This is what lancelot accused me of when I posted to joaniemarie the heretical views of kenneth hagin who in turn passed down these views to kenneth copeland who's a real "peach" of a heretic.
So lancelot, the following is what joaniemarie sain in a number of her post regarding a statement of faith. Point #3 says, "We believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God, born of a virgin, lived a sinless life as He walked among men, demonstrated the authority and power of God in works and speech, died on the cross, rose from the dead on the third day, (Now pay attention to this part lancelot?) and is now seated at the right hand of God HAVING ACCOMPLISHED ALL THAT IS NECESSARY FOR MAN'S SALVATION." Did you cathch that lancelot?
The following is what some wof heretical teaches teach to this day. kenneth copeland in one of his tapes said to his audience, "You don't know what happend at the cross." Here is what happened according to some of these wof teachers.
"Do you think that the punishment for our sin was to die on a cross? If that were the case, the two thieves could have paid our price. No, the punishment was to go into hell itself and to serve time in hell separated from God" (Frederick K.C. Price, Ever Increasing Faith Messenger, June 1990, p. 7).
"Ladies and gentlemen, the serpent is a symbol of Satan. Jesus Christ knew the only way he would stop Satan was by becoming one in nature with him. You say, What did you say? What blasphemy is this? No, you hear this! He did not take my sin; He became my sin" (Benny Hinn, Benny Hinn broadcast on TBN, December 15, 1990).
"When Jesus cried "It is finished!" He was not speaking of the plan of redemption. There were still three days and nights to go through before He went to the throne. He was referring to the Abrahamic Covenant Jesus' death on the cross was only the beginning of the complete work of redemption" (Kenneth Copeland, "Jesus - Our Lord of Glory", Believer's Voice of Victory, April, 1982, p. 3).
"The righteousness of God was made to be sin. He accepted the sin nature of Satan in His own spirit. And at that moment that He did so He cried, `My God, My God, Why hast thou forsaken me?' You don't know what happened at the cross. Why do you think Moses, upon instruction of God, raised the serpent upon that pole instead of a lamb? That use to bug me. I said, `Why in the world would you want to put a snake up there - the sign of Satan? Why didn't you put a lamb on that pole?' And the Lord said, `Because it was a sign of Satan that was hanging on the cross.' He (Jesus) said, `I accepted in my own spirit, spiritual death; and the light was turned off'" (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened From the Cross to the Throne? cassette tape, Kenneth Copeland Ministries, parenthesis mine).
So I ask you lancelot, do you believe what these teaches said happened to Jesus Christ? So tell me how I am "misinformed" or "prejudice?" And btw, don't give me the lame excuse that I'm taking them out of context. I have many of their complete tapes, cd's, books and pahphlets i.e primary sources from way back to the early 1980"s. PS: I'm only scratching the surface on this stuff.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
So lancelot, the following is what joaniemarie sain in a number of her post regarding a statement of faith. Point #3 says, "We believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God, born of a virgin, lived a sinless life as He walked among men, demonstrated the authority and power of God in works and speech, died on the cross, rose from the dead on the third day, (Now pay attention to this part lancelot?) and is now seated at the right hand of God HAVING ACCOMPLISHED ALL THAT IS NECESSARY FOR MAN'S SALVATION." Did you cathch that lancelot?
The following is what some wof heretical teaches teach to this day. kenneth copeland in one of his tapes said to his audience, "You don't know what happend at the cross." Here is what happened according to some of these wof teachers.
"Do you think that the punishment for our sin was to die on a cross? If that were the case, the two thieves could have paid our price. No, the punishment was to go into hell itself and to serve time in hell separated from God" (Frederick K.C. Price, Ever Increasing Faith Messenger, June 1990, p. 7).
"Ladies and gentlemen, the serpent is a symbol of Satan. Jesus Christ knew the only way he would stop Satan was by becoming one in nature with him. You say, What did you say? What blasphemy is this? No, you hear this! He did not take my sin; He became my sin" (Benny Hinn, Benny Hinn broadcast on TBN, December 15, 1990).
"When Jesus cried "It is finished!" He was not speaking of the plan of redemption. There were still three days and nights to go through before He went to the throne. He was referring to the Abrahamic Covenant Jesus' death on the cross was only the beginning of the complete work of redemption" (Kenneth Copeland, "Jesus - Our Lord of Glory", Believer's Voice of Victory, April, 1982, p. 3).
"The righteousness of God was made to be sin. He accepted the sin nature of Satan in His own spirit. And at that moment that He did so He cried, `My God, My God, Why hast thou forsaken me?' You don't know what happened at the cross. Why do you think Moses, upon instruction of God, raised the serpent upon that pole instead of a lamb? That use to bug me. I said, `Why in the world would you want to put a snake up there - the sign of Satan? Why didn't you put a lamb on that pole?' And the Lord said, `Because it was a sign of Satan that was hanging on the cross.' He (Jesus) said, `I accepted in my own spirit, spiritual death; and the light was turned off'" (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened From the Cross to the Throne? cassette tape, Kenneth Copeland Ministries, parenthesis mine).
So I ask you lancelot, do you believe what these teaches said happened to Jesus Christ? So tell me how I am "misinformed" or "prejudice?" And btw, don't give me the lame excuse that I'm taking them out of context. I have many of their complete tapes, cd's, books and pahphlets i.e primary sources from way back to the early 1980"s. PS: I'm only scratching the surface on this stuff.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto