WHO IS THE SON OF DAVID
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Dear friend,
There was a man named David (Ruth 4:22), who became king and was anointed by God through the prophet Samuel (1 Samuel 16:13). Later after already being king he was promised by God a covenant (2 Samuel 7:12-16) and this was the promise of the Messiah also known as Jesus the Christ to come. See now David and Jesus had no blood connection through family but was related through marriage through Joseph's side of the family. Jesus would be taking the throne of David and becoming the new King of the new Jerusalem which the Father has prepared (Revelation 21:2).
Now let us not forget what the word Son means. In the old Hebrew language the Son was used for relationship in family like wise. Since they did not have the word grandson or grandfather in the Hebrew language it was used as grandson and grandfather in present tense. If I would say in Hebrew "I am the grandson of Bruce" It would come out to be "I the son of Bruce" in the Hebrew context or language. (Romans 1:3) (2 Timothy 2:8)
So if the word Son can mean Grandson or ancestorly son then Jesus was the Son of David. But wait David was still not blood related to Jesus, because Jesus has a divine side of Him that is the creator of David (Psalms 1:6). So how can David have the Creator as a son. Even Jesus shows us how He could not be called the son of David (Matthew 22:42-45)(Psalms 110).
Shalom and God bless
There was a man named David (Ruth 4:22), who became king and was anointed by God through the prophet Samuel (1 Samuel 16:13). Later after already being king he was promised by God a covenant (2 Samuel 7:12-16) and this was the promise of the Messiah also known as Jesus the Christ to come. See now David and Jesus had no blood connection through family but was related through marriage through Joseph's side of the family. Jesus would be taking the throne of David and becoming the new King of the new Jerusalem which the Father has prepared (Revelation 21:2).
Now let us not forget what the word Son means. In the old Hebrew language the Son was used for relationship in family like wise. Since they did not have the word grandson or grandfather in the Hebrew language it was used as grandson and grandfather in present tense. If I would say in Hebrew "I am the grandson of Bruce" It would come out to be "I the son of Bruce" in the Hebrew context or language. (Romans 1:3) (2 Timothy 2:8)
So if the word Son can mean Grandson or ancestorly son then Jesus was the Son of David. But wait David was still not blood related to Jesus, because Jesus has a divine side of Him that is the creator of David (Psalms 1:6). So how can David have the Creator as a son. Even Jesus shows us how He could not be called the son of David (Matthew 22:42-45)(Psalms 110).
Shalom and God bless
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This is from the other thread "Is Jesus God, or the Son of God".
In the Old Testament, the Christ is called "the son of David", in reference to the declaration of God, as we are told,
" 'And your house and your kingdom shall be established forever before you. Your throne shall be established forever.’ ” (2 Sam 7:16)
Jesus himself brings this up to the scribes, referencing the Scripture,
A Psalm of David. The Lord said to my Lord,“Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” (Ps 110:1)
35*Then Jesus answered and said, while He taught in the temple, “How is it that the scribes say that the Christ is the Son of David?
36*For David himself said by the Holy Spirit:
‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’
37*Therefore David himself calls Him ‘Lord’ ; how is He then his Son?”
And the common people heard Him gladly. (Mk 12:35-37)
The answer is that the son of David, Jesus, is BOTH Lord and Son. For God speaks through his servant David of Himself, God the Son, who shall sit on an eternal throne as a son of David. .
How can the Lord God, not born of man, be spoken of as a descendant of David? Isaiah tells us, "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel. (Is 7:14)
"Immanuel" which being interpreted is "God with us".
God as both Father and Son!!
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The Universal Rule: The one that makes the universe makes the rules.
In the Old Testament, the Christ is called "the son of David", in reference to the declaration of God, as we are told,
" 'And your house and your kingdom shall be established forever before you. Your throne shall be established forever.’ ” (2 Sam 7:16)
Jesus himself brings this up to the scribes, referencing the Scripture,
A Psalm of David. The Lord said to my Lord,“Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” (Ps 110:1)
35*Then Jesus answered and said, while He taught in the temple, “How is it that the scribes say that the Christ is the Son of David?
36*For David himself said by the Holy Spirit:
‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’
37*Therefore David himself calls Him ‘Lord’ ; how is He then his Son?”
And the common people heard Him gladly. (Mk 12:35-37)
The answer is that the son of David, Jesus, is BOTH Lord and Son. For God speaks through his servant David of Himself, God the Son, who shall sit on an eternal throne as a son of David. .
