Not By Works

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Ralph- said:
It's not your accusations. You're entitled to your opinion. It's you harassing me that is wrong. Wake up, dude, stop holding a grudge. You are walking in unforgiveness.
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and you think it is your place to judge everyone. so, why don't you take that plank out of your eye, and see that while you are busy lecturing folks about being righteous, you are doing something Jesus directly said not to do- judging.
 
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Nobody here has an example of a works gospel.

Get it?

The entire deal is in their mind.
 
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Budman said:
Yes. Whatever you do, don't point out Ralph's bearing false witness and hypocrisy, or you could get cancer!

You take the cake, Ralph. You really do.
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You can think whatever you want about me. What you can't do is hold it against me in hatred and unforgiveness. That will bring God's punishment on you if you don't stop. But I should not be terribly surprised that you do not believe the passage I cited, right? Let's see how many of you do not believe what Paul wrote. Let's see.
 
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Ralph- said:
Come on! Why do people not believe the word of God?????

Tell me why you disagree with Paul.

I've been saying this over and over and over to myself. The church has departed from the word of God. It took me many years but I finally came to the sober realization that what the church believes and teaches is far different than what the Bible actually says. We just gloss over those parts that don't fit with what we've been taught. This is a perfect example.
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Well I still have so much to learn and I am not as mature as many in here , but I just felt that comment was a bit OTT , that is why I said it is just my opinion , I felt as if you said it with some kind of nastiness , if that was not the case than I am sorry , but it still feels a bit off...xox...
 
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gb9 said:
and you think it is your place to judge everyone. so, why don't you take that plank out of your eye, and see that while you are busy lecturing folks about being righteous, you are doing something Jesus directly said not to do- judging.
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Who are you? What do you do? I don't know you? How can I judge you?

Start mistreating me in this thread then I will know you and what you do. Then I'm entitled to consider you to not have eternal life in you based on your unrepentant Whether that's true or not, I don't know. I just know you would be acting like an unbeliever and I can consider you to be one. Don't cross the line. You've been annoying but you haven't been mistreating me. Don't start.
 
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heartofdavid said:
The spirit of esau is operating in here.
( hatred of your brother)

That is the root of the attacking.
Thats why they are right in the edge.
Claws are already out,and they can't hear what is being said.
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*You children of snakes, you who are evil—how could you possibly say anything good? For the mouth simply shapes the heart’s impulses into words. (Matthew 12:34).

*Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. (Luke 6:37).

*For the Word of God is ALIVE AND ACTIVE. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit.....it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. (Hebrews 4:12).

[SUP]We do not dare to classify or compare ourselves with some who commend themselves. When they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are not wise.
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Start mistreating me in this thread then I will know you and what you do. Then I'm entitled to consider you to not have eternal life in you
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The ego and gall of this guy! Unbelievable!
 
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Ralph- said:
Who are you? What do you do? I don't know you? How can I judge you?

Start mistreating me in this thread then I will know you and what you do. Then I'm entitled to consider you to not have eternal life in you based on your unrepentant Whether that's true or not, I don't know. I just know you would be acting like an unbeliever and I can consider you to be one. Don't cross the line. You've been annoying but you haven't been mistreating me. Don't start.
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so, I have told you that we should not judge others, that God can rightly and fairly judge because he knows the heart, and we do not, Jesus said take the plank out of your own eye first, and He also said do not judge, and you shall not be judged.

guess truth must annoy you.
 
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Rosemaryx said:
Well I still have so much to learn and I am not as mature as many in here , but I just felt that comment was a bit OTT , that is why I said it is just my opinion , I felt as if you said it with some kind of nastiness , if that was not the case than I am sorry , but it still feels a bit off...xox...
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We're cool. You are one of the few here who actually shows the grace of God in salvation around here.

I assure you I meant no nastiness to him. He's been harassing me and harassing me about him thinking I lied about something. I showed him I did not. But he still persists in his hateful, unforgiving accusations. The mods aren't doing anything which makes me think he and others are 'in' with them. I don't know that of course, but it looks that way because it seems to be 'hands off' for them.

Besides making him aware of his sin against me, I'm pointing out what my opposition likes to say when I say they are making grace a license to sin. They are quick to say God punishes his sons for the wrong they do. Well, if they really believe that (I don't think they do believe that, honestly) then they'd better stop harassing me. Let's see if they believe what Paul says.
 
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heartofdavid said:
Nobody here has an example of a works gospel.

Get it?

The entire deal is in their mind.
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Is not a works based gospel when one works in order to be saved or works are devoid of faith and love?
Like the goats?
 
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so, I have told you that we should not judge others, that God can rightly and fairly judge because he knows the heart, and we do not, Jesus said take the plank out of your own eye first, and He also said do not judge, and you shall not be judged.

guess truth must annoy you.
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Guy, how is cutting and pasting scripture about how God judges, me judging you? Explain this. No really. Explain this. Don't ignore the question.

And isn't what you're doing judging me?
 
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They are quick to say God punishes his sons for the wrong they do.
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Where? Where do we say that? Yet another false accusation!

Christ took ALL of our punishment, Ralph! That's what we keep saying!

STOP YOUR LYING!
 
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Budman said:
The ego and gall of this guy! Unbelievable!
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Are you just going to keep on attacking? If you continue you will just be showing us who you are. Don't you understand this?????
 
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Let me help you guys

Religion is men building a ladder to heaven.

Christianity is God extending his ladder to earth.

Cults and religion do this,build ladders

This thread is somehow oblivios to that simple fact
 
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Ralph, you really need to stop accusing us of hating you. Correcting you in not the equivalent of hatred. And stop threatening us with God simply because we don't agree with you.
 
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And let our people also learn to maintain good works, to meet urgent needs, that they may not be unfruitful.
Titus 3:14


Jesus taught us that those who are in Him, can indeed be removed from Him, because they are unfruitful.


Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. John 15:2




JPT
 
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Ralph- said:
Are you just going to keep on attacking? If you continue you will just be showing us who you are. Don't you understand this?????
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What you want to do, is shut down any and all opposition to you. That is what cult leaders do, Ralph. They threaten their followers with damnation if they disagree with them.
 
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