Must Christians Ask For Forgiveness Every Time They Sin?
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Hey Peaceful, 
. It really isn't a matter of opinion when it comes to this topic. If you believe that you must ask God for forgiveness and then tell another that they can choose not to, you're pretty much sending them on the path to Hell. Taking such a belief to its conclusion (not that you are actually doing that). This is why its important to grasp what Jesus did on our behalf, and all that He accomplished.
Romans 3:23-28 King James Version (KJV)
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Even here in the context of the verse you brought up, it is clear that we are justified by faith. Not sin confession. Where it says "remission of sins that are past", well what sin that has been committed isn't past? Once committed it is behind us (in time). It reads (as some versions translate it) entirely different as well.
Romans 3:25 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
25 whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed
Romans 3:25 New International Version (NIV)
25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[a] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—
Romans 3:25 English Standard Version (ESV)
25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.
. It really isn't a matter of opinion when it comes to this topic. If you believe that you must ask God for forgiveness and then tell another that they can choose not to, you're pretty much sending them on the path to Hell. Taking such a belief to its conclusion (not that you are actually doing that). This is why its important to grasp what Jesus did on our behalf, and all that He accomplished. Romans 3:23-28 King James Version (KJV)
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Even here in the context of the verse you brought up, it is clear that we are justified by faith. Not sin confession. Where it says "remission of sins that are past", well what sin that has been committed isn't past? Once committed it is behind us (in time). It reads (as some versions translate it) entirely different as well.
Romans 3:25 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
25 whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed
Romans 3:25 New International Version (NIV)
25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[a] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—
Romans 3:25 English Standard Version (ESV)
25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.
Ben . . . did I ever say that "we were saved by sin confession"? Romans 3:25 which I quoted was to point out - to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; -we are forgiven for sins that are past . . . I know that I am justified because of my faith in Christ . . . I know that I am made righteous because of my faith in Christ . . . again - got no problem with salvation!
I think what I don't like is the phrase "sin confession" . . . that sounds like I keep a list of all my sins and make sure that I
confess each one . . . it's not quite like that. Let's say I hit my thumb with the hammer - I say something I shouldn't - at that exact moment - I say sorry . . . did I have to "confess" that I said something I shouldn't? Nope - my heavenly Father knew what I was saying "I'm sorry" for and I'm forgiven. What do you do when you break a command of God? Nothing?
I think I make God happy that I am mindful of him . . . Forgiveness is relational.
It depends on the attitude of the individual (heart).
A lackadaisical attitude can cost you.
Of course, no one knows how far God will let us go before He acts on it, so we are to take these scriptures very seriously:
Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed--not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence--continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
New Living Translation
Dear friends, you always followed my instructions when I was with you. And now that I am away, it is even more important. Work hard to show the results of your salvation, obeying God with deep reverence and fear.
English Standard Version
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling,
Berean Literal Bible
Therefore my beloved, just as always you have obeyed, not only as in my presence, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
New American Standard Bible
So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling;
Therefore, since we have these promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God.
New Living Translation
Because we have these promises, dear friends, let us cleanse ourselves from everything that can defile our body or spirit. And let us work toward complete holiness because we fear God.
English Standard Version
Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God.
New American Standard Bible
Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
A lackadaisical attitude can cost you.
Of course, no one knows how far God will let us go before He acts on it, so we are to take these scriptures very seriously:
Philippians 2:12
New International VersionTherefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed--not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence--continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
New Living Translation
Dear friends, you always followed my instructions when I was with you. And now that I am away, it is even more important. Work hard to show the results of your salvation, obeying God with deep reverence and fear.
English Standard Version
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling,
Berean Literal Bible
Therefore my beloved, just as always you have obeyed, not only as in my presence, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
New American Standard Bible
So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling;
2 Corinthians 7:1
New International Version
Therefore, since we have these promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God.
New Living Translation
Because we have these promises, dear friends, let us cleanse ourselves from everything that can defile our body or spirit. And let us work toward complete holiness because we fear God.
English Standard Version
Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God.
New American Standard Bible
Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
I thought the above for remission of sins that are past was referring to the sins of the OT saints who lived before Jesus and were under the sacrificial legal system.
They were only covered until Jesus made the one and only perfect sacrifice by his death on the cross.
Hebrews 10:12-14
12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.
They were only covered until Jesus made the one and only perfect sacrifice by his death on the cross.
Hebrews 10:12-14
12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.
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Yes I do. Because I have seen way to many times people do actually believe what I asked. And I asked because I did not know.
Yes, and it answers my question, and I think that is the first time I have heard you say this (I am most likely wrong so forgive me)
There is a better argument against it.
Then why is it required?
See here is where I think we fall apart. I believe all sin is willful sin (unless we are a babe and are ignorant about a particular sin) and then we fall apart on repenting.
If I already agreed with God that telling a lie is a sin, and I lie for whatever reason, I can not repent of that sin and agree again it is sin, I already knew it.
Now I can go to God and admit/acknowledge/confess that I said that white lie. (in fact I believe we should) and then move on and start to seek after the things of the spirit by loving thers again, and not dwell on myself (my sin) I do not think God wants us to dwell on sin, he said he has cast them as far as the east is from the west. dwelling on our mistakes just keeps us from serving others. and that in itself is sin.