How can the Lord God, not born of man, be spoken of as a descendant of David? Isaiah tells us, "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel. (Is 7:14)
"Immanuel" which being interpreted is "God with us".
God as both Father and Son!!
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The Universal Rule: The one that makes the universe makes the rules.
I BELIEVE AND KNOW THAT MARY IS ALSO OF THE TRIBE OF DAVID, IT IS ONLY THAT THEY NEVER
GO BY THE WOMEN, ONLY MEN.
BUT YOU ARE AVOIDING THE SCR, THAT I HAVE QUOTED,REV.22:16. I AM THE ROOT AND THE OFFSPRING OF DAVID? IF JESUS IS GOD, THAN, IS GOD THE THE ROOT OF DAVID.HOW CAN YOU
CLEAR UP THIS CONFUSION THAT THE CHR. WORLD HAS CREATED,BECAUSE OF , LACK OF KNOWLEDGE, DUE TO A DIET OF MILK CONTINUESLY. AND STILL HASNT GROWN SPIRITUALY.
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Whoa buddy hold on.....where in the scriptures does it say that Mary was in the blood line of David. There in the gospel was called the genealogy of Joseph not Mary. Man you need to calm down and take a breather brother. Now friend do we actually know Mary was related to David, no and what it is saying He is from the linage of David but if you study it He really is not blood related.
Just trying to answer or give something about your question friend
GOD bless brother and take care
Just trying to answer or give something about your question friend
GOD bless brother and take care
Luke 1:32
.........and the Lord God (FATHER) will GIVE unto Him (Jesus) the THRONE of His father DAVID.
HOW could this be so? This word "father David" is meaning HUMAN BLOOD LINEAGE.
Hebrews 7:14
For it is EVIDENT that our Lord sprang OUT of Judah; of which tribe Moses spoke nothing of priesthood.
Since Joseph did not impregnate Mary, then for that link to Judah to stand, there is only ONE possible explanation....Mary herself was from that tribe Judah.
Lets look closer at Matt 22:43 ....How then doth David IN SPIRIT call Him Lord?
IN SPIRIT !!!! This is not talking of mortal lineage here, but of Spiritual Lineage...That is, that Christ is ABOVE David. And SPIRITUALLY descended DIRECTLY from the Father....the second Adam created DIRECTLY by God. His flesh being created by the Word of the Father, commanding that holy sperm into existence and grafted into the lineage of Judah through the joining of that Holy sperm to the egg of a human woman Mary, herself belonging to that tribe Judah...for Mary went through every stage of pregnancy just like any other woman...
Hebrews 2:16-17
v16: For verily He took not on Him the nature of angels, but He took on Him the SEED of Abraham.
v17: Wherefore in ALL things it behoved Him to be MADE like unto His BRETHREN (mankind).......
Jesus had to be HUMAN ALSO to fulfill ALL prophecy. It is what is INSIDE of Him that is of Godly lineage....
Is God the Father from the SEED of Abraham now?
Trinity makes more questions that just never get fully answered in harmony with ALL scripture....this is ALWAYS an indication of ERROR in doctrine.
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In Jewish lore, I believe, King David was credited with being the greatest king in Jewish history. He is generally thought to have consolidated the power of Israel and Judah and ushered in a "golden age" where Jews were real players on the world stage. He was also close to God. Acts 13, verse 22, says After removing Saul, he made David their king. God testified concerning him: ‘I have found David son of Jesse, a man after my own heart; he will do everything I want him to do.’"
During his reign, God made a covenant with David that a descendant of his would always occupy the throne. The last of his line was Christ, himself. “From this man’s descendants God has brought to Israel the Savior Jesus, as he promised." (Acts 13:23) Matthew 1 traces the lineage all the way from Abraham to Jesus. According to his report, there were 42 generations from Abraham to Jesus. "Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Messiah." (Matthew 1:17)
Thus, I believe that Jesus was the "son of David" referred to in Scripture. Jews of the day referred to him as that. "When he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to shout, 'Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!'”. (Mark 10:47) That was simply a reference to his lineage. But Jesus himself said this was erroneous. In Mark 12, verses 35 through 37, He said "While Jesus was teaching in the temple courts, he asked, “Why do the teachers of the law say that the Messiah is the son of David? David himself, speaking by the Holy Spirit, declared: “‘The Lord said to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand
until I put your enemies
under your feet.”’
