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Abiding

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Abiding and Zone.......Abiding and Anandya . Red your amusing. Opps i forgot it was "stiffnecked" Abiding.
Until i grow up and mature and not until then im probably gona make friends and have fun.

It might please you to know ive been taking grownup lessons and will continue. Im still working on remembering
to take my vitamins...ive really got to try harder..but i know i can do it..im just sure i can. :)
 
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zone

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GaryMac said:
No man is a God, God is Spirit and resides in the man. He came to Jesus iwhen he was 30 years old and opend all of heaven to that man, Matt 3:16. Jesus refered to the process as born again. Jesus was not the same after that event and evident in the things he did after that event. Same happend in Paul on the road to damascus, he was a different man, same happened in 120 in an upper room, Moses on the mountain, Abraham, Adam right down to me.

The reason I know that Jesus was not God is because the same God that came to him came to Jesus and opened Gods kingdom to him is the same one who came to me and made His abode in me as well. He is a SPirit. Not a man.

Jesus was sent by God to give to you and I what he had from the Father. And he said, So I send you.
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'WORD OF FAITH' HERESIES

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jesus was born again[/FONT]- Kenneth Hagin Hagin says that Jesus was the first person to be born again. As you hear this clip, you can know that to believe that Jesus needed to be born again, is as silly to believe that the Creator needed to be created Himself.


[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You are Jesus[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]- Benny Hinn [/FONT]Our Position in Christ#2, 1990,audiotape,sd2
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Benny Hinn probably is the most popular Word of Faith teacher today. He states here that his audience should never say that they have Jesus (in heart, mind etc.) but that they should say that they are Jesus. (pls. note * Mormons say we can become divine just like Jesus. Hinn takes Mormon teaching a step further and actually says you have already arrived and that you are Jesus right now! Hinn is preaching gross error here. Contrary to Hinn's teaching, Scripture teaches we are to become like Jesus not Divine like Jesus; only God Who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit is Divine.)[/FONT]


Jesus on Video, False Teachings, TBN Praise-a-thon, Drunk in the spirit, Job was wrong, Jesus was born again, Audio, Video, Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyers, Rodney Howard Browne, Kenneth Hagin,Cleflo Dollar Jr
 
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Abiding said:
Abiding and Zone.......Abiding and Anandya . Red your amusing. Opps i forgot it was "stiffnecked" Abiding.
Until i grow up and mature and not until then im probably gona make friends and have fun.

It might please you to know ive been taking grownup lessons and will continue. Im still working on remembering
to take my vitamins...ive really got to try harder..but i know i can do it..im just sure i can. :)
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lol mikey.
can i play too?

 
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GaryMac

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Gary your theology is strange and unbiblically balanced. Your "one with Him doctrine" is based on truth
but its nothing but a mantra now.

And the fruit of it is showing here, that your a hack. Jesus who you imply your one with
would never say dont warn or judge till your perfect. So your not "one with Him", and your exposed,
and your part of the false teaching movement.
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The fruit of it is showing here, He and I are one, He in me and In Him. If you cant relate to that don’t tell me that His doctrine is a hack. Try him yourself. If you were one with Him as Jesus was one with Him then you would understand the concept. But don’t go telling Christ or anyone else that we cant be one with the Father as Jesus was one with Him, that is His will for us. You need to read John 17 and apply it for yourself.
 
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GaryMac

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zone said:
'WORD OF FAITH' HERESIES

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jesus was born again[/FONT]- Kenneth Hagin Hagin says that Jesus was the first person to be born again. As you hear this clip, you can know that to believe that Jesus needed to be born again, is as silly to believe that the Creator needed to be created Himself.


[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You are Jesus[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]- Benny Hinn [/FONT]Our Position in Christ#2, 1990,audiotape,sd2
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Benny Hinn probably is the most popular Word of Faith teacher today. He states here that his audience should never say that they have Jesus (in heart, mind etc.) but that they should say that they are Jesus. (pls. note * Mormons say we can become divine just like Jesus. Hinn takes Mormon teaching a step further and actually says you have already arrived and that you are Jesus right now! Hinn is preaching gross error here. Contrary to Hinn's teaching, Scripture teaches we are to become like Jesus not Divine like Jesus; only God Who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit is Divine.)[/FONT]


Jesus on Video, False Teachings, TBN Praise-a-thon, Drunk in the spirit, Job was wrong, Jesus was born again, Audio, Video, Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyers, Rodney Howard Browne, Kenneth Hagin,Cleflo Dollar Jr
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If one is not like Him and hs in you what Jesus had in him, Gods SPirit in you, Christ in you, no matter who you are, then you do not follow Gods way for you at all. You are or you are not like Him. If you are not then you follow your own way apart from His way, if you are then you follow His way for you.
 
