faith argument. There are many healings that didn't require faith even to the raising of the dead.
Let's look at Jesus in the garden as the best example of what I am trying to explain. The son of man the son of God knowing his time has come asks for what? Strength? Painless torture? No he asks if there's any other way. This life gets such a grip on us and our emotions with our family and friends, loved ones ect we tend to back God in a corner. Heal me and your a good and merciful God. Let me suffer and die....well some have blamed God and walked away. What ever happened to thy will be done?
Back in the garden Jesus gets his emotional state in step with Devine intervention. None were saved by his life....only by his death.
If God chooses to heal, people see Devine intervention.....but if they die is that Devine intervention? Yes it is. Nothing comes into this world nor leaves it without God doing and knowing.
The Lord placed me in my own garden.....praying and praying for healing. He led me to my most feared crossroad what if he doesn't? Is it going to hurt to die? Will I struggle? Am I really saved? My prayers started changing, more focused on the ones I leave behind, especially my wife.
With a deep breath I said those words.....thy will be done. I'm trusting you Lord...A great peace came to me. First good night rest in a week or so.
I could eat again. Think, smile,
Yes God can use and does use people to heal others. He has demonstrated many ways that he heals in the gospels. He can do it conventional, miraculously. Through doctors , herbs.
There's a old Steven segal movie where the bad guy is quoted as saying " everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die".
That lines has stuck in my brain along time. Praise God when there will be no more death, tears and suffering. That shall come to pass too.

 

[Waggles]

Do you think God chooses denominations to heal in?

Yes.
Some denominations are more open and much more expectant of miracles
and healings.
Some denominations are closed to miracles and healings and preach that such
only happened when Jesus was here on Earth and by the original apostles in order
to kickstart Christianity off...

Divine healing and miracles is integral to the story of the Christian church and
discipleship we can read of in our New Testaments, particularly the book of Acts.

As a Pentecostal church upholding the full gospel of salvation we preach all of
the scriptures and stand on the promises of God to his church:

Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins,
should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
1Peter 2:24
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities:
the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Isaiah 53:5
Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray,
believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
Matthew 11:24
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will,
and it shall be done unto you.
John 15:7

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils;
they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them;
they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Mark 16:

6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee:
In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.
7 And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet
and ankle bones received strength.
8 And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple,
walking, and leaping, and praising God.
9 And all the people saw him walking and praising God:
Acts 3:

Believing the scriptures and preaching that what was the doctrine and the way
of the first century church is the basis for the power of "these signs shall follow
them that believe" in Pentecostal churches.
It is not that nobody else never ever gets a healing or a miracle, but outside
of Pentecostal faith such seem few and far between.
Some here on this 'Christian' chat site vehemently deny miracles and healings,
calling them fake (or worse the work of Satan).

But in our Pentecostal faith we are spoiled by our Father and Jesus through his
indwelling Holy Spirit.
For he is a Spirit of power and through faith delivers often much more than
we ask for.

There are nine gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed to members of a Bible
obedient disciplined Pentecostal church for the benefit of its members.
1Corinthians 12 tells us of these -
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by
the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; ...

These three gifts work together.
So when I go out to the prayer line that is faith
When an Elder prays over me that is faith
When I receive a healing that is the gift of healing
and the Elder is exercising the gift of working of miracles.

As this blog is getting very very long I will continue in a following
dialogue box.

 

[Waggles]

Why does not everybody get healed immediately and miraculously
in my Pentecostal church?
Someone rudely mocked me because as you can see I wear reading glasses.
Why do you need glasses then if you can pray for and get healings?

The scriptures are written in utopian ideals of being perfect in faith and in
one's walk as children of the light.
Both Jesus and the Apostles extol us to seek perfection and to never sin
or allow sin to gain the upper hand.
But my walk is not perfect. And believe me the flesh does rebel against the Spirit
and the Spirit conflicts against the flesh.
And there are times that my faith and my commitment is not 101% zeal.
Yes I get lazy and take my blessings for granted.
Then there is the problem of unrepentant sin and not being on the right side
of my heavenly Father.
So my Father who is much wiser than I turns a deaf ear to my whining and
complaining about not getting what I want.

