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So finally we get a response on the 7 Noahide Laws.

Lets see watcha got shall we?

  1. Idolatry is forbidden. Man is commanded to believe in the One G-d alone and worship only Him.
  2. Incestuous and adulterous relations are forbidden. Human beings are not sexual objects, nor is pleasure the ultimate goal of life.
  3. Murder is forbidden. The life of a human being, formed in G-d's image, is sacred.
  4. Cursing the name of G-d is forbidden. Besides honoring and respecting G-d, we learn from this precept that our speech must be sanctified, as that is the distinctive sign which separated man from the animals.
  5. Theft is forbidden. The world is not ours to do with as we please.
  6. Eating the flesh of a living animal is forbidden. This teaches us to be sensitive to cruelty to animals. (This was commanded to Noah for the first time along with the permission of eating meat. The rest were already given to Adam in the Garden of Eden.)
  7. Mankind is commanded to establish courts of justice and a just social order to enforce the first six laws and enact any other useful laws or customs.
Sans-sushi it looks like the other six are in the ten commandments. The only Noahide law that is not part of the standard moral teaching of mainstream Christianity is the prohibition against eating the flesh of an animal while it is still alive. Are you afraid the gobblement might force you to be a vegetarian? It's not going to happen lol...
Oh hahaha!! (not) You seem to have slipped up in your evaluation AOK. Do you see in the ten commandments or in the standard moral teaching of mainstream Christianity the order to establish courts of justice?And this is specifically RELIGIOUS courts of justice buddy boy.

Very interesting that you would completely skim over that one. Makes us paranoid conspiracy nuts VERY suspicious when people like you miss such an obvious thing like that.

Yes, thats right....courts of religious law. Meaning....Christians get dragged in there and have JUDGEMENT passed on them by this talmudic run court. And guess what the punishment is for viloating any of the 7 laws? DEATH......BY BEHEADING.

So what if the "ethical values and principles... from the dawn of civilization... known as the Seven Noahide Laws Seven Laws of Noah" were recognized by Congress in 1991 in the preamble for Education Day. They recognize all sorts of things on a regular basis. They "recognized the importance of Christmas and the Christian faith" on December 11, 2007.

Resolutions are often passed so Congress can approve or disapprove of something they would not otherwise have the ability to pass a bill on even if they are barred from doing so because of its unconstitutionality. That's how we get so many non-binding resolutions like the one reognizing Pavarotti's singing and the celebration of the 95th anniversary of the Girls Scouts.
Does Christmas, the Christian faith, Pavaorttis singing or the girl scouts have a punishment of DECAPITATION for worshipping the wrong god? Thats anything but the TALMUDIC g-d by the way. Christianity is IDOLATRY according to them.

In House Resolution 847, passed in 2007, Congress "resolved" and recognized the following:

(1) recognizes the Christian faith as one of the great religions of the world;
(2) expresses continued support for Christians in the United States and worldwide;
(3) acknowledges the international religious and historical importance of Christmas and the Christian faith;
(4) acknowledges and supports the role played by Christians and Christianity in the founding of the United States and in the formation of the western civilization;
(5) rejects bigotry and persecution directed against Christians, both in the United States and worldwide; and
(6) expresses its deepest respect to American Christians and Christians throughout the world.
Fantastic. All perfectly harmless. Chrsitianity doesnt wanna execute non-conformers. Whats next?

You guys have blown a lot of smoke over nothing about Congress simply recognizing Noah's laws You shouldn't have inhaled. They have recognized most every major religion at some point in some way. Congress passed a resolution earlier that same year, H.Res 635, to recognize the commencement of Ramadan stating:

"We are blessed to live in a nation that protects its citizens’ right to religious freedom, communal worship, and interfaith dialogue and service," said Congresswoman Johnson. September 13, 2007 marks the beginning of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan. Ramadan is a time of heightened spiritual awareness, family bonding, communal service and worship, and self renewal for Muslims everywhere. The Muslim American community contributes to the vibrant growth of American society and culture. Muslim Americans play a significant role in our nation’s political process, economic growth, scientific development, free enterprise, religious tolerance, law enforcement, and homeland security. American pluralistic ideals, democratic institutions, and multiculturalism are expanded and strengthened by the contribution of Muslim American civic participation. We need to continue to work together towards a world where all faiths are respected; where people of different beliefs and ethnic backgrounds can live together in harmony. And it is my hope that this holy month will bring a new era of peace between all nations so people can emerge from the shadows of violence and extremism and make better lives for our children."
Nope, no mention of any LAWS. No sharia law there.

