Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

Shamah · Mar 20, 2018

Acts 21:25, "But as for the Gentiles who have believed, we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality.”

Revelation 2:20, "But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols."

HeRoseFromTheDead said:

Ohh you mean what was not in the original text but was scribbled into the margin of the manuscript and later added as the word... You need to seek Yah and His truth...

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 7:1-23, [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Then the Pharisees and certain scribes came together to Him, having come from Yerusalem. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 And when they saw some of His disciples eating bread with defiled-that is to say, unwashed – hands, they found fault. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]3 (Now the Pharisees, and the Yahdaim generally, never eat without washing their hands, holding the tradition of the elders. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]4 And when they come from the marketplaces, they do not eat unless they wash. And many other traditions they observe, such as the ritual washing of cups, pots, bronze utensils, and beds.) [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him; Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands? [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]6 He answered, and said to them: Well has Isayah prophesied of you hypocrites – as it is written: This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]7 But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]8 For laying aside the Law of YHWH, you hold the tradition of men! [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]9 Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of YHWH, so that you may keep your own tradition![/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]So clearly Yahshua the Messiah rebukes them for not only making their own "laws" but actually casting aside the Laws of YHWH. Since foods being clean or unclean is a common understanding attached to this passage, let us consider if food Laws are man made or if the Creator made these Laws.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 7:1-2, "Then YHWH said to Noah: Come into the ark, you and all your household, for I have seen you righteous before Me in this generation. You shall take with you seven pairs of every clean animal, a male and his female; two of animals that are unclean, a male and his female;"[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 11:1-2, "And YHWH spoke to Mosheh and Aaron, saying to them: Speak to the children of Israyl, saying; These are the animals you may eat among all the beasts upon the land" 43-44, "You shall not make yourselves abominable with any creature that moves about on the ground. Do not defile yourselves by means of them, nor be made unclean by them. I am YHWH your Heavenly Father. You shall therefore consecrate and sanctify yourselves, and you shall be holy; for I am holy. Neither shall you defile yourselves with any creature that moves about on the ground." 46-47, "This is the Law of the animals, and the birds, and every living thing that moves in the waters, and every creature that moves about on the ground. You must distinguish between the unclean and the clean – between the animal that may be eaten, and the animal that may not be eaten."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]We can see these Laws literally came directly from the mouth of YHWH, so when Messiah said: "How well you reject the Law of YHWH, so that you may keep your own tradition!" It is clear He is not rebuking them for telling people to follow YHWH's food Laws, but for their pharisee hand washing "law;" Mark 7:5, “Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him; Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands? [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Malakyah 3:6-7, "For I am YHWH, I change not; therefore you sons of Yaaqob are not consumed. Ever since the days of your fathers you have turned away from My ordinances, and have not kept them. Return to Me, and I will return to you! says YHWH of hosts. But you said; How will we return?"[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]10 For Mosheh said: Honor your father and your mother; and: Whoever curses father or mother, let him be put to death; [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11 But you say; If a man will say to his father or mother: Anything of mine which might have benefited you is qorban (that is, a gift set apart for YHWH)-- [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]12 You excuse him from doing what he is obligated to do for his father and his mother; [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]13 Making the Laws of YHWH of no effect through your tradition you have handed down! And many other similar things you do.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]More evidence of the pharisees adding their own laws to the people why excusing themselves from following YHWH's Law.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]14 And when He had called all the people to Him, He said to them: Everyone, listen to Me and understand! [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]15 There is nothing from outside a man, that entering into him can defile him; but the things which come out of him, those are things which defile the man. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]16 If any man has ears to hear, let him hear! [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]17 But when He had left the people and entered the house, His disciples asked Him about the parable.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Because Messiah say: "nothing from outside a man, that entering into him can defile him" many that want to reject YHWH’s food Laws say see I can eat! But when did context of Scripture not matter? In context the entire passage is about eating with "unwashed--hands." Can we completely remove it from its context and expect to get the true meaning? Also if you consider verse 17, "His disciples asked Him about the parable," yet "all things are clean food" is taught as doctrine, not as parable.....