David himself calls him ‘Lord.’ How then can he be his son?”
I believe that Jesus had to call himself the Son of God in order for people living in His day to grasp His significance. If He had come out and said "I am God" nobody would have believed Him.
So while He answered to "Son of David", He called Himself "Son of God".
During his reign, God made a covenant with David that a descendant of his would always occupy the throne. The last of his line was Christ, himself. “From this man’s descendants God has brought to Israel the Savior Jesus, as he promised." (Acts 13:23) Matthew 1 traces the lineage all the way from Abraham to Jesus. According to his report, there were 42 generations from Abraham to Jesus. "Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Messiah." (Matthew 1:17)
Thus, I believe that Jesus was the "son of David" referred to in Scripture. Jews of the day referred to him as that. "When he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to shout, 'Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!'”. (Mark 10:47) That was simply a reference to his lineage. But Jesus himself said this was erroneous. In Mark 12, verses 35 through 37, He said "While Jesus was teaching in the temple courts, he asked, “Why do the teachers of the law say that the Messiah is the son of David? David himself, speaking by the Holy Spirit, declared: “‘The Lord said to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand
until I put your enemies
under your feet.”’
David himself calls him ‘Lord.’ How then can he be his son?”
I believe that Jesus had to call himself the Son of God in order for people living in His day to grasp His significance. If He had come out and said "I am God" nobody would have believed Him.
So while He answered to "Son of David", He called Himself "Son of God".
Friend,
Wakeup is saying that God the Father can NEVER be likened to a MAN in any way shape or form. For He is the creator of MAN. Jesus however IS of that lineage of men. Because Jesus is not God the Father. It is what was PUT INTO Jesus that is from the Father. This does not make Jesus the Father, but made that essence that comes from the Father IN Him that link. And what was put into Jesus? What "essence"? Well, the Fathers Word was put into Him.
And how does that Word interact with Jesus' OWN SOUL? James gives insight:
1:21
.........and receive with meekness the ENGRAFTED WORD, which is able to save your souls.
Though this is not directly speaking of Jesus, it is showing us a PROCESS. We see TWO spirits becoming ONE within men. A mans OWN spirit and that which is GRAFTED to JOIN with our own spirit. Notice John 6:63 ? That WORD is SPIRIT...the Holy Spirit. And it comes FROM the Father, NOT from Jesus. Note John 15:26...the COMFORTER....Jesus ASKS His Father to SEND IT.....and where does this comforter come from? Well, it PROCEEDS from the Father...that is, comes out from WITHIN the Father. And that Word/Spirit is dividable and endless, that is, it never depletes nor needs refilling and can dwell in trillions of individuals. And whenever we read it said, this Spirit comes from Jesus...we cannot forget this: ALL that is the Father's is Mine, and all that is Mine is the Father's, this is why i say to you it is Mine !!!! They SHARE...HOW? because...Jesus INHERITED !!!!!
People hear it said, Word of God, and all they see is Jesus, but not the other TRUE meaning. And that is that the Holy Spirit (Word) dwells within the Father and is ALIVE. And obeys every command the Father "visualizes" making those visualizations reality. It is the WORKER of His will. His power. And that exact "unit" of essence that was used to create everything, was kept separate, THAT separate kept aside 'essence' that created everything was He from the OT which was "beside" the Father....WAITING to become ONE with He who was ordained from the beginning to become One with "it" all along....think of Melchizedek...he was PURE WORD... and THAT same individual Word essence became ONE with Jesus...and with the addition of Jesus own soul joined with that Word, a NEW priesthood emerged...but its origin remained the Same. And that origin was from God, from within God, that same individual Spirit essence that was kept aside, now received NEW "information" (in a genetic sense of language) when JOINED with Jesus...so now the priesthood is COMPLETED in its ALTERATION...not replacement in the true sense, but replacement resulting from the alteration or completion.
Wakeup is saying that God the Father can NEVER be likened to a MAN in any way shape or form. For He is the creator of MAN. Jesus however IS of that lineage of men. Because Jesus is not God the Father. It is what was PUT INTO Jesus that is from the Father. This does not make Jesus the Father, but made that essence that comes from the Father IN Him that link. And what was put into Jesus? What "essence"? Well, the Fathers Word was put into Him.
