Billy Graham has died at age 99.

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Yet you're coming off as if you're judging He's in hell. It really doesn't do you any good, now does it? You won't know until you leave this Earth. So why even attempt to open a can of worms?
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Keep trying Speak2Me.....

Albert Gallatin Mackey was born in Charleston, South Carolina, the son of John Mackey (1765 - December 14, 1831)

I have years of research on this stuff. Mr Mackey never could have known Billy Graham, someone added that to the description to sell a book.

This if the most fun I have had on CC in a long time. :)




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Note the position of the right hand, especially the thumb.

Also note the left hand forming the Lion's Paw.




Truman was a well-known freemason.



Note again the position of the thumb.



Actual masonic ceremony. Again, the thumb.
 
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no one ever knew 'me' = born and bred into the 'masonic cult/shriners', etc...'free masons',=
my 'last name' before 'deliverance'...ask me, and I will tell you exactly what this means,
with 'no fear', for my Holy Saviour, Jesus Christ has delivered me and Hub from any kind of
so called 'power' that their string pullers have over them while they continue to dominate the world
and its inhabitants...
 
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This secret identifying handshake if it is a secret it is the world's worst kept secret, as half the planet knows about it.


The actual reason for the handshake was mundane. In the days before large scale hotels in cities, many masonic halls would allow masons from other masonic lodges stay in rooms in their headquarters, just as gentlemen's clubs would have members staying over. To stop people turning up in say London looking for cheap rooms by claiming to be a freemason, they would be asked for proof that they really were, the proof being a special handshake used by members.

Most masonic halls no longer have rooms available, and the handshake is proof of nothing as millions of non-masons now know it from the internet.

Politics.ie - The Irish Politics & Current Affairs Website

Watch any event where people are shaking hands and you will see that people have a learned routinized placement of their thumbs.

The gesture of the hand on the lapel, my husband did that all the time when talking with people (force of habit) and he was not a Freemason.



 
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I thank Jesus Christ that he is dead and asleep and awaiting the consequences
of his un-holy actions as he will have to stand before our King...
 
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That doesn't change anything I already told you. Why not answer my question?
 
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You thank Jesus that he is dead:confused:

This is I do not understand.


I thank Jesus Christ that he is dead and asleep and awaiting the consequences
of his un-holy actions as he will have to stand before our King...
 
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One of the saddest statements I have ever read on CC. :(

his un=holy individual, satanic power is now no more,..
You judge Graham's status before Christ, based upon the internet rumor mill, innuendo, hearsay, suspicions, those who sole purpose is to defame and profit from said defamation ...but then it is okay to judge because the internet sources and the supposed truth seekers who have nothing better to do with their time, have made it their business to tell the world who is and who is not a false teacher........ all the while profiting from their efforts handsomely.

God only knows, what we did before the internet to find out who was and was not a false teacher.:confused:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4TMuee7Ir8


[video=youtube;b4TMuee7Ir8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4TMuee7Ir8[/video]
 
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"Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets." (Luke 6:26)

I'm also one of those few here who believe Billy was a wolf in sheep's clothing. He devoted his life to ecumenicalism, and aligned himself with false teachers and religions. When leaders of all faiths praise you, that's a huge red flag. Because the true gospel of Christ is offensive to the lost world (1 Peter 2:7-8, 1 Corinthians 1:18, Proverbs 29:27).

I'm posting this short video by Dave Hunt for those with an open mind:

[video=youtube;FSvp-rS30hg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSvp-rS30hg&t=159s[/video]





I watched almost to the end of the video; (I'd seen enough and was too disgusted to want to watch anymore). Thanks for posting it.

Billy Graham represents the thinking and mode of operation of the majority of Christians and churches today, so it's no surprise that most of them praise him. To do otherwise would be to condemn themselves and their own pastors for doing like Graham and for receiving people like him.

If anyone wants evidence of the great apostasy of the saints that precedes the revealing of the antichrist, the overwhelming praise and defense of this heretic and others like him is a chunk of it.