… Again in context verse 17, parable. SO Messiah proceeds to explain further:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]18 He said to them; Are you also without understanding? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]19 Because it does not enter into his heart; mind, but his stomach, and then into the toilet as all food is eliminated? [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Now this is where the deception comes in, as you see I have shown verse 19 translated 2 different ways. Which one is correct? The second translation is the much more common translation, here is a short list of translations that match the second translation (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean): New International Version, New Living Translation, English Standard Version, New American Standard Bible, Holman Christian Standard Bible, NET Bible, GOD'S WORD Translation, English Revised Version, Weymouth New Testament.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]We will look at the original language, but first I want to mention again, CONTEXT, can we somehow go from the whole topic being about a hand washing ritual and unclean animals not even being in the discussion to unclean animals are now food?[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The first thing you will notice is the words, "In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean," are completely absent. It is only included in some translations because someone added the words into the margin of an ancient text, not even into the actual sentence, but on the margin (side) of the page. Any who made copies of this text or translations and included it into the verses were committing forgery. Before moving on, I want to ask, why did someone feel the need to forge words into the text that were not originally there? In my opinion to add as commentary would have been factually wrong according to the meaning of the text, but acceptable because commentary is one opinion of what the text means, but to add it to the text itself is deception plain and simple.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]19 Because it does not enter into his heart but his stomach, and then into the toilet (856) as all food is cleansed out (2511)?[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]toilet” is word #G856 – aphedrón: a place of sitting apart, i.e. a privy, drain, Original Word: ἀφεδρών, ῶνος, ὁ, Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine, Transliteration: aphedrón, Phonetic Spelling: (af-ed-rone'), Short Definition: a drain, latrine, Definition: a drain, latrine, Word Origin – from apo and hedraios, Definition – a place of sitting apart, i.e. a privy, drain[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]cleansed out” is word #G2511 - katharizó: to cleanse, Original Word: καθαρίζω, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: katharizó, Phonetic Spelling: (kath-ar-id'-zo), Short Definition: I make clean, Definition: I cleanse, make clean, literally, ceremonially, or spiritually, according to context., Word Origin - from katharos, Definition - to cleanse[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]20 Then He said: That which comes out of the man, that defiles the man; [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]21 For from within – out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]22 Thefts, lust, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, and foolishness-- [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]No this is not about declaring foods clean, it is about the pharisees making their own laws, enforcing them upon others and making a show they are holy with their made up laws, but Messiah is saying it is evil from within which should be guarded against. This exact same account is also detailed in Mattithyah 15, and this is also shown there:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them: And why do you transgress the Laws of YHWH by your traditions?"[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 15:17, "Do you not yet understand that whatever enters in at the mouth goes into the stomach, and then is cast out in elimination?"[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]But is we keep reading we see the meaning of the PARABLE:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 7:17, " But when He had left the people and entered the house, His disciples asked Him about the parable."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 15:15, "But Kepha spoke, and said to Him; Explain this parable to us."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Kepha is Peter, so if all foods were cleansed why did Kepha years later still not eat unclean food?[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 10:14, "But Kepha said; By no means, Ruler, for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Because Mark 7 & and Matt 15 were not about food but a pharisee hand washing ritual as the parable is explained here:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 15:20, "These are the things which defile a man – but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]As Acts 10 was not about food either:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 10:28, "And he said to them; You yourselves are aware how it is not Lawful for a Yahdai to associate with one of another nation, or to enter his house; but YHWH has shown me that I must not call any man common or unclean."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]So in Mattithyah the parable is fully explained, yet in Mark it is not, is it possible that is why those false words were added to Mark 7:19? If they were added to Mattithyah 15, it would have been a contradiction, but Mark having not being fully explained, it left the door open? Again the words “thus Jesus declared all foods clean” are a clear forgery

Check the original manuscripts....
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Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

Don't you love how people have time to beat the same dead horse but not answer a few simple questions?