And how does that Word interact with Jesus' OWN SOUL? James gives insight:
1:21
.........and receive with meekness the ENGRAFTED WORD, which is able to save your souls.
Though this is not directly speaking of Jesus, it is showing us a PROCESS. We see TWO spirits becoming ONE within men. A mans OWN spirit and that which is GRAFTED to JOIN with our own spirit. Notice John 6:63 ? That WORD is SPIRIT...the Holy Spirit. And it comes FROM the Father, NOT from Jesus. Note John 15:26...the COMFORTER....Jesus ASKS His Father to SEND IT.....and where does this comforter come from? Well, it PROCEEDS from the Father...that is, comes out from WITHIN the Father. And that Word/Spirit is dividable and endless, that is, it never depletes nor needs refilling and can dwell in trillions of individuals. And whenever we read it said, this Spirit comes from Jesus...we cannot forget this: ALL that is the Father's is Mine, and all that is Mine is the Father's, this is why i say to you it is Mine !!!! They SHARE...HOW? because...Jesus INHERITED !!!!!
People hear it said, Word of God, and all they see is Jesus, but not the other TRUE meaning. And that is that the Holy Spirit (Word) dwells within the Father and is ALIVE. And obeys every command the Father "visualizes" making those visualizations reality. It is the WORKER of His will. His power. And that exact "unit" of essence that was used to create everything, was kept separate, THAT separate kept aside 'essence' that created everything was He from the OT which was "beside" the Father....WAITING to become ONE with He who was ordained from the beginning to become One with "it" all along....think of Melchizedek...he was PURE WORD... and THAT same individual Word essence became ONE with Jesus...and with the addition of Jesus own soul joined with that Word, a NEW priesthood emerged...but its origin remained the Same. And that origin was from God, from within God, that same individual Spirit essence that was kept aside, now received NEW "information" (in a genetic sense of language) when JOINED with Jesus...so now the priesthood is COMPLETED in its ALTERATION...not replacement in the true sense, but replacement resulting from the alteration or completion.
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......And since that grafting was completed by God the Fathers direct intervention, at Christs resurrection...when the two Spirits within Him (His own soul & the grafted Word) BECAME permanently ONE....everything that that "kept aside" Word ever did...well NOW Jesus did too...for they became ONE....NOW it is TRUE...Jesus did indeed create everything as is written...for he became ONE with what was in Him...just technically speaking...there was a point of joining where that Word "wasn't" Jesus YET...But NOW we see through that joining...a UNIFIED endless LOOP in eternal progress.
This is why we never hear of that "other" presence with God of which was mentioned so many times in the OT, we never hear it NAMED, just TITLED....ALSO we never hear of it in the NT ???? NOT ONCE !!!!...because that individual "LIVING essence" was put into Jesus, and it was found no longer in heaven..but in a man walking in this earth...and that man was the second Adam...the creature Jesus. This is why Jesus mentioned so often that His Father was IN Him...that essence that came from the Father, so it is still of the Father and can legally be described as the Father also. For without the Father, there would be NO Essence/Spirit/Word....so they MUST be described as Him for they proceeded from Him.
Regards
Devolution.
This is why we never hear of that "other" presence with God of which was mentioned so many times in the OT, we never hear it NAMED, just TITLED....ALSO we never hear of it in the NT ???? NOT ONCE !!!!...because that individual "LIVING essence" was put into Jesus, and it was found no longer in heaven..but in a man walking in this earth...and that man was the second Adam...the creature Jesus. This is why Jesus mentioned so often that His Father was IN Him...that essence that came from the Father, so it is still of the Father and can legally be described as the Father also. For without the Father, there would be NO Essence/Spirit/Word....so they MUST be described as Him for they proceeded from Him.
Regards
Devolution.
Well if you think about it, Joseph's sperm did not impregnate Mary. The scriptures say that Jesus is from the lineage of David. So Mary must be from the lineage of David. It is physical as well. Jesus the physical man is from the lineage of David, of the tribe of Judah (Rev 22:16) Jesus said it himself.
How can we argue about that?
Regards
Journey
Hi Journey
Matthew 1:6 says that Jesus was the son ofDavid through SOLOMON, but Luke 3:31 says that he (Jesus) was the son of David through NATHAN. Both family tree goes through Joseph.
The scribes of Luke and Matthew were falling over themselves trying to link Jesus to David pbut that they forgot that Jesus has no link to Joseph.