Christians will receive anyone who comes in Jesus' name, no matter what he does or doesn't preach. They're so concerned about not being judgmental that they've abandoned the doctrine of the New Testament and have lost their discernment and good judgment, and become useless and defiled.

Modern "Christianity" is all love, love, love, acceptance, acceptance, acceptance, happiness, happiness, happiness. But the love isn't the love of God, and the acceptance is actually compromise, and the happiness is carnal happiness, not spiritual joy. What fills the megachurches is the same sweet drivel and heresy and mealy-mouthed preaching that made Billy Graham a success in the eyes of man and a failure in the eyes of God.

(If the apostle Paul, or Jesus Christ Himself in another form, were to preach in a "successful" church today, they'd be resented---maybe even booed, by Christians and unsaved people alike.)

I'm reminded of what Paul (who was an example of a God-approved evangelist) said to the church in Corinth:

I feel a divine jealousy for you, for I betrothed you as a pure virgin to Christ. But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the One you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough." (2 Corinthians 11:2-4)

If Christians like what a man is saying, and he's nice and charismatic, they'll receive him, even if what he is saying contradicts the teachings of the New Testament or of the Bible as a whole. But if they don't like what he's saying, they will reject him even if he's speaking directly from the word of God.

Just like the Jews didn't need God to do Judaism their own way, and resented Jesus for pointing out their hypocrisy and deviation from the Law they were given, Christians don't need Christ to do Christianity their own way, and they resent being told that they're following in the errant footsteps of the Jews before them. And just look what they've done to Christianity, and how they're faring spiritually for their departure from the doctrine of the New Testament and obedience to Jesus Christ: Successful in their own eyes and the eyes of men perhaps, but wretched in the sight of God.

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.
(Galatians 1:8-10)
 

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Christians will receive anyone who comes in Jesus' name, no matter what he does or doesn't preach. They're so concerned about not being judgmental that they've abandoned the doctrine of the New Testament and have lost their discernment and good judgment, and become useless and defiled.
That sums it all up quite nicely. :)
 
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Watch any event where people are shaking hands and you will see that people have a learned routinized placement of their thumbs.

The gesture of the hand on the lapel, my husband did that all the time when talking with people (force of habit) and he was not a Freemason.
1. Graham wasn't holding on his lapel.
2. The handshake was valid.

There's also another sign in chat rooms.......... Certain people will seek to "invalidate at all costs anything truthful" about such people.

As long as the person in discussion is heretical, they will take up for them, & say anything to deliver them.

That, is you & JM.(and some others)
 
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When the world loves you & goes after you, you are not God's.

The world loves their own.
 

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Christians are to be people of love, people who love, people who exhibit love, people who exude love, people who stir up love, people who communicate love, and people who sacrificially love. Why? Because God is love and we can love God because He first loved us (1 John 4:18-19) and gave Himself up for us at the cross.

We have every reason to be lovers of men, to give of our money, time, energy to others so that they may see our good works and glorify our Father in heaven. It’s the least that we can do given the amazing love shown to us, wretched sinners though we were. Indeed,
“But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” (Rom. 5:8). People will know that we are the disciples of Christ by the way we love one another (John 13:35). Sadly, we fail to imitate our Savior’s love and do so repeatedly in our sin. May God give us grace to overcome the prejudices and self-righteousness that robs of us biblical love for others.

But sometimes a cliché can take the place of divine revelation. A popular religious proverb gains ascendancy and becomes dogma even without scriptural support. “God helps those who help themselves” is not found in scripture, for instance, but is just a good ol’ baptized American value. (Spurgeon had it right when he said that biblically, the saying should be “God helps those who cannot help themselves.”)

The same can be said of the notion that Christians are to love everyone equally without distinction. Like God, in whatever sense Christians are to love people in general, there are distinctions in that love that are not sinful and actually reflect the character and behavior of God Himself. We are to love our enemies and tormentors, as Jesus said (Matt. 5:43-48), and we are to show goodness to all men (recall the good Samaritan story), but not in the same way we love and treat our spouses, children, church family, and perhaps even countrymen.