Meanwhile the noahide laws that prescribe the decapitation of Christians is promoted and lauded over not just in US public law BUT ALSO BY THE UN. They say they want ALL NATIONS to adopt the noahide laws. Interesting that you have no comment on the UN's stance. Very suspicious.

by a vote of 365 to 0. That's unanimous. Congress has been doing this since the first Congress convened. It has no force of law or rule and they've passed so many thousands of these religious resolutions over the centuries that they all conflict with each other... lol. It's a feel good exercise that has never meant anything.
It will mean something when they drag you into court and say you either renounce Jesus as God or your melon is going bye bye.

Is Jesus God, AOK?

Is there a push for one world governance AKA a New World Order?
 
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You're comments are that of a paranoid delusional. Congress recognized a great many things over the past 200 years that have zero rule of law, zero ability to bind, would be unconstitutional if they tried, and so are 100% smoke much like your assertions on this subject. What part of this is Congress's way of engaging in a feel good exercise they've done many thousands of times over throughout the history of the country that isn't intended to go anywhere, never has gone anywhere, isn't going anywhere, and never will go anywhere didn't you comprehend. You pretty much just skipped over my post, which clearly explained this is a futile exercise Congress engages in, to concentrate on paranoid delusions that the Jews are going to take over the USA and cut your head off because Congress recogized Ramadan, Christianity, and Noah's Laws as having some historical moral background to them in a feel good exercise they've engaged in for over 200 years.
 
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You're comments are that of a paranoid delusional.
Cuz thats really all you got left innit?

Ad homs.

Congress recognized a great many things over the past 200 years that have zero rule of law, zero ability to bind, would be unconstitutional if they tried, and so are 100% smoke much like your assertions on this subject.
Yes but the Noahide laws have MONDO rule of law. Thats why their called LAWS. And the US promoting them is perfect for introducing those LAWS in a state of future emergency.

What part of this is Congress's way of engaging in a feel good exercise they've done many thousands of times over throughout the history of the country that isn't intended to go anywhere, never has gone anywhere, isn't going anywhere, and never will go anywhere didn't you comprehend.
What part of....you dont have a crystal ball.... dont YOU understand?

You fight too hard me thinks. <veeeeery suspicious now>

You pretty much just skipped over my post, which clearly explained this is a futile exercise Congress engages in, to concentrate on paranoid delusions that the Jews are going to take over the USA and cut your head off because Congress recogized Ramadan, Christianity, and Noah's Laws as having some historical moral background to them in a feel good exercise they've engaged in for over 200 years.
Oh I skipped over YOUR post??

THATS A LARPH!

Hey, look how I disected your post and addressed each of your points.

Now look how you just posted a repetition of your previous unfounded, baseless conclusions without even a single quote from my rebuttal!

You missed this:

You seem to have slipped up in your evaluation AOK. Do you see in the ten commandments or in the standard moral teaching of mainstream Christianity the order toestablish courts of justice?And this is specifically RELIGIOUS courts of justice buddy boy.

Very interesting that you would completely skim over that one. Makes us paranoid conspiracy nuts VERY suspicious when people like you miss such an obvious thing like that.

Yes, thats right....courts of religious law. Meaning....Christians get dragged in there and have JUDGEMENT passed on them by this talmudic run court. And guess what the punishment is for viloating any of the 7 laws? DEATH......BY BEHEADING.


Which we would like an answer on.

And this which you dicided to duck also:

Meanwhile the noahide laws that prescribe the decapitation of Christians is promoted and lauded over not just in US public law BUT ALSO BY THE UN.

And also habitual avoidance of this question:

Is there a push for one world governance AKA a New World Order?

You are starting to look very bad now AOK.

Expected, seeing as you havn't done your homework.

(either that or you are not who you say you are)
 
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Everything's as I said and no it doesn't matter and isn't as you say. I always look good while you look like a fruitcake who forgot to take their medicine... lol.
 
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Everything's as I said and no it doesn't matter and isn't as you say. I always look good while you look like a fruitcake who forgot to take their medicine... lol.
So is this where you bow out of addressing the subject matter completely and come out with the inevitable "I said it so its TRUE....." accompanied by the usual ad hom mental illness quips?

Figgerz.

Everywhere you go on this forum.....the above material will be held up for all to see your cowardice.
 
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Actually that's what you do strangelove. Your posts are a historical record of it. You're not even snarky anymore... just another name caller that can't handle having his nonsense rebutted.


So is this where you bow out of addressing the subject matter completely and come out with the inevitable "I said it so its TRUE....." accompanied by the usual ad hom mental illness quips?

Figgerz.

Everywhere you go on this forum.....the above material will be held up for all to see your cowardice.
 
