Jesus, King of the Jews

[Endoscopy]

Its nothing special for Nazis. US government, Russia, China etc are doing the same thing.

But we got into state affairs which is different from persons and propaganda in discussion.

Putting the US in the same category of Russia and China is disgusting. Here we have freedom of the press. There the press is controlled!!!

 

[JaumeJ]

Hello all.......I have been stuck away with a very long W10 update and install. I am going back to finesse it some (I Hope).

 

[posthuman]

Putting the US in the same category of Russia and China is disgusting. Here we have freedom of the press. There the press is controlled!!!

Yeah. Our press is free to propagandize. See fox news and msnbc for example.
Our press, being free, naturally corrects misinformation, but that doesn't matter when the people only consume news from insular sources. There's little crossover between the GOP and DNC media mouthpieces.
Our press is free and self corrects, but even in that, when lies are repeated enough and the public insulates its information intake, the public is happily deceived regardless. Why do we have a president now who flagrantly and habitually lies about trivial things, daily, yet approximately half the citizenry seems unaware or worse, doesn't seem to care? Have anything to do with propaganda principles? Hmm.

 

[trofimus]

Putting the US in the same category of Russia and China is disgusting. Here we have freedom of the press. There the press is controlled!!!

As you wish...

Would you start a war in Iraq if your media were saying "Saddam Hussain has no weapons of mass destruction"?

Propaganda is there, if you want it or not. Its the same in the EU and everywhere.

 

[trofimus]

Our press is free

Free in the meaning "not directly owned by state". Its not free in the meaning "it can write whatever is right and truth", there are other powerful rich owners in the background, having their agenda, frequently also connected to politics.

 

[CS1]

Why do so many believe Jesus Christ was teacing and spreding His gospel in Greek?


It is possible He spoke in Greek, but very doubtful since had the hypocrites heard Him
teaching the Hebrew Word in Greek they would have stoned Him.

Yes there are many, perhaps most, manuscripts in K. Greek, but where did they come
from since the first believers for about a centurey were taught from the Hebrew writings,
that is the Torah, the Prophets, and the Writings,.


It would be like studying the founding fathers of the US or any given country in a foreign
tongue, say Chinese....

I believe much was destroyed by the Roman leaders due to their own anti-semetism.

It seem to me a very large persentage of people who balk at our Hebrew forfathers and history
are nothing more or less than being anti-semites.

No you do not need to read Hebrew or dress like some over zealous Rabbinically taught Jew, but at
the same time o not deny Jesus, Yeshua.

After all when it comes down to it, Jew as Judah may be translated as a praiser of God, and there cannot
be anything wrong with this.

No one is able to say with anything approaching certainty that all of the New Testament was written in Greek exclusively,
except perhaps the letters of Paul, and even that is not 100%.

If you do not like Jesus having walked the earth as a Jew, then you probably do not believe much of what He teaches.

I'm not sure but this thread seems a little unfounded maybe. The Gospel is for all to the JEWS first then to the greeks. Jesus is God there is not a language He did not know.

 

[JaumeJ]

The op and thread point to Jesus Christ as being All. When Pontius Pilate ordered the inscription "King of the Jews" beplaced over our Savior' Head, he was prophesying unawares. As for God and His language, He knows all languages, but this truth has no bearing on Christ being King of the Jews for this means He is King of all who praise God......If yo get huingu up on Judaism when you hear what this means you are not understanding the true and wonderful gravity of this.

It is saying Jesus Christ is King of all Who love God.

I'm not sure but this thread seems a little unfounded maybe. The Gospel is for all to the JEWS first then to the greeks. Jesus is God there is not a language He did not know.

 

[graceNpeace]

The op and thread point to Jesus Christ as being All. When Pontius Pilate ordered the inscription "King of the Jews" beplaced over our Savior' Head, he was prophesying unawares. As for God and His language, He knows all languages, but this truth has no bearing on Christ being King of the Jews for this means He is King of all who praise God......If yo get huingu up on Judaism when you hear what this means you are not understanding the true and wonderful gravity of this.

It is saying Jesus Christ is King of all Who love God.

So, according to you the only people God loves are Jews - this is the unmistakeable conclusion you are drawing...

Very different from the Abrahamic covenant....

 

[JaumeJ]

Just a thought, no one ever seems to have a problem when a brother or sister expands on the meaning of text from the Greek, but just the mention of Hebrew or Israel and people show their colors immediately.

At best all who claim to beliee should be at least neutral on the subject of Hebrew influencing the Word, but no, those who are into the Greek freak..........

All should allow true elaboration from the Hebrew for our forfathers are Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the spirit.

The op and thread point to Jesus Christ as being All. When Pontius Pilate ordered the inscription "King of the Jews" beplaced over our Savior' Head, he was prophesying unawares. As for God and His language, He knows all languages, but this truth has no bearing on Christ being King of the Jews for this means He is King of all who praise God......If yo get huingu up on Judaism when you hear what this means you are not understanding the true and wonderful gravity of this.

It is saying Jesus Christ is King of all Who love God.