It shows you where their wisdom comes from....

Anyway back to my retelling of the story from Exodus?

posthuman · Mar 20, 2018

Shamah said:

the One who says this also says "my words will never pass away"

not one jot or tittle means not one jot or tittle -- how is it we do not sin by neglecting to wear tzitzit, and how is it that the law physically commands circumcision, but Paul is able to say by the Spirit that circumcision is 'nothing' and even that accepting it means Christ is of no value to you?

how are the sacrifices and the physical penalties of the Torah taken away if not one jot or tittle passes away?
how is circumcision taken away if not one jot or tittle passes away?
how is kosher diet taken away? aren't these jots and tittles?

is this not binary?

scripture is not broken. there is One who is mighty to save from this body of death.

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

This is still a part of my "first reading" which is to understand content and approach scriptures as a little child.

With that in mind where did we leave off?

Manna and quail from God.

I would set up a room covered with shiny pieces of golden paper to represent manna, give each person a small cup and tell them they need to only full half the cup. They only had seven minutes to gather it because when the sun came up, it would all melt away. Then see what happened.

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Most likely you would see what God saw in the desert. Some people would gather too much and some people would gather too little. However when it was weighed they all gathered the exact same amount.

To replicate this I would help them "bake" their manna and give everyone the exact same amount. Then ask them these questions.

1. Who gathered more than half a cup? Why did you gather more? How did you feel about getting just as much food as the other people who gathered less?

2. Who gathered exactly half a cup? Why did you? Do you believe those who gathered more should have been given more food? Do you believe those who gathered less should have been given less food?

3. Who had trouble gathering even half a cup? Why didn't you gather more? How did you feel about still getting food even though you didn't measure up?

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I believe if people are truthful and answer these question we learn some insight into the lesson God is trying to teach us.

At least I did.

tluke157 · Mar 20, 2018

I know truth about sabbath day

gb9 · Mar 20, 2018

Shamah said:

Acts 21:25, "But as for the Gentiles who have believed, we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality.”

Revelation 2:20, "But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols."

Ohh you mean what was not in the original text but was scribbled into the margin of the manuscript and later added as the word... You need to seek Yah and His truth...

Mark 7:1-23,

1 Then the Pharisees and certain scribes came together to Him, having come from Yerusalem.

2 And when they saw some of His disciples eating bread with defiled-that is to say, unwashed – hands, they found fault.

3 (Now the Pharisees, and the Yahdaim generally, never eat without washing their hands, holding the tradition of the elders.

4 And when they come from the marketplaces, they do not eat unless they wash. And many other traditions they observe, such as the ritual washing of cups, pots, bronze utensils, and beds.)

5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him; Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?

6 He answered, and said to them: Well has Isayah prophesied of you hypocrites – as it is written: This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me.

7 But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the Law of YHWH, you hold the tradition of men!

9 Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of YHWH, so that you may keep your own tradition!

So clearly Yahshua the Messiah rebukes them for not only making their own "laws" but actually casting aside the Laws of YHWH. Since foods being clean or unclean is a common understanding attached to this passage, let us consider if food Laws are man made or if the Creator made these Laws.

Genesis 7:1-2, "Then YHWH said to Noah: Come into the ark, you and all your household, for I have seen you righteous before Me in this generation. You shall take with you seven pairs of every clean animal, a male and his female; two of animals that are unclean, a male and his female;"

Leviticus 11:1-2, "And YHWH spoke to Mosheh and Aaron, saying to them: Speak to the children of Israyl, saying; These are the animals you may eat among all the beasts upon the land" 43-44, "You shall not make yourselves abominable with any creature that moves about on the ground. Do not defile yourselves by means of them, nor be made unclean by them. I am YHWH your Heavenly Father. You shall therefore consecrate and sanctify yourselves, and you shall be holy; for I am holy. Neither shall you defile yourselves with any creature that moves about on the ground." 46-47, "This is the Law of the animals, and the birds, and every living thing that moves in the waters, and every creature that moves about on the ground. You must distinguish between the unclean and the clean – between the animal that may be eaten, and the animal that may not be eaten."