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Actually that's what you do strangelove. Your posts are a historical record of it. You're not even snarky anymore... just another name caller that can't handle having his nonsense rebutted.
Yup. Back to topic. Still waiting for answers to post #523.

You seem to be at a dead end. Do you need another day to research?
 
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You've already received the truth for your Noahide nonsensical assertion that the U.S. Congress was preparing to cut your head off due to the Jews strangelove.

And though you are crazy as a fruitbat, you should still be able to grasp the fact that while it takes you a couple minutes to create a string of hypothetical questions: it does take longer to research and answer them.

So why don't you calm down and let people respond as they have time... the Pharisees probably won't take over the earth and cut our heads off before I have a chance to respond to your NWO posting.

Relax.

Yup. Back to topic. Still waiting for answers to post #523.

You seem to be at a dead end. Do you need another day to research?
 
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You've already received the truth for your Noahide nonsensical assertion that the U.S. Congress was preparing to cut your head off due to the Jews strangelove.

And though you are crazy as a fruitbat, you should still be able to grasp the fact that while it takes you a couple minutes to create a string of hypothetical questions: it does take longer to research and answer them.

So why don't you calm down and let people respond as they have time... the Pharisees probably won't take over the earth and cut our heads off before I have a chance to respond to your NWO posting.

Relax.
Ok so you need more time, because you dont know the answers. Why didnt you just say that?

Why continue with the anti-goyism and ad hominems?

Maybe its you who needs to relax.
 
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Always stealing from your own credibility by putting words in other people's mouths aren't you strangelove.

I didn't say I don't know the answer. I said I need time to research it before answering. See, unlike you, I provide credible citations and source information for what I have to say.

It's what intellectuals do as opposed to arm chair experts like yourself. The intellectual strives to achieve a more scholarly level of care in performing due diligence.

I'm very relaxed and having a jolly old time rebutting you chap (mostly because it's so easy to do) :).

Ok so you need more time, because you dont know the answers. Why didnt you just say that?

Why continue with the anti-goyism and ad hominems?

Maybe its you who needs to relax.
 
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Always stealing from your own credibility by putting words in other people's mouths aren't you strangelove.

I didn't say I don't know the answer. I said I need time to research it before answering. See, unlike you, I provide credible citations and source information for what I have to say.

It's what intellectuals do as opposed to arm chair experts like yourself. The intellectual strives to achieve a more scholarly level of care in performing due diligence.

I'm very relaxed and having a jolly old time rebutting you chap (mostly because it's so easy to do) :).
hmmm...........disinformation.........ex military.......access to approved info.......counter intel?........cold war vet...........disinfo. specialist?............Nah couldn't be right?........hmmm
hey I will have my eggs over easy thanks. Not much on scrambled info
 
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Making up stuff just means you made up stuff. All you're doing is engaging in a bit of the ad hominem and nothing more. I went in an E1 and came out after one tour. How high can you go in one tour chipping paint, cooking food, and pushing papers around? Not high at all friend.

There are millions of us vets in the U.S. and I bet you the vast majority would challenge your Jewish Pharisitical Talmudic global domination conspiracy because it's so far-fetched as to be fantastic. That doesn't mean any of us are secret agents for the Jews working undercover on CC anymore than you are.

You conspiracy nutjobs just make this stuff up as you go along imo and when it doesn't work you attack the one rebutting it. You're more a paid for secret agent than I am nutjob. Cook your own breakfast. now where was I.. oh yeah.

(contd)

zone Q: Who are the Khazars?

A: The Khazars were semi-nomadic Turkic people who established a state in medieval Eurasia (the territory of much of modern day Russia). They are important because they fought the muslim Arab armies to a stand still greatly helping to protect Eastern Europe from being conquered by the Muslims and pushing back the fall of Constantinople.

The Khazars traded in their pagan Tengri shamanism for Judaism but they fell to the Muslims in the 10th century and were displaced by the Rus', the Kipchaks, and later the conquering Mongol Golden Horde largely disappearing as a culturally distinct people.

You might want to see this: Are Russian Jews Descended from the Khazars? Analyzing the Khazar Theory

"Are all Jews around the world descended from the Khazars? Certainly not."

I don't really know what you're driving at because you don't say. You just strung numerous short questions together rapidly. Bad form really. Some people do it deliberately as a debate tactic (and no I don't believe that's why you did it).

zone Q: who is Gog and Magog?

Scholars assert that the etymology of Gog/Magog remains uncertain. Even Biblical scholars argue about both the etymology and eschatology surrounding scriptures referring to Gog/Magog. As a result, people like to interpret Gog and Magog to fit into whatever view they are teaching.

zone Q: what's the lure of Solomon's Temple?