Matthew 1:6 says that Jesus was the son ofDavid through SOLOMON, but Luke 3:31 says that he (Jesus) was the son of David through NATHAN. Both family tree goes through Joseph.
The scribes of Luke and Matthew were falling over themselves trying to link Jesus to David pbut that they forgot that Jesus has no link to Joseph.
The Genealogy of Jesus Christ
JESUS CHRIST THE MAN & GOD (King and Priest)....THROUGH MARY
(Father is GOD, Jesus is Son of God, King and Priest)
LUKE 3
The Genealogy of Jesus Christ
23 Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli, 24 the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Jannai, the son of Joseph, 25 the son of Mattathias, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Naggai, 26 the son of Maath, the son of Mattathias, the son of Semein, the son of Josech, the son of Joda, 27 the son of Joanan, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel,e the son of Neri, 28 the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elmadam, the son of Er, 29 the son of Joshua, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, 30 the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonam, the son of Eliakim, 31 the son of Melea, the son of Menna, the son of Mattatha, the son of Nathan, the son of David, 32 the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, the son of Sala, the son of Nahshon, 33 the son of Amminadab, the son of Admin, the son of Arni, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, 34 the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, 35 the son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, 36 the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, 37 the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalaleel, the son of Cainan, 38 the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
this is MARY'S GENEOLOGY
therefore: Jesus is both King and Priest through Mary entitled to The Throne (Key) of David by human descent (as well as Aaronic Line BY Mary)
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JESUS CHRIST (King)....THROUGH adoption by JOSEPH
Matthew 1
The Genealogy of Jesus Christ
1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
2 Abraham was the father of Isaac, and Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, 3 and Judah the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar, and Perez the father of Hezron, and Hezron the father of Ram,a 4 and Ram the father of Amminadab, and Amminadab the father of Nahshon, and Nahshon the father of Salmon, 5 and Salmon the father of Boaz by Rahab, and Boaz the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse, 6 and Jesse the father of David the king.
And David was the father of Solomon by the wife of Uriah, 7 and Solomon the father of Rehoboam, and Rehoboam the father of Abijah, and Abijah the father of Asaph,b 8 and Asaph the father of Jehoshaphat, and Jehoshaphat the father of Joram, and Joram the father of Uzziah, 9 and Uzziah the father of Jotham, and Jotham the father of Ahaz, and Ahaz the father of Hezekiah, 10 and Hezekiah the father of Manasseh, and Manasseh the father of Amos,c and Amos the father of Josiah, 11 and Josiah the father of Jechoniah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon.
12 And after the deportation to Babylon: Jechoniah was the father of Shealtiel,d and Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel, 13 and Zerubbabel the father of Abiud, and Abiud the father of Eliakim, and Eliakim the father of Azor, 14 and Azor the father of Zadok, and Zadok the father of Achim, and Achim the father of Eliud, 15 and Eliud the father of Eleazar, and Eleazar the father of Matthan, and Matthan the father of Jacob, 16 and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.
17 So all the generations from Abraham to David were fourteen generations, and from David to the deportation to Babylon fourteen generations, and from the deportation to Babylon to the Christ fourteen generations.
this is JOSEPH'S GENEOLOGY
therefore:
Jesus is both King and Priest through Mary entitled to The Throne (Key) of David by human descent (as well as Aaronic Line BY Mary - Luke 3), AND fully entitled to the Throne of David by ADOPTION by Jospeh who ALSO came through David, though by Solomon, not Nathan.
JESUS CHRIST THE MAN & GOD (King and Priest)....THROUGH MARY
(Father is GOD, Jesus is Son of God, King and Priest)
LUKE 3
The Genealogy of Jesus Christ
23 Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli, 24 the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Jannai, the son of Joseph, 25 the son of Mattathias, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Naggai, 26 the son of Maath, the son of Mattathias, the son of Semein, the son of Josech, the son of Joda, 27 the son of Joanan, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel,e the son of Neri, 28 the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elmadam, the son of Er, 29 the son of Joshua, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, 30 the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonam, the son of Eliakim, 31 the son of Melea, the son of Menna, the son of Mattatha, the son of Nathan, the son of David, 32 the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, the son of Sala, the son of Nahshon, 33 the son of Amminadab, the son of Admin, the son of Arni, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, 34 the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, 35 the son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, 36 the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, 37 the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalaleel, the son of Cainan, 38 the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
this is MARY'S GENEOLOGY
therefore: Jesus is both King and Priest through Mary entitled to The Throne (Key) of David by human descent (as well as Aaronic Line BY Mary)
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JESUS CHRIST (King)....THROUGH adoption by JOSEPH
Matthew 1
The Genealogy of Jesus Christ
1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
2 Abraham was the father of Isaac, and Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, 3 and Judah the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar, and Perez the father of Hezron, and Hezron the father of Ram,a 4 and Ram the father of Amminadab, and Amminadab the father of Nahshon, and Nahshon the father of Salmon, 5 and Salmon the father of Boaz by Rahab, and Boaz the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse, 6 and Jesse the father of David the king.