[/quote]So if one think they do not have to ask forgiveness for a sin and say they are a christian , maybe they are not one. [/quote]
Really? You had to go there
Again, I see it different, the HS points a sin out to EG. Or EG knows he sinned, and his conscious can not let hem get away with it, because he is gods child
So what does he do? He goes to the throneroom of Grace, Gets on his knees, Says God I have sinned against you and only you, by doing this (naming or confessing the sin) Lord help me overcome this desire to live in the flesh (which all sin is) and give me the desire to serve and love others (ie, God get to the root cause of my sin, and help me overcome)
what is Gods answer? I have forgotten your sin, it is no more. Go and do my will
Yes, and it answers my question, and I think that is the first time I have heard you say this (I am most likely wrong so forgive me)
There is a better argument against it.
Then why is it required?
See here is where I think we fall apart. I believe all sin is willful sin (unless we are a babe and are ignorant about a particular sin) and then we fall apart on repenting.
If I already agreed with God that telling a lie is a sin, and I lie for whatever reason, I can not repent of that sin and agree again it is sin, I already knew it.
Now I can go to God and admit/acknowledge/confess that I said that white lie. (in fact I believe we should) and then move on and start to seek after the things of the spirit by loving thers again, and not dwell on myself (my sin) I do not think God wants us to dwell on sin, he said he has cast them as far as the east is from the west. dwelling on our mistakes just keeps us from serving others. and that in itself is sin.
[/quote]So if one think they do not have to ask forgiveness for a sin and say they are a christian , maybe they are not one. [/quote]
Really? You had to go there
Again, I see it different, the HS points a sin out to EG. Or EG knows he sinned, and his conscious can not let hem get away with it, because he is gods child
So what does he do? He goes to the throneroom of Grace, Gets on his knees, Says God I have sinned against you and only you, by doing this (naming or confessing the sin) Lord help me overcome this desire to live in the flesh (which all sin is) and give me the desire to serve and love others (ie, God get to the root cause of my sin, and help me overcome)
what is Gods answer? I have forgotten your sin, it is no more. Go and do my will
welp the truth has been said already here in detail....
but not by those who lie (even if unknowingly) about Gods character and the gospel
im washing my hands of this thread
those who desire to remain under the law are pretty much blind to reproof it seems
too desperate to establish their own righteousness
ignoring the sacrifice of Jesus
romans 9
30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Romans 10
10 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above
but not by those who lie (even if unknowingly) about Gods character and the gospel
im washing my hands of this thread
those who desire to remain under the law are pretty much blind to reproof it seems
too desperate to establish their own righteousness
ignoring the sacrifice of Jesus
romans 9
30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Romans 10
10 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above
Which one of us here is preaching Judaism?
Faithfulness is required to walk in the New Covenant, because the Just shall live by his faith.
If you have a point to make, please do so by properly handling the Word of God.
I would say the same for those who liked your post without really looking at it.
Amen sis...I agree completely here. The first few sentences of your post is why I don't like threads like this. Seems that most here agree that we should be sorrowful and ask forgiveness when we sin, out of respect for God and his holy ways...well at least I hope so anyhow. So why would anyone even want to discuss whether it is necessary or not?
To the rest of you all... I don't get what the point of this thread is all about? Is this just some hypothetical argument or what? I don't think any of y'all are saying we shouldn't be sorrowful and ask forgiveness for sin...at least I hope not...so what is the point of this discussion.
Is there any good reason that we shouldn't ask for forgiveness and help (strengthening) when we sin? Just asking...
To the rest of you all... I don't get what the point of this thread is all about? Is this just some hypothetical argument or what? I don't think any of y'all are saying we shouldn't be sorrowful and ask forgiveness for sin...at least I hope not...so what is the point of this discussion.
Is there any good reason that we shouldn't ask for forgiveness and help (strengthening) when we sin? Just asking...
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First, you say Jesus' sacrifice covers everything but unbelief, now it's Jesus' sacrifice covers everything!
Why then are there so many people in Hell? Why is there a falling away in the church even as we speak?
Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
New Living Translation
Don't be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed--the one who brings destruction.
English Standard Version
Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,
Berean Study Bible
Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness (the son of destruction) is revealed.
Berean Literal Bible
No one should deceive you in any way, because it is not until the apostasy shall have come first, and the man of lawlessness shall have been revealed--the son of destruction,
New American Standard Bible
Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,
King James Bible
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Why then are there so many people in Hell? Why is there a falling away in the church even as we speak?
2 Thessalonians 2:3
New International Version
Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
New Living Translation
Don't be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed--the one who brings destruction.
English Standard Version
Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,
Berean Study Bible
Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness (the son of destruction) is revealed.
Berean Literal Bible
No one should deceive you in any way, because it is not until the apostasy shall have come first, and the man of lawlessness shall have been revealed--the son of destruction,
New American Standard Bible
Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,
King James Bible
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
More scriptures to come...
Hebrews 3:12
New International Version
See to it, brothers and sisters,that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God.
New Living Translation
Be careful then, dear brothers and sisters. Make sure that your own hearts are not evil and unbelieving, turning you away from the living God.
English Standard Version
Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God.
Berean Study Bible
See to it, brothers, that none of you has a wicked heart of unbelief that turns away from the living God.
Berean Literal Bible
Take heed, brothers, lest ever there will be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, into falling away from the living God.
New American Standard Bible
Take care, brethren, that there not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God.
King James Bible
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.