10 Reasons Sin Confession Is Questionable!!!

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Lewiz

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It is for these reasons that we have total forgiveness. We are redeemed and forgiven of all sin. This does not mean we stop repenting, but it does mean that we no longer seek forgiveness from God because the Father has forgiven us for Christ's sake. We may express gratitude, worship, and praise to the Lord for His mercy and grace. Thank Him for the Gospel, that we are reconciled to God, forgiven, and our sins paid in full by the Son of God, Jesus Christ our Messiah.
Funny how I've been all over this thread & missed this, lol.

How can one continue to repent without seeking forgiveness when forgiveness from God is the only reason to repent in the first place?!?
 

Lewiz

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would it help if you stopped? Yeah it probably would, i do not know if your really new or someone who came back, but you need to start listening to people and see whats going on, you appologized a few days ago, so i have hope for you, can you stop for a minute and look?

You said i love and defend hypergrace, ask These so called hypergrace people how i defend them on the health and wealth issue. Can you do that? And seek truth? Or will you continue?
Health & wealth is a WOF doctrine. Not every HG is WOF.
 
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Ariel82

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Funny how I've been all over this thread & missed this, lol.

How can one continue to repent without seeking forgiveness when forgiveness from God is the only reason to repent in the first place?!?
I repent so I can learn how to stop sinning. I don't seek forgiveness....I just learn how to accept it.

There are more reasons to repent than just forgiveness....just as there is more reasons to do good then just avoid punishment.
 
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I repent so I can learn how to stop sinning. I don't seek forgiveness....I just learn how to accept it.

There are more reasons to repent than just forgiveness....just as there is more reasons to do good then just avoid punishment.
I repent because of the sorrow I feel in my heart that I allowed myself to be enticed and drawn away by some trivial bait. I turned from Father to the deceitful lust of my flesh.

The lusts of our flesh are deceitful because we think whatever is put before us is good for us when the opposite is true.

I would like to get to the point where I recognize the lust for what it is and I do not allow it to turn my eyes away from Father.


Psalm 91:

1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

2 I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler
 

Lewiz

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I repent so I can learn how to stop sinning. I don't seek forgiveness....I just learn how to accept it.

There are more reasons to repent than just forgiveness....just as there is more reasons to do good then just avoid punishment.
True enough..... but how many would repent if they thought no forgiveness existed for it?
 
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Ariel82

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True enough..... but how many would repent if they thought no forgiveness existed for it?
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The message is that God forgives you because of Jesus death on the cross....not because you repented but because He loves you enough to wash you clean.

You should repent, but the purpose is not to "earn" God's forgiveness. It is to listen to God and learn how not to repeat the same mistake again or because He convicts is of it (shows us what we need to change)

The statement is:
"because the Father has forgiven us for Christ's sake"
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Health & wealth is a WOF doctrine. Not every HG is WOF.

See you yave some smarts, now put it together,good use. And listen to what people are saying.
 

Nehemiah6

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You should repent, but the purpose is not to "earn" God's forgiveness. It is to listen to God and learn how not to repeat the same mistake again or because He convicts is of it (shows us what we need to change)
Why should both things not be true? And as a matter of fact, FORGIVENESS is primarily in view for Christians if we want to go strictly "by the book" (which has not been happening). So kindly pay close attention to the words of God, not man:

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

So when you said the purpose is not to "earn" God's forgiveness you may have been right because you used the wrong term. But if the purpose was to RECEIVE God's forgiveness, then this OP is a deliberate attempt to circumvent and subvert Scripture. And you too must revise your thinking.
 
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Ariel82

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Why should both things not be true? And as a matter of fact, FORGIVENESS is primarily in view for Christians if we want to go strictly "by the book" (which has not been happening). So kindly pay close attention to the words of God, not man:

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

So when you said the purpose is not to "earn" God's forgiveness you may have been right because you used the wrong term. But if the purpose was to RECEIVE God's forgiveness, then this OP is a deliberate attempt to circumvent and subvert Scripture. And you too must revise your thinking.
There is a difference between seeking God's forgiveness because we don't understand how Jesus died for our sins and by that we ARE forgiven....
.versus Seeking to Accept that God has truly forgiven us.

Yeah I read the scripture....just trying to move to the next part you dont highlight...

"to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

That is why we should repent.
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Is it so hard to admit you might have misunderstood the OP?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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True enough..... but how many would repent if they thought no forgiveness existed for it?
I think it would depend on what interpretation they use for repent.

for those who think we need to do it every time we sin, alot, for those who think we tepent once, we confess after, probably not many, (only those sins they did not know were sins before they would repent when they realised it.

But we all should confess, as God asks, no matter what we believe. So knowing it does not affect forgiveness should effect no one truely following christ,

 

BillG

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I think it would depend on what interpretation they use for repent.

for those who think we need to do it every time we sin, alot, for those who think we tepent once, we confess after, probably not many, (only those sins they did not know were sins before they would repent when they realised it.

But we all should confess, as God asks, no matter what we believe. So knowing it does not affect forgiveness should effect no one truely following christ,

Hi bro.

How are the eyes?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Hi bro.

How are the eyes?
find out tomorrow if I may have to have surgery again. Have ghost vision (double vision) that will not go away. Other than that great. Thanks for asking

 

BenFTW

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Looks like we've reached a consensus on the purpose of sin confession and how it is not a means of justification before God (on an eternal scale). Sanctification would be a good follow up topic, and how it is we believers walk in holiness and righteousness.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Looks like we've reached a consensus on the purpose of sin confession and how it is not a means of justification before God (on an eternal scale). Sanctification would be a good follow up topic, and how it is we believers walk in holiness and righteousness.
that would be a great addendum to not by works thread..

1 to show how we are saved (justification)

1 to show how a saved person grows in christ. (sanctification)