The particular feast is not mentioned, so it can't be assumed which one it is. What is interesting in Psalms 81:3 is that it directly correlates "New Moon" with "full moon" https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/psa/81/1/t_conc_559003 From the list of words, go to "Kece" or H3677. Some will argue that the root of this word means to cover and therefore conceal. However, that is an assumption of bias. It could just as well mean "cover with light", and as the word also means "to clothe" it could just as well mean "to clothe with light".
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That depends on what bible translation your reading, I prefer the KJV but I do like afew others. On this verse alone the KJV has it alittle different.
KJV Psalm 81:3
Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day.
im not a expert on Jewish festivals but it might that it's done at all the yearly feast festivals and the Passover I presume is a feast day.
a new moon is the first visible sign of the moon crescent. a full moon is fully visible I think the two are quite different.
KJV Psalm 81:3
Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day.
im not a expert on Jewish festivals but it might that it's done at all the yearly feast festivals and the Passover I presume is a feast day.
a new moon is the first visible sign of the moon crescent. a full moon is fully visible I think the two are quite different.
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There is NO VERSE that states this, however:
we have many verses that say that the passover is on the 14 of Abib [Nisan].
It is easy to observe that the moon is consistently full at Passover.
The moon is new on the first of the month because that is when the month starts.
The moon is always dark on the first day of any Biblical Calendar month.
If this doesen't satisfy you you are quite welcome to be wrong if that is what you choose.
we have many verses that say that the passover is on the 14 of Abib [Nisan].
It is easy to observe that the moon is consistently full at Passover.
The moon is new on the first of the month because that is when the month starts.
The moon is always dark on the first day of any Biblical Calendar month.
If this doesen't satisfy you you are quite welcome to be wrong if that is what you choose.
No argument there.
The reason for this is church practice and tradition, both Jewish and Christian. Traditions and practices, especially when they are found outside the text, do not necessarily a truth make. Christ had something to say about this to the Jews of His time.
No argument here. The side topic we are discussing is the definition of "new moon" - full or dark, not that it starts the lunar month, which we agree on.
But that is not in the Bible. As mentioned before, it is likely the opposite. During the Exodus on the 15th, the escaping Israelites needed a light source to see by: Exodus 13:21. This strongly implicates a dark moon during that first passover.
It doesn't satisfy but I am quite happy to be mistaken in someone else's eyes. 
The shofar is blown just after sundown of the last day of the month.
It is not blown on the Passover 14Abib; but it is blown at the beginning of any Levitical Sabbath including 15 Abib. I would be blown just after sundown of 14 Abib, etc.
Traditionally the shofar is blown on 21 occasions throughout 1 Ethanim [Tishri] (the day of trumpets [NOT THe NEW YEAR]) the seventh month.
Tradition is WRONG! The silver trumpet is called for. [this is a long tube of rolled silver foil with a flared upcurved cup like an alpenhorn.
It is not blown on the Passover 14Abib; but it is blown at the beginning of any Levitical Sabbath including 15 Abib. I would be blown just after sundown of 14 Abib, etc.
Traditionally the shofar is blown on 21 occasions throughout 1 Ethanim [Tishri] (the day of trumpets [NOT THe NEW YEAR]) the seventh month.
Tradition is WRONG! The silver trumpet is called for. [this is a long tube of rolled silver foil with a flared upcurved cup like an alpenhorn.
No argument there. The reason for this is church practice and tradition, both Jewish and Christian. Traditions and practices, especially when they are found outside the text, do not necessarily a truth make. Christ had something to say about this to the Jews of His time. No argument here. The side topic we are discussing is the definition of "new moon" - full or dark, not that it starts the lunar month, which we agree on. But that is not in the Bible. As mentioned before, it is likely the opposite. During the Exodus on the 15th, the escaping Israelites needed a light source to see by: Exodus 13:21. This strongly implicates a dark moon during that first passover. It doesn't satisfy but I am quite happy to be mistaken in someone else's eyes.
In Lev 23, in the Hebrew, the days to be observed are all called (Moaday) Appointed Times. In the English Bible, they are all called feasts even though one of them is a fast. The Passover 14Abib is one appointed time [feast]. The Appointed Time [Feast] of unleavened bread is an 8 day observance of which the first day, 15 Abib [Nisan] and the 8th day 22Abib are Levitical Sabbaths. The intervening Sunday [first day of the week] is the Appointed Time [feast] of Firstfruits (the first fruits of the Barley harvest). 50 days later we have the Appointed Time [feast] of Shavouot [Weeks] {Pentecost} which celebrates the Firstfruits of the wheat harvest.
The feast day you refer to in your question is the Levitical Sabbath of 15 Abib.
The feast day you refer to in your question is the Levitical Sabbath of 15 Abib.
If you want to understand the position I take, then yes.
I'm not a big fan of reiterating myself when people choose not to read the relevant discussions.
Do you honestly expect me to bow to your opinion simply because you are female and to disagree is to exercise pride? LOL. I find this highly amusing. Thank you for a good laugh.
The relevant discussion as you define it on your one way street? Why not just answer my question? It would not have taken long, and if you had already answered you could have pointed me to it or copy and pasted it back to me instead of taking a dismissive attitude and acting all high and mighty.No. I was simply pointing out a fact which again you do not seem to like. But you are welcome for the laugh. Your attitude is fairly typical.
If we look at the Hebrew words used in this passage, note that there are two different words used:
Hodesh = "new moon" or "month" (used over 280 times)
and
Keseh = "full moon" (used only 2 times)
Also, if we read Psalm 81, it's structure is poetry, not necessarily correlating the two words together but actually contrasting them as different moments in time. For example, imagine singing the first four verses to a 6/8 (doo-wop or fast waltz) beat for the effect:
[1 2 3 4 5 6...]
