Is Sally Saved?
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sigh... .. its a hypothetical situation. please look it up if you don't understand what that means, or ask me, and will put the definition of hypothetical on this thread for you.
In the hypothetical situation above, is Sally Saved? It does not matter if Sally was born out of wedlock, or who her parents are, or even if Sally would actually say this or that. DUDE its a hypothetical question.
What Sally expressed in the above hypothetical situation is that she believes in Jesus Christ, that statement alone, with anyone who know Scriptures is reason enough to say and understand that Sally is indeed Saved. Maybe you can address what Sally might or might now have been wearing at the time she walked up the Alter, if that would have bearing on the decision she was trying to make. That would be as relevant as what you are talking about here.
Its a hypothetical situation. It does not matter the WHY she said it, what is relevant is what she said. Next why don't you talk about what kind of wood was the pew that she sat on and how was it relevant to make her get up, was the pew uncomfortable and that is what made her get up? Hmmm. lets talk about that shall we?
In the OP it does not discuss whether water baptism is a physical public act or actual Salvation, the OP merely says she was baptized, please try to stay on topic, the question is, with the information given concerning the situation with Sally in the OP, was she Saved or not. If you feel there is not sufficient information, then say so, that you don't know if she was saved or not, because you need more information.
This Thread is about whether Sally is Saved or not Saved. Please start a thread about water baptism if that is what you would like to discuss.
And this thread is not about the result of Salvation, but is indeed about the cause of it, If Sally is Saved or not saved, because she believes in Jesus Christ.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
In the hypothetical situation above, is Sally Saved? It does not matter if Sally was born out of wedlock, or who her parents are, or even if Sally would actually say this or that. DUDE its a hypothetical question.
What Sally expressed in the above hypothetical situation is that she believes in Jesus Christ, that statement alone, with anyone who know Scriptures is reason enough to say and understand that Sally is indeed Saved. Maybe you can address what Sally might or might now have been wearing at the time she walked up the Alter, if that would have bearing on the decision she was trying to make. That would be as relevant as what you are talking about here.
Its a hypothetical situation. It does not matter the WHY she said it, what is relevant is what she said. Next why don't you talk about what kind of wood was the pew that she sat on and how was it relevant to make her get up, was the pew uncomfortable and that is what made her get up? Hmmm. lets talk about that shall we?
In the OP it does not discuss whether water baptism is a physical public act or actual Salvation, the OP merely says she was baptized, please try to stay on topic, the question is, with the information given concerning the situation with Sally in the OP, was she Saved or not. If you feel there is not sufficient information, then say so, that you don't know if she was saved or not, because you need more information.
This Thread is about whether Sally is Saved or not Saved. Please start a thread about water baptism if that is what you would like to discuss.
And this thread is not about the result of Salvation, but is indeed about the cause of it, If Sally is Saved or not saved, because she believes in Jesus Christ.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
Still wondering where Dave is. He is not one to drop a bomb and walk away. In fact, he would usually have 50 posts by now. If anyone knows where Dave is, please post on here.
1) meant to encourage?
2) said in Love?
3) mocking?
4) belittling?
5) said to make other laugh at anothers expense?
6) satan in your heart when you said it?
7) God in your heart when you said it?
please explain what was in your heart towards me, when you say what you say above? Out of the heart reveals where your treasures are.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
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(completing my thought)
Will she now move out of the practice of sin and into the practice of righteousness? Who knows. But it's clear that no matter what one thinks about once saved always saved, if she practices a lifestyle of sin she will not be saved when Jesus returns. Once saved always saved either way does not change that fact. Either she was never really saved to begin with, or she lost it. Either way she's toast when Jesus comes back.
Will she now move out of the practice of sin and into the practice of righteousness? Who knows. But it's clear that no matter what one thinks about once saved always saved, if she practices a lifestyle of sin she will not be saved when Jesus returns. Once saved always saved either way does not change that fact. Either she was never really saved to begin with, or she lost it. Either way she's toast when Jesus comes back.
This Thread is not about who is Saved and who is not Saved. It is not about who is Christian who is not Christian. This particular Thread is about GETTING SAVED, the moment a person accepts Jesus Christ as their Savior and Lord. It is not about what a Saved person does or does not do after they are Saved.
The hypothetical situation is about Sally GETTING SAVED. it is NOT about tomorrow, next week, next year if Sally is still SAVED or not. This thread and poll is about the ONE day that Sally accepts Jesus Christ as her Savior and Lord, if on that DAY is she Saved or not Saved?