It takes more than just faith in the scriptures and promises of God.
Learning and overcoming are also important.
Examining oneself and dealing with those secret and not so secret sins
is also necessary.
Sometimes it is necessary to say enough is enough Lord Jesus and Father
I need this healing to maintain my testimony and to uphold my faith.
Fasting and prayer are also a good way to seek victory.

Why do I wear glasses. Because I can buy them easily enough from the
optometrist - yes it is being in a comfort zone.
But in Papua New Guinea where extremely poor people do not have access to
optometrists the rely on the Lord for everything and so the blind are healed and can see.

But I can't cure my crippling arthritis and bone degeneration. And as I needed a
healing for this I pressed in and boldly exercised faith and resolve quoting verses
on healing as I was being prayed over.
I received my healing and a wonderful victory in Jesus.

A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.
Proverbs 17:22

 

[Waggles]

A testimony to being healed of womb cancer

http://miracles.areonthe.net/TESTIM... of my womb, healed - Makali Kalale - PNG.pdf

 

[garee]

Miracles are miracles nothing more and nothing less .Waking up on the green side of the grass no less.God is God, no less

Some that walk by sight require a sign before they believe. And this is even though knowing God is no longer bringing new prophecy to confirm.

We walk by the faith of Christ that comes from hearing God and not after a signs and wonders gospel. (name it claim it).

All sicknesses and diseases are part of death caused by the corruption of God when man was in the garden. As soon as mankind is born the process begins. No healing of the flesh is permanent. In a physical sense God is no longer performing the kind of miracles that were used during the first century.

The dead rise, people born blind see, people with missing limbs are restored, the deaf hear. All of those spoke of the focus of gospel in respect to the anticipation of our new bodies . These bodies of death will die.. In that sense God has mercy on whom he has mercy. Like falling rain it falls on the just and the unjust..

The commandment is to pray without ceasing. Illnesses provide an opportunity hard to resist. But the name and claim it as if God was waiting for us before he healed a person could fall into condemnation for taking the name of God in vain. James informs us if sick we should pray .And if any our sick among us in respect to the soul as a spiritual matter because they have sinned because the Lord has called them to repentance. They will be forgiven.

The effects of our new bodies as far a healing and never again facing the things of this world, corruption in a body of death will happen when we do receive the promise. And therefore have shed this body of death.

No guarantees when it comes to physical healing. Making oaths of name it claim it is not of our father in heaven .

The healing are spiritual in nature. They shall be forgiven.

But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.Is any among youIs any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he hath committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. Jam 5:12

 

[Angela53510]

If we are supposed to be discussing false prophecies in the realm of healing- i.e. “you are going to be healed” when in fact, the person dies without healing, is that not a false prophet?

As usual, the Bible deals very well with false prophecies. ONE false prophecy means the person should be stoned to death.

”[FONT=&quot][/FONT]But if any prophet presumes to speak anything in my name that I have not authorized him to speak, or speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. 21 Now if you say to yourselves, ‘How can we tell that a message is not from the Lord?’— 22 whenever a prophet speaks in my name and the prediction is not fulfilled, then I have not spoken it; the prophet has presumed to speak it, so you need not fear him.” Deut. 18:20-22 NET

That sure would stop a lot of this modern day false predictions, wouldn’t it?

Ahh! Those were the days!

 

[notuptome]

If we are supposed to be discussing false prophecies in the realm of healing- i.e. “you are going to be healed” when in fact, the person dies without healing, is that not a false prophet?

As usual, the Bible deals very well with false prophecies. ONE false prophecy means the person should be stoned to death.

”But if any prophet presumes to speak anything in my name that I have not authorized him to speak, or speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. 21 Now if you say to yourselves, ‘How can we tell that a message is not from the Lord?’— 22 whenever a prophet speaks in my name and the prediction is not fulfilled, then I have not spoken it; the prophet has presumed to speak it, so you need not fear him.” Deut. 18:20-22 NET

That sure would stop a lot of this modern day false predictions, wouldn’t it?

Ahh! Those were the days!

Those were very harsh days. I really don't think we want to return to them.

The problem with unfulfilled expectations of healing is that they are man driven and not God led.

When we hurt or a loved one hurts we want God to heal and remove the suffering. It's only natural to seek comfort and healing.

We must not allow our will to separate us from Gods will. If we believe scripture we must believe that God heals and God allows us to suffer for our good and for His glory.

Ro 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

If we have great suffering in this world will we not expect greater rejoicing in the next?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[7seasrekeyed]

so, everyone in the Bible who was healed was Pentecostal?

nah....I don't think so

I don't think God requires, expects or even wants someone to be a certain denom

it would be great, most likely, if we just actually took our eyes off people and stopped all the blah blah blah

and that includes WOF, NAR, hyper anything and a big farmer's load of ...what bulls do inna field

Bible never says demand your healing...or tell people sow your seed money and God will heal you...Oral Roberts really passed on a great tradition there, didn't he?....Bible says to pray...have the elders pray..frankly I would not let just about anyone put their hands on me and pray these days and make of that what you will

person dies...oops...they didn't have enough faith...I don't know about anyone else, but it seems to me that if you are dying you have about all the faith you are going to ever have if you still want to live and something about a mustard seed

no...Pentecostals sure don't have all the goods even though some think they are sitting on them

and yes, even though I am not Pentecostal, I have had enough to do with that denom to say that like any other denom, shared info would sometimes help...kind of like the different depts in gov...instead of holding everything to your chest...be open...you will achieve more

ok...well lost a bunch of people in this post I am sure, prob bored a bunch and got others angry at me or at least displeased

 

[notuptome]

so, everyone in the Bible who was healed was Pentecostal?

nah....I don't think so

I don't think God requires, expects or even wants someone to be a certain denom

it would be great, most likely, if we just actually took our eyes off people and stopped all the blah blah blah

and that includes WOF, NAR, hyper anything and a big farmer's load of ...what bulls do inna field

Bible never says demand your healing...or tell people sow your seed money and God will heal you...Oral Roberts really passed on a great tradition there, didn't he?....Bible says to pray...have the elders pray..frankly I would not let just about anyone put their hands on me and pray these days and make of that what you will

person dies...oops...they didn't have enough faith...I don't know about anyone else, but it seems to me that if you are dying you have about all the faith you are going to ever have if you still want to live and something about a mustard seed

no...Pentecostals sure don't have all the goods even though some think they are sitting on them

and yes, even though I am not Pentecostal, I have had enough to do with that denom to say that like any other denom, shared info would sometimes help...kind of like the different depts in gov...instead of holding everything to your chest...be open...you will achieve more

ok...well lost a bunch of people in this post I am sure, prob bored a bunch and got others angry at me or at least displeased

Pentecost is a Jewish feast. Shavuot the feast of the Latter first fruits.

Pentecost did not originate in Acts 1.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Inquistor]

Pentecost is a Jewish feast. Shavuot the feast of the Latter first fruits.

Pentecost did not originate in Acts 1.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Can you point to any VALID references that support your rather wild claim above? Did God manifest "tongues of fire" over peoples' heads any time PREVIOUS to Pentecost that we are told about in the book of Acts?

 

[Depleted]

If you were told to hold out your hand for a large sum of money, would you refuse to do so because not everyone you know got some money when they did that, just some of them?

How does that relate to my questions?

Best I can do with that is if YOU offered large sums of money to everyone who held out their hands, but didn't have it to give to most of them, then what do you do with those you gave none to, after you promised it to them? After all, you promised the money to them.

 

[Depleted]

I do not know of this Word Of Faith doctrine which seems to be
the latest Christian fashion in the U.S.A.

I stick to tradition and Bible teaching.
Divine healing has been the hallmark of Pentecostalism for some 130
years, through apostles and preachers going back to the scriptures and
believing that answered prayer by faith is still possible, still available for today.

14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray
over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up;
and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
James 5:

I guess a lot depends on which church you are part of.
But I know of Lutherans and yes Catholics who have been miraculously
healed from cancer or other life threatening ailments.
Faith with humility is the key.

In The Revival Fellowship we believe in and experience many miracles and
healings - but of course not 100%.
Yes some people die; some go on for years with ailments.
Faith? Understanding of who we are in Christ Jesus?
Unrepentant sins? Wrong attitude?

At every formal worship service we conduct a prayer line wherein we
can come out to the front and seek prayer for whatever ...
I have been healed instantly on many occasions but also on many
occasions I have not been healed.
Later I have prayed fervently with a new understanding of something I
missed before, and have claimed the victory in Jesus by the Holy Spirit.