And David was the father of Solomon by the wife of Uriah, 7 and Solomon the father of Rehoboam, and Rehoboam the father of Abijah, and Abijah the father of Asaph,b 8 and Asaph the father of Jehoshaphat, and Jehoshaphat the father of Joram, and Joram the father of Uzziah, 9 and Uzziah the father of Jotham, and Jotham the father of Ahaz, and Ahaz the father of Hezekiah, 10 and Hezekiah the father of Manasseh, and Manasseh the father of Amos,c and Amos the father of Josiah, 11 and Josiah the father of Jechoniah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon.
12 And after the deportation to Babylon: Jechoniah was the father of Shealtiel,d and Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel, 13 and Zerubbabel the father of Abiud, and Abiud the father of Eliakim, and Eliakim the father of Azor, 14 and Azor the father of Zadok, and Zadok the father of Achim, and Achim the father of Eliud, 15 and Eliud the father of Eleazar, and Eleazar the father of Matthan, and Matthan the father of Jacob, 16 and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.
17 So all the generations from Abraham to David were fourteen generations, and from David to the deportation to Babylon fourteen generations, and from the deportation to Babylon to the Christ fourteen generations.
this is JOSEPH'S GENEOLOGY
therefore:
Jesus is both King and Priest through Mary entitled to The Throne (Key) of David by human descent (as well as Aaronic Line BY Mary - Luke 3), AND fully entitled to the Throne of David by ADOPTION by Jospeh who ALSO came through David, though by Solomon, not Nathan.
one BIG reason is if we really care about getting the truth to the jews, WE have to understand Jesus' geneology.
the geneology is one of the "scriptural requirements concerning the Messiah" where they go off the rails.
we're CHRISTIANS...we're supposed to be able to present the Truth. if many of us think Jesus came physically through Solomon (which God decreed would NOT happen), how can we help anyone else see?
Jewish messianism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Scriptural requirements
Most of the scriptural requirements concerning the Messiah, what he will do, and what will be done during his reign are located in the Book of Isaiah, although requirements are mentioned by other prophets as well.
the geneology is one of the "scriptural requirements concerning the Messiah" where they go off the rails.
we're CHRISTIANS...we're supposed to be able to present the Truth. if many of us think Jesus came physically through Solomon (which God decreed would NOT happen), how can we help anyone else see?
Jewish messianism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Scriptural requirements
Most of the scriptural requirements concerning the Messiah, what he will do, and what will be done during his reign are located in the Book of Isaiah, although requirements are mentioned by other prophets as well.
- Isaiah 1:26: "And I will restore your judges as at first and your counsellors as in the beginning; afterwards you shall be called City of Righteousness, Faithful City." Some Jews interpret this to mean that the Sanhedrin will be re-established. (Isaiah 1:26)
- Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
- The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:11-17)
- He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via Solomon (1 Chronicles 22:8-10, 2 Chronicles 7:18)
- The "spirit of the Lord" will be upon him, and he will have a "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
- Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
- Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
- He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
- All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
- Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
- There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
- All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
- The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
- He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
- Nations will recognize the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
- The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
- The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
- Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
- The people of Israel will have direct access to the Torah through their minds and Torah study will become the study of the wisdom of the heart (Jeremiah 31:33)[2]
- He will give you all the worthy desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
- He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)
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Just came across this article; I'll have to look into each more, but I think it outlines the historical outlooks (some of which are described above) very well and is a good place to start.
Bible Commentary: Matt. 1:1-17; Luke 3:23b-38 - Jesus' Genealogy
Bible Commentary: Matt. 1:1-17; Luke 3:23b-38 - Jesus' Genealogy