Jesus Christ was God manifest in the Flesh
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1510 eimí (the basic Greek verb which expresses being, i.e. "to be") – am, is. 1510 (eimí), and its counterparts, (properly) convey "straight-forward" being (existence, i.e. without explicit limits).
1510 /eimí ("is, am") – in the present tense, indicative mood – can be time-inclusive ("omnitemporal," like the Hebrew imperfect tense). Only the context indicates whether the present tense also has "timeless" implications. For example, 1510 (eimí) is aptly used in Christ's great "I am" (ego eimi . . . ) that also include His eternality (self-existent life) as our life, bread, light," etc. See Jn 7:34, 8:58, etc.
Example: Jn 14:6: "I am (1510 /eimí) the way, the truth and the life." Here 1510 (eimí) naturally accords with the fact Christ is eternal – maning "I am (was, will be)." The "I am formula (Gk egō eimi)" harks back to God's only name, "Yahweh" (OT/3068, "the lord") – meaning "He who always was, is, and will be." Compare Jn 8:58 with Ex 3:14. See also Rev 4:8 and 2962 /kýrios ("Lord").
1510 /eimí ("is, am") – in the present tense, indicative mood – can be time-inclusive ("omnitemporal," like the Hebrew imperfect tense). Only the context indicates whether the present tense also has "timeless" implications. For example, 1510 (eimí) is aptly used in Christ's great "I am" (ego eimi . . . ) that also include His eternality (self-existent life) as our life, bread, light," etc. See Jn 7:34, 8:58, etc.
Example: Jn 14:6: "I am (1510 /eimí) the way, the truth and the life." Here 1510 (eimí) naturally accords with the fact Christ is eternal – maning "I am (was, will be)." The "I am formula (Gk egō eimi)" harks back to God's only name, "Yahweh" (OT/3068, "the lord") – meaning "He who always was, is, and will be." Compare Jn 8:58 with Ex 3:14. See also Rev 4:8 and 2962 /kýrios ("Lord").
sigh.
what a drag.
Judges 6
The Call of Gideon
11 Now the angel of the Lord came and sat under the terebinth at Ophrah, which belonged to Joash the Abiezrite, while his son Gideon was beating out wheat in the winepress to hide it from the Midianites. 12 And the angel of the Lord appeared to him and said to him, “The Lord is with you, O mighty man of valor.” 13 And Gideon said to him, “Please, sir,a if the Lord is with us, why then has all this happened to us? And where are all his wonderful deeds that our fathers recounted to us, saying, ‘Did not the Lord bring us up from Egypt?’ But now the Lord has forsaken us and given us into the hand of Midian.” 14 And the Lord (3068. Yhvh) turned to him and said, “Go in this might of yours and save Israel from the hand of Midian; do not I send you?” 15 And he said to him, “Please, Lord (136. Adonay), how can I save Israel? Behold, my clan is the weakest in Manasseh, and I am the least in my father’s house.” 16 And the Lord said to him, “But I will be with you, and you shall strike the Midianites as one man.” 17 And he said to him, “If now I have found favor in your eyes, then show me a sign that it is you who speak with me. 18 Please do not depart from here until I come to you and bring out my present and set it before you.” And he said, “I will stay till you return.”
Transliteration: Yhvh
Phonetic Spelling: (yeh-ho-vaw')
Short Definition: LORD
And the LORD
Yhovah (yeh-ho-vaw')
(the) self-Existent or Eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God -- Jehovah, the Lord.
Original Word: אֲדֹנָי
Transliteration: Adonay
Phonetic Spelling: (ad-o-noy')
Short Definition: Lord
Lord
Am emphatic form of 'adown; the Lord (used as a proper name of God only) -- (my) Lord.
what a drag.
Judges 6
The Call of Gideon
11 Now the angel of the Lord came and sat under the terebinth at Ophrah, which belonged to Joash the Abiezrite, while his son Gideon was beating out wheat in the winepress to hide it from the Midianites. 12 And the angel of the Lord appeared to him and said to him, “The Lord is with you, O mighty man of valor.” 13 And Gideon said to him, “Please, sir,a if the Lord is with us, why then has all this happened to us? And where are all his wonderful deeds that our fathers recounted to us, saying, ‘Did not the Lord bring us up from Egypt?’ But now the Lord has forsaken us and given us into the hand of Midian.” 14 And the Lord (3068. Yhvh) turned to him and said, “Go in this might of yours and save Israel from the hand of Midian; do not I send you?” 15 And he said to him, “Please, Lord (136. Adonay), how can I save Israel? Behold, my clan is the weakest in Manasseh, and I am the least in my father’s house.” 16 And the Lord said to him, “But I will be with you, and you shall strike the Midianites as one man.” 17 And he said to him, “If now I have found favor in your eyes, then show me a sign that it is you who speak with me. 18 Please do not depart from here until I come to you and bring out my present and set it before you.” And he said, “I will stay till you return.”