Scripturally speaking and answering the hypothetical question of the OP, the correct answer via using Scriptures, is that Sally is SAVED. We are not talking about the next day, or Sally's life, or what she is wearing, or what she is going to do with her life, it is not about judging Sally and her life in any way whatsoever. The OP is talking about a specific DAY that Sally GETS Saved, nothing more.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
The hypothetical situation is about Sally GETTING SAVED. it is NOT about tomorrow, next week, next year if Sally is still SAVED or not. This thread and poll is about the ONE day that Sally accepts Jesus Christ as her Savior and Lord, if on that DAY is she Saved or not Saved?
Scripturally speaking and answering the hypothetical question of the OP, the correct answer via using Scriptures, is that Sally is SAVED. We are not talking about the next day, or Sally's life, or what she is wearing, or what she is going to do with her life, it is not about judging Sally and her life in any way whatsoever. The OP is talking about a specific DAY that Sally GETS Saved, nothing more.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
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I guess it does.
I now don't let that be a distraction to the truth that if a person is living in sin when Jesus comes back they will not be saved. You can think that means that person was never saved to begin with, or they lost the salvation they had. Or truly saved people won't live in sin, and so on, but the fact remains the person who lives in sin will not inherit the kingdom when Jesus comes back.
This is an issue because 'once save always saved' and 'salvation not being by works' is being used to make it so there is this particular group of people in the church who live in sin yet WILL inherit the kingdom of God when Jesus comes back. It's the new grace theology in the church. And it's nothing more than the belief that grace is a license to sin. Even though it is denied that what it is. If that isn't making grace a license to sin, what is?
I now don't let that be a distraction to the truth that if a person is living in sin when Jesus comes back they will not be saved. You can think that means that person was never saved to begin with, or they lost the salvation they had. Or truly saved people won't live in sin, and so on, but the fact remains the person who lives in sin will not inherit the kingdom when Jesus comes back.
This is an issue because 'once save always saved' and 'salvation not being by works' is being used to make it so there is this particular group of people in the church who live in sin yet WILL inherit the kingdom of God when Jesus comes back. It's the new grace theology in the church. And it's nothing more than the belief that grace is a license to sin. Even though it is denied that what it is. If that isn't making grace a license to sin, what is?
This Thread is not about if Sally is going to Heaven going to Hell, or how Sally chooses to live her life. This Thread and OP is specifically about a specific day that Sally accepted Jesus Christ as her Savior and Lord, if on that particular DAY is Sally SAVED or Not SAVED. Can we all please try to stay on topic?
The hypothetical situation that i gave in the OP, is concerning ONE DAY, not the days after, not Sally's life, not if Sally going to go to Heaven or go to Hell. The OP is specifically talking about ONE DAY that SALLY got SAVED, if she did or didn't is the meaning of this thread. Nothing about her works, nothing about sinless perfection, or anything else that people can come up with to take the focus of what the OP actually is asking. Which is. ON that particular Day that Sally started believing in Jesus, and God Saved, was she Saved or not on that particular day?
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
The hypothetical situation that i gave in the OP, is concerning ONE DAY, not the days after, not Sally's life, not if Sally going to go to Heaven or go to Hell. The OP is specifically talking about ONE DAY that SALLY got SAVED, if she did or didn't is the meaning of this thread. Nothing about her works, nothing about sinless perfection, or anything else that people can come up with to take the focus of what the OP actually is asking. Which is. ON that particular Day that Sally started believing in Jesus, and God Saved, was she Saved or not on that particular day?
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
Let's take this story another step further.
Sally happily walks out of church 1 hour later and gets hit by a bus and dies, will she be with Jesus?
Oh I say yes SO LONG as she didn't have one single sinful thought between church and her unfortunate meeting with the bus
Sally happily walks out of church 1 hour later and gets hit by a bus and dies, will she be with Jesus?
Oh I say yes SO LONG as she didn't have one single sinful thought between church and her unfortunate meeting with the bus
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
Does Sally KNOW what SIN is?
Does Sally need to REPENT of her SINS before she BELIEVES in God's forgiveness or can she continue in SIN and just BELIEVE like the devils do?
If Sally does not KNOW what SIN is how does she know she is in NEED of a Savior?
SIN is the transgression of God's LAW and those who KNOWINGLY practice SIN without
REPENTANCE and FAITH in God's GRACE will not enter into God's Kingdom.
The road is dark and narrow when your lamp has gone out...
Does Sally need to REPENT of her SINS before she BELIEVES in God's forgiveness or can she continue in SIN and just BELIEVE like the devils do?
If Sally does not KNOW what SIN is how does she know she is in NEED of a Savior?
SIN is the transgression of God's LAW and those who KNOWINGLY practice SIN without
REPENTANCE and FAITH in God's GRACE will not enter into God's Kingdom.
The road is dark and narrow when your lamp has gone out...
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