I have seen American style charismatic and so-called evangelical pastors
and preachers that command a miracle of healing by their authority.
We do not do this in The Revival Fellowship.

I would say something like; "I believe that God is able to perform miracles
and in my church we pray for healings. Would you like me to pray for you?"

Surprisingly some people say no thanks.

I suspect you know a lot more about WoF than you realize, however, this isn't that topic. I want to know if you ever told someone God would heal them, only to learn God did not heal them. And, if you did, then what? Because they're either still sick, or their loved one is dead, and they could use comfort. Do you ask for forgiveness after lying about what God would do for them? Do you ask for their forgiveness too? Do you comfort them? Do you try to help them?

Or do you just do what you did here and blame it on them because
"Faith? Understanding of who we are in Christ Jesus?
Unrepentant sins? Wrong attitude?"

 

[RickyZ]

Someone told me that about my mother. She died. I was sent back to Dad's house, so never got to ask those people, (there was more than one), what he meant by that.

I've seen a few people say that to people praying for their loved ones on this site. One of those people that were supposedly going to be miraculously healed died on Christmas Eve.

For those who say that, what do you mean? And WHERE do you go when the person you are sure God will heal dies? The best response I've ever seen out of people who give the word-of-faith that someone sick will be healed, but then dies, was "I'm sorry for your loss. He's in a better place now."

When you love someone deeply, you want to hear God will heal them. So, if someone tells you with great authority, that God WILL heal your love one, you really, really count on that.

Where are you after the person dies? What do you say to that person? Since the best I ever saw was very much like, "Oh well, I'm sorry for your loss," how much faith did you have in the first place? And why did you pass off a lie about God as if it was no big thing?

Is there remorse? Do you even care? Or was that no more significant to you than saying Gesundheit after someone sneezes?

Have you ever said it to a close relative, or someone you work with each day? Someone you will have to see and interact with day after day when you find out your mighty word-of-faith was nothing more than a lie? Or do you only reserve it for people you don't know, so you don't have to face your fault? What happens afterward when you were wrong? Because the afterward is when that person you lied to needs comfort too.

A friend of mine has just lost her husband after being told, more than once, on this site that the Lord would heal him. (He had Stage Four cancer in several organs then.) Another friend is facing Stage Three stomach cancer with her father. Whether the "The Lord will miraculously heal" was something glib, or something deep on your heart when you say it, I really want to know where are you when the person dies? What happened to your great consult -- your great Word of Faith? And what do you do now?

This also goes for people who are sure God will heal someone simply because you assuredly said he would, even for a headache or a cold. After all, you too are sure you can choose God's decision by your great faith, so what happens when God chose not to do the miracle you, in great faith, were sure he would?

Death and healing are not opposites. Indeed, death is the ultimate healing. This body changes from corruptible to its eternal prime! Any healing you receive on this side is temporary - you're going to go on to die of something else anyway. But the healing we receive as we pass to the other side - that is complete and eternal! So no, praying for healing is not inconsistent with dying.

 

[Depleted]

I do believe that healing is in the atonement.

There will be a time that I will pass over. But, until then, I will walk this out by His Word.

And I judge no one, is not my right.

I can say this though, I did things on Monday that I haven't been able to do for years. However, I still have a way to go.

Not my question. Have you ever told someone that the Lord told you they would be healed, or their loved one would be healed, and then the person wasn't healed or the loved one died? AND, if you have, what did you do afterward?

Because, quite frankly, all I've ever experienced, (and I'm experiencing it right now in this thread, and elsewhere on this site), is when that happens the Yaysayers hide or make excuses for themselves. (Usually hide. Sometimes make more platitudes.)

 

[Depleted]

I will attempt to express what I have experienced and come to know as I was healed by the Lord's hand but not without much frustration.