3068. Yhvh
the proper name of the God of Israel
Original Word: יְהֹוָהthe proper name of the God of Israel
Transliteration: Yhvh
Phonetic Spelling: (yeh-ho-vaw')
Short Definition: LORD
And the LORD
Yhovah (yeh-ho-vaw')
(the) self-Existent or Eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God -- Jehovah, the Lord.
136. Adonay
Lord
Lord
Original Word: אֲדֹנָי
Transliteration: Adonay
Phonetic Spelling: (ad-o-noy')
Short Definition: Lord
Lord
Am emphatic form of 'adown; the Lord (used as a proper name of God only) -- (my) Lord.
You are forgetting what I told you the other day, and remember
No-one has seen God
1 John 4:12
The angel of the Lord is not God Himself. The one refered to as the angel of the Lord is Christ, as I have previously showed you
Ex 23:20-22
Then read Ex 24:9-11. Who was the God of Israel who appeared to 74 people? The angel of the Lord mentioned in the previous chapter
Then to confirm
Then 1 Cor 10:4
But this is going to leave you with a problem isn't it?
All of those I Am quotes you gave me, and you refered them to the encounter Moses had at the burning bush
But who actually appeared to Moses at the burning bush?
There the angel of the Lord appeared to him from within the bush
Ex 3:2
He was sent to be their ruler and deliver by God Himself THROUGH THE ANGEL WHO APPEARED TO HIM IN THE BUSH
Acts 7:35
So there you are
I don't think you much understand the simple point to all of this, but never mind
No-one has seen God
1 John 4:12
The angel of the Lord is not God Himself. The one refered to as the angel of the Lord is Christ, as I have previously showed you
Ex 23:20-22
Then read Ex 24:9-11. Who was the God of Israel who appeared to 74 people? The angel of the Lord mentioned in the previous chapter
Then to confirm
Then 1 Cor 10:4
But this is going to leave you with a problem isn't it?
All of those I Am quotes you gave me, and you refered them to the encounter Moses had at the burning bush
But who actually appeared to Moses at the burning bush?
There the angel of the Lord appeared to him from within the bush
Ex 3:2
He was sent to be their ruler and deliver by God Himself THROUGH THE ANGEL WHO APPEARED TO HIM IN THE BUSH
Acts 7:35
So there you are
I don't think you much understand the simple point to all of this, but never mind
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Genesis 22:11–15 (NKJV)
11 But the Angel of the Lord called to him from heaven and said, “Abraham, Abraham!”
So he said, “Here I am.”
12 And He said, “Do not lay your hand on the lad, or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me.”
13 Then Abraham lifted his eyes and looked, and there behind him was a ram caught in a thicket by its horns. So Abraham went and took the ram, and offered it up for a burnt offering instead of his son. 14 And Abraham called the name of the place, The-Lord-Will-Provide; as it is said to this day, “In the Mount of the Lord it shall be provided.”
15 Then the Angel of the Lord called to Abraham a second time out of heaven,16 and said: “By Myself I have sworn, says the Lord, because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your son, your only son— 17 blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies. 18 In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.”
the Angel of the Lord is pre-incarnate Christ. He is called the Angel of the Lord for he is the messenger of the Father. However we see here. Abraham did not hold his son from the Angel of the Lord. For this reason. This "angel of the lord" will Bless, multiply and give Abrahams decendent's The land.
Jesus job has always been as the son of God, or son of man, the messenger sent from the father (God) to mankind. Before he came to Earth, He was the messenger. After he came he was the son
The question is Jesus diety. Does jesus have diety? if he does, by this account he is God for only God has diety. No created being has diety.
11 But the Angel of the Lord called to him from heaven and said, “Abraham, Abraham!”
So he said, “Here I am.”