We can see these Laws literally came directly from the mouth of YHWH, so when Messiah said: "How well you reject the Law of YHWH, so that you may keep your own tradition!" It is clear He is not rebuking them for telling people to follow YHWH's food Laws, but for their pharisee hand washing "law;" Mark 7:5,“Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him; Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?

Malakyah 3:6-7, "For I am YHWH, I change not; therefore you sons of Yaaqob are not consumed. Ever since the days of your fathers you have turned away from My ordinances, and have not kept them. Return to Me, and I will return to you! says YHWH of hosts. But you said; How will we return?"

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

10 For Mosheh said: Honor your father and your mother; and: Whoever curses father or mother, let him be put to death;

11 But you say; If a man will say to his father or mother: Anything of mine which might have benefited you is qorban (that is, a gift set apart for YHWH)--

12 You excuse him from doing what he is obligated to do for his father and his mother;

13 Making the Laws of YHWH of no effect through your tradition you have handed down! And many other similar things you do.

More evidence of the pharisees adding their own laws to the people why excusing themselves from following YHWH's Law.

14 And when He had called all the people to Him, He said to them: Everyone, listen to Me and understand!

15 There is nothing from outside a man, that entering into him can defile him; but the things which come out of him, those are things which defile the man.

16 If any man has ears to hear, let him hear!

17 But when He had left the people and entered the house, His disciples asked Him about the parable.

Because Messiah say: "nothing from outside a man, that entering into him can defile him" many that want to reject YHWH’s food Laws say see I can eat! But when did context of Scripture not matter? In context the entire passage is about eating with "unwashed--hands." Can we completely remove it from its context and expect to get the true meaning? Also if you consider verse 17, "His disciples asked Him about the parable," yet "all things are clean food" is taught as doctrine, not as parable.....… Again in context verse 17, parable. SO Messiah proceeds to explain further:

18 He said to them; Are you also without understanding? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him,

19 Because it does not enter into his heart; mind, but his stomach, and then into the toilet as all food is eliminated?

19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)

Now this is where the deception comes in, as you see I have shown verse 19 translated 2 different ways. Which one is correct? The second translation is the much more common translation, here is a short list of translations that match the second translation (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean): New International Version, New Living Translation, English Standard Version, New American Standard Bible, Holman Christian Standard Bible, NET Bible, GOD'S WORD Translation, English Revised Version, Weymouth New Testament.

We will look at the original language, but first I want to mention again, CONTEXT, can we somehow go from the whole topic being about a hand washing ritual and unclean animals not even being in the discussion to unclean animals are now food?

The first thing you will notice is the words, "In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean," are completely absent. It is only included in some translations because someone added the words into the margin of an ancient text, not even into the actual sentence, but on the margin (side) of the page. Any who made copies of this text or translations and included it into the verses were committing forgery. Before moving on, I want to ask, why did someone feel the need to forge words into the text that were not originally there? In my opinion to add as commentary would have been factually wrong according to the meaning of the text, but acceptable because commentary is one opinion of what the text means, but to add it to the text itself is deception plain and simple.

19 Because it does not enter into his heart but his stomach, and then into the toilet (856) as all food is cleansed out (2511)?

19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)

“toilet” is word #G856 – aphedrón: a place of sitting apart, i.e. a privy, drain, Original Word: ἀφεδρών, ῶνος, ὁ, Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine, Transliteration: aphedrón, Phonetic Spelling: (af-ed-rone'), Short Definition: a drain, latrine, Definition: a drain, latrine, Word Origin – from apo and hedraios, Definition – a place of sitting apart, i.e. a privy, drain

“cleansed out” is word #G2511 - katharizó: to cleanse, Original Word: καθαρίζω, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: katharizó, Phonetic Spelling: (kath-ar-id'-zo), Short Definition: I make clean, Definition: I cleanse, make clean, literally, ceremonially, or spiritually, according to context., Word Origin - from katharos, Definition - to cleanse

20 Then He said: That which comes out of the man, that defiles the man;

21 For from within – out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

22 Thefts, lust, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, and foolishness--

23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."