A: There are so many Solomon Temple Conspiracies out there I can only imagine which one you're driving at but if I have to guess I'd say, based on the views you've shared so far, this is it: The Black Pope

zone Q: who or what is JABULON?

A: Masonic made up nonsense maybe from the 18th century. There has been much debate over the origin and meaning of this word. There is no consensus even among Masonic researchers as to its meaning or legitimacy: one Masonic scholar alleges that the word first appeared in an early 18th Century Royal Arch ritual as the name of an allegorical explorer searching for the ruins of King Solomon's Temple; another Masonic scholar believes it is a descriptive name for God in Hebrew; The most common masonic explanation is that it is a word derived from combining parts of the name of God in different historic languages. Lots of people make up lots of things in their role playing games and the masons were no different.

zone Q: who is Hiram?

A: More Masonic lore.
 
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See the problem here AOK is exactly thisI.E.
1 your avatarial name: would suggest that you are a very intelligent person of whom comes volumes of relatively accurate knowledge albeit with its own personal slant and that perhaps you believe yourself to be second in authoritative information under Christ himself... PRIDE, prime sin the first
2 Regardless of the information age you are too well read(it would seem)on almost any topic or subtopic (which implies chipping paint or shuffling papers wasn't the only thing you did) either that or you are FOS
3 I have NEVER claimed a Jewish Pharisitical Talmudic global domination conspiracy those are nothing more than red herrings for those who consider themselves wise and attempt to lay down the gauntlet as it were for those who also think that they are wise......pffffff...........PLEASE.......
4 When figuring out a global political and economic Landscape one has to assume a posture of stance. What side are you picking correct?
5 If you are picking side A then you will only focus on the propagation of side A not side B and vice versa therefore regardless of what side you pick your information will only be focused on the affirmation and vindication of said side correct? ( You have obviously picked a side)
6 In the case of global political economical landscapes since neither side can be trusted you have to be independent as I recall you claimed of yourself in another thread so do I, so the argument then becomes who can discern the truth from both sides propaganda to get a true picture?
7 As any good military man will tell you when referring to the enemy "body count is the best measure of sucess"
8 In considering this then one only has to look at the body count and to where they lie as a measure of success.
9 If we were to take in strictly the body count of the people who have been murdered under whatever banner since 1777 and then look at who would gain most economically and politically )both pertain to greed and power and the maintaining of said power) then it is not that hard to extrude from that the source of the oppression and willful misuse of power and money and its roots.
10In doing this one has to start far back in history to get a true picture of said landscape because all things created by man take time to create. Todays political landscape has been sculpted for years it is no accident (no I do not believe in predestination) Freedom of choice yada yada.
11 Since the global political map itself wasn't existant as yet in 1750 I use 1777 as an approximate year of the inception of todays political and economical structure to support this theory I propose this because it wasn't until Captain Cooks famous ramblings that the entire usable modern world as we know it was discovered. As well this would have been the zenith of the enlightenment era leading up to the napoleonic wars and the modern industrial age which oddly enough happened the same time that the Rothchild fortune was being made, but lets not get off topic or you will call this a baseles rant with no supposition I'M sure.
12 In conclusion when viewed from outside the box using the body count method and coupled with the considered percieved needs of the day in regards towards gaining ever more political and economic power over the earth and its people and maintaining it. It is not too difficult when sifted to find the pebbles in the sand! 1700 years ago a wise roman said "He who benefits most from a crime is most likely to have committed it"
Find those who benefits most from the modern worlds political and economical structure and you will find the perpetraters of the greatest crimes against humanity!

Selah
 
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Always stealing from your own credibility by putting words in other people's mouths aren't you strangelove.

I didn't say I don't know the answer. I said I need time to research it before answering. See, unlike you, I provide credible citations and source information for what I have to say.

It's what intellectuals do as opposed to arm chair experts like yourself. The intellectual strives to achieve a more scholarly level of care in performing due diligence.

I'm very relaxed and having a jolly old time rebutting you chap (mostly because it's so easy to do) :).
LackofKnowledge (LOK)

waiting......waiting....
 
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Still waiting AOK.

Your quite happy to call me names and label the talmudic conspiracy a 'red herring' but it seems you still havn't answered post #523

Bumpedy Bump!
 

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zone Q: Who are the Khazars?

A: The Khazars were semi-nomadic Turkic people who established a state in medieval Eurasia (the territory of much of modern day Russia). They are important because they fought the muslim Arab armies to a stand still greatly helping to protect Eastern Europe from being conquered by the Muslims and pushing back the fall of Constantinople.