12 And He said, “Do not lay your hand on the lad, or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me.”
13 Then Abraham lifted his eyes and looked, and there behind him was a ram caught in a thicket by its horns. So Abraham went and took the ram, and offered it up for a burnt offering instead of his son. 14 And Abraham called the name of the place, The-Lord-Will-Provide; as it is said to this day, “In the Mount of the Lord it shall be provided.”
15 Then the Angel of the Lord called to Abraham a second time out of heaven,16 and said: “By Myself I have sworn, says the Lord, because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your son, your only son— 17 blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies. 18 In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.”
the Angel of the Lord is pre-incarnate Christ. He is called the Angel of the Lord for he is the messenger of the Father. However we see here. Abraham did not hold his son from the Angel of the Lord. For this reason. This "angel of the lord" will Bless, multiply and give Abrahams decendent's The land.
Jesus job has always been as the son of God, or son of man, the messenger sent from the father (God) to mankind. Before he came to Earth, He was the messenger. After he came he was the son
The question is Jesus diety. Does jesus have diety? if he does, by this account he is God for only God has diety. No created being has diety.
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Just take an honest look
Isaiah 48:16 "Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord GOD and His Spirit Have sent Me."
17 Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel: "I am the LORD your God, Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go.
the LORD Jehovah is saying ‘the Lord God and His Spirit have sent Me’…
Who sends Jehovah?…
how can the Lord God and His Spirit send Jehovah to redeem Israel?
we have Jehovah identifying Himself in three persons…..
we see a similar passage in
Zechariah 2:10 " Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion! For behold, I am coming and I will dwell in your midst," says the LORD.
11 "Many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and they shall become My people. And I will dwell in your midst. Then you will know that the LORD of hosts has sent Me to you.
we have the LORD Jehovah saying that He was sent to Israel by the LORD Jehovah… how can this be unless God is truly a Triune God?
Isaiah 44:6 " Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God.
The LORD (Jehovah) is the King of Israel and his Redeemer is the LORD (Jehovah) and they are one God.
“Beside me there is no God”… this is the Trinitarian view… Jehovah is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit…
Another point---you will agree that everything that was created was created by and through Jesus Yes?
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
You agree this is speaking of Jesus correct??
then explain this passage---
Psalm 102
24 I said, "O my God, Do not take me away in the midst of my days; Your years are throughout all generations.
25 Of old You laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
26 They will perish, but You will endure; Yes, they will all grow old like a garment; Like a cloak You will change them, And they will be changed.
27 But You are the same, And Your years will have no end.
28 The children of Your servants will continue, And their descendants will be established before You."
this Old Testament passage clearly refers to God... yet this passage is attributed to Jesus Christ in the New Testament back there in Col 1:16
If Jesus created everything and God created everything you have no choice but to say Jesus is God the Son...
Isaiah 48:16 "Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord GOD and His Spirit Have sent Me."
17 Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel: "I am the LORD your God, Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go.
the LORD Jehovah is saying ‘the Lord God and His Spirit have sent Me’…
Who sends Jehovah?…
how can the Lord God and His Spirit send Jehovah to redeem Israel?
we have Jehovah identifying Himself in three persons…..
we see a similar passage in
Zechariah 2:10 " Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion! For behold, I am coming and I will dwell in your midst," says the LORD.
11 "Many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and they shall become My people. And I will dwell in your midst. Then you will know that the LORD of hosts has sent Me to you.
we have the LORD Jehovah saying that He was sent to Israel by the LORD Jehovah… how can this be unless God is truly a Triune God?
Isaiah 44:6 " Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God.
The LORD (Jehovah) is the King of Israel and his Redeemer is the LORD (Jehovah) and they are one God.
“Beside me there is no God”… this is the Trinitarian view… Jehovah is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit…
Another point---you will agree that everything that was created was created by and through Jesus Yes?
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
You agree this is speaking of Jesus correct??
then explain this passage---
Psalm 102
24 I said, "O my God, Do not take me away in the midst of my days; Your years are throughout all generations.
25 Of old You laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
26 They will perish, but You will endure; Yes, they will all grow old like a garment; Like a cloak You will change them, And they will be changed.
27 But You are the same, And Your years will have no end.
28 The children of Your servants will continue, And their descendants will be established before You."
this Old Testament passage clearly refers to God... yet this passage is attributed to Jesus Christ in the New Testament back there in Col 1:16
If Jesus created everything and God created everything you have no choice but to say Jesus is God the Son...