 

[graceNpeace]

Just a thought, no one ever seems to have a problem when a brother or sister expands on the meaning of text from the Greek, but just the mention of Hebrew or Israel and people show their colors immediately.

At best all who claim to beliee should be at least neutral on the subject of Hebrew influencing the Word, but no, those who are into the Greek freak..........

All should allow true elaboration from the Hebrew for our forfathers are Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the spirit.

This excuse is getting weary - if someone disagrees with you then they must be anti-Semitic....

 

[Endoscopy]

Yeah. Our press is free to propagandize. See fox news and msnbc for example.
Our press, being free, naturally corrects misinformation, but that doesn't matter when the people only consume news from insular sources. There's little crossover between the GOP and DNC media mouthpieces.
Our press is free and self corrects, but even in that, when lies are repeated enough and the public insulates its information intake, the public is happily deceived regardless. Why do we have a president now who flagrantly and habitually lies about trivial things, daily, yet approximately half the citizenry seems unaware or worse, doesn't seem to care? Have anything to do with propaganda principles? Hmm.

I remember when the Huntly Brinkley report was on one channel and Cronkite was on another channel. It was news without editorializing it. Then the slow transition away from just the information started after them, FOX attempts to go back to that with the policy of "just the facts you decide". Of course the far leftwing progressive moonbat morons detest this. The rest of the MSM is progressive Democrat biased. Even so the results of the elections prove the public sees through it,

President Republican
Congress Republican
36 states governors and legislatures Republican
6 states Democrat
8 states mixed coming from Democrat

 

[JaumeJ]

It seems to me Walter Cronkite, probably the best US new anchor ever, did give editorial opinions but never did he reveal in his work what his political leanings were. This made him a brilliant newsman/anchor. People listened to this man very closely.

I remember when the Huntly Brinkley report was on one channel and Cronkite was on another channel. It was news without editorializing it. Then the slow transition away from just the information started after them, FOX attempts to go back to that with the policy of "just the facts you decide". Of course the far leftwing progressive moonbat morons detest this. The rest of the MSM is progressive Democrat biased. Even so the results of the elections prove the public sees through it,

President Republican
Congress Republican
36 states governors and legislatures Republican
6 states Democrat
8 states mixed coming from Democrat

 

[Endoscopy]

It seems to me Walter Cronkite, probably the best US new anchor ever, did give editorial opinions but never did he reveal in his work what his political leanings were. This made him a brilliant newsman/anchor. People listened to this man very closely.

He never gave his liberal views on the news shows. He guarded that secret. He didn't want to make it taint his reputation of unbiased news. Contrary to the news done today. The concept of who, what, when, where, how, and why only method went out the widow after he and the others like him left the air. I Remember watching them.

 

[JaumeJ]

Cronky was always neutral on current events......He did editorialize, that is he expanded on all topics other than political views.

It was only after he retired that he began to reveal his true leanings.......and that is commendable.

He never gave his liberal views on the news shows. He guarded that secret. He didn't want to make it taint his reputation of unbiased news. Contrary to the news done today. The concept of who, what, when, where, how, and why only method went out the widow after he and the others like him left the air. I Remember watching them.

 

[JaumeJ]

2Co 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

2Co 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.

2Co 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

 

[graceNpeace]

2Co 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

2Co 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.

2Co 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

If you cannot see that these verses apply to NON-CHRISTIAN JEWS, then no-one can help you...

 

[Endoscopy]

If you cannot see that these verses apply to NON-CHRISTIAN JEWS, then no-one can help you...

While literally true you ignore the fact that atheists ignore the facts that archaeological digs prove the history of Genesis is 100% accurate, scientific laws prove big bang evolution false, and out of place artifacts prove new earth as opposed to billions of years. Thus the verses are applicable to today in this regard.

Your own advice.
If you can't see this then no one can help you!!

 

[JaumeJ]

All must pay close attention to the tenses and the situations of having the veil.....it is not reading Moses for the Jews after Christ, the blinding is under Moses and afterwards.

If the blinding were not there then, they would have seen what I see, mercy and love in the law, previous and since Jesus christ made most of them no longer viable...........You cannot see this if you have the veil over your eyes.

YOu cannot see this if you do not understand the law from the one covenant through and including the new covenant.

2Co 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

2Co 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.

2Co 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

 

[Endoscopy]

All must pay close attention to the tenses and the situations of having the veil.....it is not reading Moses for the Jews after Christ, the blinding is under Moses and afterwards.

If the blinding were not there then, they would have seen what I see, mercy and love in the law, previous and since Jesus christ made most of them no longer viable...........You cannot see this if you have the veil over your eyes.

YOu cannot see this if you do not understand the law from the one covenant through and including the new covenant.

Covenant theory has its flaws. It ignores the imutability of God. He never changes. He is the same yesterday, today, and tomarrow. He has never ever changed his mind Therefore all "covenants" are a continuation of His will. They were made in order to allow man to see His will.

 

[trofimus]

Covenant theory has its flaws. It ignores the imutability of God. He never changes. He is the same yesterday, today, and tomarrow. He has never ever changed his mind Therefore all "covenants" are a continuation of His will. They were made in order to allow man to see His will.

A change of covenant is not a change of God. Its a change of season.