Human emotion and Devine intervention never danced well together. usually out of step. First I would like to say that I detest the lack of faith argument. There are many healings that didn't require faith even to the raising of the dead.
Let's look at Jesus in the garden as the best example of what I am trying to explain. The son of man the son of God knowing his time has come asks for what? Strength? Painless torture? No he asks if there's any other way. This life gets such a grip on us and our emotions with our family and friends, loved ones ect we tend to back God in a corner. Heal me and your a good and merciful God. Let me suffer and die....well some have blamed God and walked away. What ever happened to thy will be done?
Back in the garden Jesus gets his emotional state in step with Devine intervention. None were saved by his life....only by his death.
If God chooses to heal, people see Devine intervention.....but if they die is that Devine intervention? Yes it is. Nothing comes into this world nor leaves it without God doing and knowing.
The Lord placed me in my own garden.....praying and praying for healing. He led me to my most feared crossroad what if he doesn't? Is it going to hurt to die? Will I struggle? Am I really saved? My prayers started changing, more focused on the ones I leave behind, especially my wife.
With a deep breath I said those words.....thy will be done. I'm trusting you Lord...A great peace came to me. First good night rest in a week or so.
I could eat again. Think, smile,
Yes God can use and does use people to heal others. He has demonstrated many ways that he heals in the gospels. He can do it conventional, miraculously. Through doctors , herbs.
There's a old Steven segal movie where the bad guy is quoted as saying " everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die".
That lines has stuck in my brain along time. Praise God when there will be no more death, tears and suffering. That shall come to pass too.

Not my question. And, in your case, this is personal. My question is what will you do if a person you said would be healed by God is not healed? You promised God would heal her father. What will you do, if that was not God's promise, just yours?

 

[Depleted]

Yes.
Some denominations are more open and much more expectant of miracles
and healings.
Some denominations are closed to miracles and healings and preach that such
only happened when Jesus was here on Earth and by the original apostles in order
to kickstart Christianity off...

Divine healing and miracles is integral to the story of the Christian church and
discipleship we can read of in our New Testaments, particularly the book of Acts.

As a Pentecostal church upholding the full gospel of salvation we preach all of
the scriptures and stand on the promises of God to his church:

Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins,
should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
1Peter 2:24
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities:
the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Isaiah 53:5
Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray,
believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
Matthew 11:24
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will,
and it shall be done unto you.
John 15:7

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils;
they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them;
they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Mark 16:

6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee:
In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.
7 And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet
and ankle bones received strength.
8 And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple,
walking, and leaping, and praising God.
9 And all the people saw him walking and praising God:
Acts 3:

Believing the scriptures and preaching that what was the doctrine and the way
of the first century church is the basis for the power of "these signs shall follow
them that believe" in Pentecostal churches.
It is not that nobody else never ever gets a healing or a miracle, but outside
of Pentecostal faith such seem few and far between.
Some here on this 'Christian' chat site vehemently deny miracles and healings,
calling them fake (or worse the work of Satan).

But in our Pentecostal faith we are spoiled by our Father and Jesus through his
indwelling Holy Spirit.
For he is a Spirit of power and through faith delivers often much more than
we ask for.

There are nine gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed to members of a Bible
obedient disciplined Pentecostal church for the benefit of its members.
1Corinthians 12 tells us of these -
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by
the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; ...

These three gifts work together.
So when I go out to the prayer line that is faith
When an Elder prays over me that is faith
When I receive a healing that is the gift of healing
and the Elder is exercising the gift of working of miracles.

As this blog is getting very very long I will continue in a following
dialogue box.

So your god is a respector of persons, depending if they're in the right denomination? Wow! How was Lazarus healed? He wasn't in any denomination.

 

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If we are supposed to be discussing false prophecies in the realm of healing- i.e. “you are going to be healed” when in fact, the person dies without healing, is that not a false prophet?

As usual, the Bible deals very well with false prophecies. ONE false prophecy means the person should be stoned to death.

”But if any prophet presumes to speak anything in my name that I have not authorized him to speak, or speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. 21 Now if you say to yourselves, ‘How can we tell that a message is not from the Lord?’— 22 whenever a prophet speaks in my name and the prediction is not fulfilled, then I have not spoken it; the prophet has presumed to speak it, so you need not fear him.” Deut. 18:20-22 NET

That sure would stop a lot of this modern day false predictions, wouldn’t it?

Ahh! Those were the days!

Thank you. Just when I was beginning to think very few got my question in the first place.

(Has anyone else noticed most of this thread is about miracles? My question is about when God does not provide the miracle after someone promised he would.)