There are concentric circles that naturally and rightly and biblically govern our love. For instance, the love I have for my spouse is supposed to mirror the love Christ has for His church (Ehp. 5:25). He loves His church in a way He does not love others. He loves them more intimately and intensely. They are, after all, His sheep and He knows them intimately in a way he does not know and love wolves or goats (John 10: 11-16). He laid down his life for the church (Eph. 5:25; John 10:15) and no greater love has any man than that (John 15:13).

Likewise, we are to love Christ, our spouses, and fellow brothers and sisters in Christ in special ways as well. That is, we are to discriminate, to love with proper distinctions, just as Christ does. We may be required to love all men, do good to all men, but not equally or indistinguishably. Paul wrote the church at Galatia and told them to do good to all men, but especially the church (Gal. 6:10).

So we are to draw distinctions, not based on race or gender or class (abolished in Gal. 3:8), but upon proximity in family relations (God, family, church, etc.). It’s natural and biblical. A person who is good to others but neglects his children is worse than a person who is good to his children but neglects others. Why? He has a God given moral obligation towards his children that is greater than that towards others. In other words, our love for others is attenuated by our degree of moral obligation towards them.

God Himself loved Jacob and hated Esau (Rom. 9:13), He loved Israel in a special way over all other nations on the earth, certainly not Egypt (the firstborn males of whom he directly slaughtered), the Lord established an everlasting loving covenant with Isaac and not Ishmael (Gen. 17:18-21), and He loves His people, His children (1 John 3:1), exclusively called The Beloved, in a special way over all other peoples on the earth.

Indeed, at the end of the age, God will separate the sheep from the goats and show special love towards His own people. It will be they, and they only, whom the Lord will clothe in robes of white. Who are they and where did they come from?

[SUP]Revleation 7:13 [/SUP]Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes —who are they, and where did they come from?”

[SUP]14 [/SUP]I answered, “Sir, you know.”
And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
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15 [/SUP]Therefore,

“they are before the throne of God
and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne
will shelter them with his presence.
[SUP]
16 [/SUP]‘Never again will they hunger;
never again will they thirst.
The sun will not beat down on them,’
nor any scorching heat.
[SUP]
17 [/SUP]For the Lamb at the center of the throne
will be their shepherd;
‘he will lead them to springs of living water.’
‘And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”


https://thereformedmind.wordpress.com/2012/07/26/are-we-to-love-everyone-equally-does-god/
 
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​The stupidity in this thread is astounding.smh
 
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Let me ask you something, how many years have studied Freemasonry and other esoteric groups at the source of their own writings, I have, even with that I have very limited knowledge and understanding of them and how they operate.

My main point is that the internet, and sound bites, are not credible and should not be a source of proof to defame someone's name.

On the internet I can find amble evidence that .........

Luther - member of the Illuminati, Freemason, possible Theosophist

Calvin - member of the Illuminati, Freemason

William Booth - Freemason, member of the Illuminati

Dave Hunt - false teacher

John McArthur - false teacher, possible Freemason, has Freemasons in his family

R. C. Sproul - false teacher

Chuck Smith - false teacher

You name the high profile person I will find internet evidence they are false teachers.

This, SpeaktoMe, is more truly the name of The Freemasonry Game to plant some false teachers but then create a whirlwind of accusations against pretty much everyone and anyone who has some notoriety so that have us lowly Christians are backbiting each other over and over.

Propaganda is a powerful thing....I leave it a that.




1. Graham wasn't holding on his lapel.
2. The handshake was valid.

There's also another sign in chat rooms.......... Certain people will seek to "invalidate at all costs anything truthful" about such people.

As long as the person in discussion is heretical, they will take up for them, & say anything to deliver them.

That, is you & JM.(and some others)
 
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