[1 2 3 4 5 6...]
"Sing-for-joy, to, God-our-strength;
Shout-joyfully-to-the-God-of-Ja, cob.
Raise a song,
strike the timbrel,
The-sweet-sounding-lyre, with the harp.
Blow the-trumpet at-the-new moon,
At-the-full moon,
on-our-feast day.
For-it-is-a-statute-for-Is-ra-el,
An, ordinance of-the-God-of-Ja, cob."
Verse 2 is a direct mirror in structure to verse 3, contrasting different instruments to be played. Then verse 3 follows through by contrasting different times to play those instruments: at the new moon, at the full moon, and on feast days (all three of which were times when Israel would celebrate), completing the poetic structure.
So a new moon (hodesh) is different from a full moon (keseh)...But is a new moon a dark moon (unseen) or a visible moon (seen)?
Well Genesis 1:14 says "let [the lights in the heavens] be for signs, appointed times, days, and years." So this tells us we're meant to see them so that they can indicate for us moments in time. A dark moon can't be seen because it gives off no visible light and thus bears no indication of what time it is per Genesis 1:14. But as soon as the moonlight is seen it satisfies God's commandment in Genesis and we can begin a new count of days until we see the moonlight again.
God never gives signs that are invisible. Signs are meant to be seen as "witnesses" to glorify Him.
So from the first instance of moonlight, when the barley crop is matured, we count 14 days to Passover, with the feast of Unleavened Bread being on the 15th day as instructed by God.
Hodesh = "new moon" or "month" (used over 280 times)
and
Keseh = "full moon" (used only 2 times)
Also, if we read Psalm 81, it's structure is poetry, not necessarily correlating the two words together but actually contrasting them as different moments in time. For example, imagine singing the first four verses to a 6/8 (doo-wop or fast waltz) beat for the effect:
[1 2 3 4 5 6...]
[1 2 3 4 5 6...]
"Sing-for-joy, to, God-our-strength;
Shout-joyfully-to-the-God-of-Ja, cob.
Raise a song,
strike the timbrel,
The-sweet-sounding-lyre, with the harp.
Blow the-trumpet at-the-new moon,
At-the-full moon,
on-our-feast day.
For-it-is-a-statute-for-Is-ra-el,
An, ordinance of-the-God-of-Ja, cob."
Verse 2 is a direct mirror in structure to verse 3, contrasting different instruments to be played. Then verse 3 follows through by contrasting different times to play those instruments: at the new moon, at the full moon, and on feast days (all three of which were times when Israel would celebrate), completing the poetic structure.
So a new moon (hodesh) is different from a full moon (keseh)...But is a new moon a dark moon (unseen) or a visible moon (seen)?
Well Genesis 1:14 says "let [the lights in the heavens] be for signs, appointed times, days, and years." So this tells us we're meant to see them so that they can indicate for us moments in time. A dark moon can't be seen because it gives off no visible light and thus bears no indication of what time it is per Genesis 1:14. But as soon as the moonlight is seen it satisfies God's commandment in Genesis and we can begin a new count of days until we see the moonlight again.
God never gives signs that are invisible. Signs are meant to be seen as "witnesses" to glorify Him.
So from the first instance of moonlight, when the barley crop is matured, we count 14 days to Passover, with the feast of Unleavened Bread being on the 15th day as instructed by God.
Consider for a moment how the sun separates the day from the night...
This world would have us believe that the new day begins in the middle of the night...but again, following the instructions of genesis 1:14, as soon as the light from the sun breaks through the darkness it is no longer night but day. So likewise as soon as the sun sets it's no longer day but night.
Darkness and light are separated from each other (genesis 1:4). And it's the distinction between light and dark that marks change because "what communion hath light with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14). So:
Light =/= Dark
Day =/= Night
Moon (visible) =/= No-Moon (dark)
Moonth =/= No-Moonth
This world would have us believe that the new day begins in the middle of the night...but again, following the instructions of genesis 1:14, as soon as the light from the sun breaks through the darkness it is no longer night but day. So likewise as soon as the sun sets it's no longer day but night.
Darkness and light are separated from each other (genesis 1:4). And it's the distinction between light and dark that marks change because "what communion hath light with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14). So:
Light =/= Dark
Day =/= Night
Moon (visible) =/= No-Moon (dark)
Moonth =/= No-Moonth
Your whole argument here rests on putting the Psalm to music and then getting creative with how they relate to each other because you think it fits better. I find this very unconvincing.
If one were to go by the first visible crescent this month, it is March 19, at 3.1%. Since division of days are reckoned from evening to evening, New Moon day (the daylight portion) is March 20th. Day 1 of new lunar month. Counting to 14 places Passover on the evening of the 2nd of April, which is a Monday.
You can go back and redefine your New Moon even two days when there isn't one. Even if you do this, at the very earliest passover would fall on a Saturday.
Anyway, for those who insist a New Moon is Dark or first visible crescent, you can believe that, but count 14 days and you'll wind up later than Friday the 30th, the day you are celebrating passover. .
If one were to go by the first visible crescent this month, it is March 19, at 3.1%. Since division of days are reckoned from evening to evening, New Moon day (the daylight portion) is March 20th. Day 1 of new lunar month. Counting to 14 places Passover on the evening of the 2nd of April, which is a Monday.
You can go back and redefine your New Moon even two days when there isn't one. Even if you do this, at the very earliest passover would fall on a Saturday.
Anyway, for those who insist a New Moon is Dark or first visible crescent, you can believe that, but count 14 days and you'll wind up later than Friday the 30th, the day you are celebrating passover. .