No this is not about declaring foods clean, it is about the pharisees making their own laws, enforcing them upon others and making a show they are holy with their made up laws, but Messiah is saying it is evil from within which should be guarded against. This exact same account is also detailed in Mattithyah 15, and this is also shown there:

Mattithyah 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them: And why do you transgress the Laws of YHWH by your traditions?"

Mattithyah 15:17, "Do you not yet understand that whatever enters in at the mouth goes into the stomach, and then is cast out in elimination?"

But is we keep reading we see the meaning of the PARABLE:

Mark 7:17, " But when He had left the people and entered the house, His disciples asked Him about the parable."

Mattithyah 15:15, "But Kepha spoke, and said to Him; Explain this parable to us."

Kepha is Peter, so if all foods were cleansed why did Kepha years later still not eat unclean food?

Acts 10:14, "But Kepha said; By no means, Ruler, for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean."

Because Mark 7 & and Matt 15 were not about food but a pharisee hand washing ritual as the parable is explained here:

Mattithyah 15:20, "These are the things which defile a man – but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man."

As Acts 10 was not about food either:

Acts 10:28, "And he said to them; You yourselves are aware how it is not Lawful for a Yahdai to associate with one of another nation, or to enter his house; but YHWH has shown me that I must not call any man common or unclean."

So in Mattithyah the parable is fully explained, yet in Mark it is not, is it possible that is why those false words were added to Mark 7:19? If they were added to Mattithyah 15, it would have been a contradiction, but Mark having not being fully explained, it left the door open? Again the words “thus Jesus declared all foods clean” are a clear forgery

Check the original manuscripts....

check with reality- the Mosaic law. including the dietary laws, were given only to Israel, gentiles were never under them. good effort, but another Hebrew roots fail.

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

I know in my own life I sometimes gather things like stockpiling food because of fear that I won't have enough later. Under the thinking of "being prepared", I might take more than I need. Under the thinking of "not letting things go to waste" I might take more since what isn't gathered just evaporated with the rising sun.

I might be mad that I only got the same amount of food as everyone else because I would have worked harder and expected MORE wages for my work.

However this Bible story teaches me that God is not unjust. He gave us just what we need. Disobeying him and taking more, isn't being prepared or not letting the food not be wasted. Its disobedience and lack of faith. Taking more than God tells us to take, means there is less for others in this world.

More work doesn't make us more holy.

Sometimes we forget that God doesn't want more work, but obedience.

What I find so sad is those folks who condemn me for saying that you should keep Sabbath every day..,,probably don't even keep it as God intends one day and that's why they can't understand how to do it every day.

HeRoseFromTheDead · Mar 20, 2018

HeRoseFromTheDead said:

Shamah said:

There is no textual variant in Mark 7:15.

I think it's really unfortunate that continual copy/pasting of the same large walls of text over and over and over is allowed. It really ruins the flow of a thread and eats up server hard drive space for no reason that the owners of this site have to pay for. You could use verse numbers instead when you have so many verses to share.

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

Just to be clear. I believe we should keep the Sabbath. I believe we can keep it as God commands us under the New Covenant EVERY DAY, just as we can pray without ceasing.

If you disagree or want to fight with one another about Jews and Gentiles, I can't stop you, but I will probably ignore the fighting.

Personally I believe God has One covenant people and in former times it was different but as Paul said to the Athenians...in these latter days it is by the Seed, Christ Jesus that God will judge the world.

posthuman · Mar 20, 2018

Shamah said:

what is 1 Timothy 4:4-5 about?