The Khazars traded in their pagan Tengri shamanism for Judaism but they fell to the Muslims in the 10th century and were displaced by the Rus', the Kipchaks, and later the conquering Mongol Golden Horde largely disappearing as a culturally distinct people.

You might want to see this: Are Russian Jews Descended from the Khazars? Analyzing the Khazar Theory

"Are all Jews around the world descended from the Khazars? Certainly not."

zone Q: who is Gog and Magog?

Scholars assert that the etymology of Gog/Magog remains uncertain. Even Biblical scholars argue about both the etymology and eschatology surrounding scriptures referring to Gog/Magog. As a result, people like to interpret Gog and Magog to fit into whatever view they are teaching..
WHY DON'T WE CARE ABOUT REAL HISTORY?

the Khazars (Ashkenazim) are Gog (of) and Magog

this historical lecture by an OC scholar is informative, and facts easily checked.
the eastern church and muslims have known this for a long time.

i'm always a little skeptical of people who refuse to consider that we only get partial history for a reason.

The Orthodox Nationalist: Khazaria

July 28, 2011 · Print This Article





Matt Johnson discusses:
  • The Khazar empire;
  • Khazaria and the Talmud;
  • Khazar economy based on slavery;
  • The reason the Khazars converted to Talmudism;
  • The reasons for the fall of Khazaria;
  • Khazaria and Anti-Christ.
13 MB / 32 kbps mono / 0 hour 56 min.



http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110728/the-orthodox-nationalist-khazaria
OP: would you take the Noahide Oath?
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/27759-noahide-laws.html




AoK you may want to contact these folks, since they are jews, and claim they are khazars.
are they lying?



A Resource for Turkic and Jewish History in Russia and Ukraine

Last Updated: September 13, 2011 Read about [SIZE=+1]The Jews of Khazaria[/SIZE] - the general-interest book about the Khazars in English
DESCENDANTS OF THE KHAZARS IN EUROPE Khazaria.com - History of Jewish Khazars, Khazar Turk, Khazarian Jews


remember: this is about THE TALMUD.
see also
Dr. Tony Martin: The Judaic Role In The Black Slave Trade (Full Lecture)
Dr. Tony Martin: The Judaic Role In The Black Slave Trade (Full Lecture) - YouTube

In this brilliant foray into the hidden dimensions of the chronicle of black servitude, Tony Martin, professor of African History at Wellesley College, lectures on the role of Judaics in the Trans-Atlantic slave trade, and the impact of racist rabbinic texts on the formation of the contemptuous view of Africans which led to the justification of their enslavement. Dr. Martin's speech is introduced by Michael A. Hoffman II who provides insight on recent scholarly developments concerning the "Curse of Ham." Brief concluding remarks are offered by historian David Irving.

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AoK i would be thrilled to hear your reviews of the audio and video provided.
zone.
 
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WHY DON'T WE CARE ABOUT REAL HISTORY?

the Khazars (Ashkenazim) are Gog (of) and Magog

this historical lecture by an OC scholar is informative, and facts easily checked.
the eastern church and muslims have known this for a long time.

i'm always a little skeptical of people who refuse to consider that we only get partial history for a reason.



OP: would you take the Noahide Oath?
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/27759-noahide-laws.html




AoK you may want to contact these folks, since they are jews, and claim they are khazars.
are they lying?



A Resource for Turkic and Jewish History in Russia and Ukraine

Last Updated: September 13, 2011 Read about [SIZE=+1]The Jews of Khazaria[/SIZE] - the general-interest book about the Khazars in English
DESCENDANTS OF THE KHAZARS IN EUROPE Khazaria.com - History of Jewish Khazars, Khazar Turk, Khazarian Jews


remember: this is about THE TALMUD.
see also
Dr. Tony Martin: The Judaic Role In The Black Slave Trade (Full Lecture)
Dr. Tony Martin: The Judaic Role In The Black Slave Trade (Full Lecture) - YouTube

In this brilliant foray into the hidden dimensions of the chronicle of black servitude, Tony Martin, professor of African History at Wellesley College, lectures on the role of Judaics in the Trans-Atlantic slave trade, and the impact of racist rabbinic texts on the formation of the contemptuous view of Africans which led to the justification of their enslavement. Dr. Martin's speech is introduced by Michael A. Hoffman II who provides insight on recent scholarly developments concerning the "Curse of Ham." Brief concluding remarks are offered by historian David Irving.

~

AoK i would be thrilled to hear your reviews of the audio and video provided.
zone.

bump
any comments from anyone?
has anyone listend to the audio?