Shamah said:

you skipped quite a lot going from Noah to a section of the marriage contract between Yah and the children of Israel!

one thing you skipped by is the covenant Yah made with Noah, which is with all of us

Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you.
Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

Peter tells us that the ark is a picture of the Messiah. when Noah entered into it, and by it was saved, all creatures are given to him in the exact same way that plants were given, for food.

i know that the sons of Israel broke the marriage covenant with the Father, and that He handed them a bill of divorce. is the covenant Yah made with Noah broken?

posthuman · Mar 20, 2018

HeRoseFromTheDead said:

yes

how do you feel about when a person appends by copy-paste the same 15 paragraph manifesto to something like 80% of his or her posts?
for say, 3 or 400 pages straight?

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

Some days I gather too little but yet God still give me just enough to keep making it through the day.

To me the Manna is the Word of God. Spending time with God in prayer and Bible reading.

I find it ironic that many people do get a double portion weekly when they attend whatever worship service they go to be it Saturday or Sunday.

However many people starve themselves throughout the week.

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I am starting to feel like I am talking to myself, but I know God hears me. Maybe it's useful to some one.

One right and faithful step, eh?

Still not done retelling the story.

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

posthuman said:

I feel a sense of freedom when I put them on ignore and skip all their posts.

posthuman · Mar 20, 2018

Ariel82 said:

They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.
(Deuteronomy 32:21)

branches were broken so we could be grafted in -- the Branch offered Himself ♥

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

I should be getting ready for my day, but I wanted to finish the story and begin my second reading of it.

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It tells us that some people didn't eat all their food and it grew worms. Can you imagine? When your parents tell you to eat all your food, especially your vegetables, do you listen?

Now we get to the Sabbath. This is what makes this day special: God.

God tells us we can save up the day before and not worry about working for our food! Isn't that great? No worries.

Yet people sidnt listen. They still went out to see if they could get more manna, even though they had enough for the day.

Do we as adults do that? Work to make money even when we have enough? Do we forget to rest and enjoy the blessings God has given us?

I believe it shows the hidden purpose of SABBATH is not only to test people's obedience but also their trust in God. God wants us to take time to rest and be thankful for the blessings we already have instead of striving to get more and more. He commands we do this one day a week, but He entreats us to do this every day through the words of Jesus.

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

Matthew 7
25“Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life?g 28And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, 29yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. 33But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

34“Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

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For those who don't have a Bible handy and wondering which verses I mean.

Ariel82 · Mar 20, 2018

These are the questions the Israelites asked in the wilderness and that we still ask today:

"31Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ "

Do we hear God's answer?

"seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

34“Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble."

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Only when we are in the Kingdom of God, do we find Rest.

Have you enter the Heavenly Jerusalem?

posthuman · Mar 20, 2018

Ariel82 said:

i have a hangup about putting anyone on ignore. i don't use the list at all.

so, personally my feeling has been 'this a lot of scrolling down the page i have to do between posts!'

i've thought about Goebbels, and psychological effects, but not about server load. until HRFTD said -- he's right

posthuman · Mar 20, 2018

Ariel82 said:

yes,

they could not say, 'the manna only lasts for a day' -- because God can make it last for more than one, if it pleases Him: He demonstrates so! the day it is demonstrated, they are to remember. it is not by the properties of the manna, its expiration date; it is by God: He is the true manna; He is the One who sanctifies, and He has sanctified forever who He is sanctifying

Rosemaryx · Mar 20, 2018

Ariel82 said:

Hi Ariel...This is where I see to rest in Jesus every day and not just one day of the week , we are not guaranteed more than one day , so this is the day the LORD has made , let us rejoice and be glad in it...

Every day I rest in our LORD , no matter if my day is quiet or active , He is my rest...I am liking this thread Ariel , I like your simple explanation ...Also Jesus telling us not to worry about tomorrow , He is letting us know to just lean on Him one day at a time and not to take for granted that tomorrow will come ...I look forward to learning some more...xox...

Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

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