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zone

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GaryMac said:
If one is not like Him and hs in you what Jesus had in him, Gods SPirit in you, Christ in you, no matter who you are, then you do not follow Gods way for you at all. You are or you are not like Him. If you are not then you follow your own way apart from His way, if you are then you follow His way for you.
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ok Gary.
take it easy.
 
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Abiding

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GaryMac said:
The fruit of it is showing here, He and I are one, He in me and In Him. If you cant relate to that don’t tell me that His doctrine is a hack. Try him yourself. If you were one with Him as Jesus was one with Him then you would understand the concept. But don’t go telling Christ or anyone else that we cant be one with the Father as Jesus was one with Him, that is His will for us. You need to read John 17 and apply it for yourself.
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I memorized john 17 years ago. Thats not it. Truth is truth. Its the lies you feather into it.
Its not a concept either. Its a reality to every bornagain child of God whether they understand
it or not. Your using a timeless truth as a front for false teaching. And a boast.
 
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GaryMac

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Abiding said:
I memorized john 17 years ago. Thats not it. Truth is truth. Its the lies you feather into it.
Its not a concept either. Its a reality to every bornagain child of God whether they understand
it or not. Your using a timeless truth as a front for false teaching. And a boast.
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What lies? that Jesus prayed for you to be one with the Father same as he had? You may have memorized iJohn 17 but you didnt apply it. Why would you say that John 17 is a lie and Jesus didnt intend for you to be one as he was? You call me a liar but what you really are doing is calling Jesus one.
 
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GaryMac

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zone said:
ok Gary.
take it easy.
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Sorry I dont mean for it to sound harsh, that is not my intent. But if a truth stings then it may come across as such. I know Jesus said sone things that made people tear their cloths and call him a blasphemer,to a point of crucifixion, but that was not his intent at all.
 
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zone

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GaryMac said:
Sorry I dont mean for it to sound harsh, that is not my intent. But if a truth stings then it may come across as such. I know Jesus said sone things that made people tear their cloths and call him a blasphemer,to a point of crucifixion, but that was not his intent at all.
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no, you're not talking truth.
i just said take it easy for your sake.

Jesus is I AM.
 
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GaryMac

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zone said:
no, you're not talking truth.
i just said take it easy for your sake.

Jesus is I AM.
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The only way I can relate to God is Christ. I cant relate to God in any other way. If you have a different way of relating to God then it is not through Christ. Christ simply means to be anointed of God, Christ in you, Gods SPirit in you. Christ is noting more or less than Gods SPirit in you, His anointing in you, the anointed one.

Why would I settle for anything less as some of you would try and have do? Why is you guys way for me better than His way for me? WHat makes your way better than His?

Christ in me is my hope of glory, outside of that I have no hope in Gods kingdom and no relation with Him. Without Christ there is no relationship, you can know who He is but you cant have His relationship. The kingdom of God is withn me. Christ in me. Christ is not an outside being, Christ is Gods Spirit in me. Jesus was Christ because He had Gods Spirit, he was anointed of God, so am I I have the same Spirit in me who was in Christ Jesus.
 
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zone

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GaryMac said:
Christ simply means to be anointed of God, Christ in you, Gods SPirit in you. Christ is noting more or less than Gods SPirit in you, His anointing in you, the anointed one.
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false false false.
 
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Abiding

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GaryMac said:
The only way I can relate to God is Christ. I cant relate to God in any other way. If you have a different way of relating to God then it is not through Christ. Christ simply means to be anointed of God, Christ in you, Gods SPirit in you. Christ is noting more or less than Gods SPirit in you, His anointing in you, the anointed one.

Why would I settle for anything less as some of you would try and have do? Why is you guys way for me better than His way for me? WHat makes your way better than His?

Christ in me is my hope of glory, outside of that I have no hope in Gods kingdom and no relation with Him. Without Christ there is no relationship, you can know who He is but you cant have His relationship. The kingdom of God is withn me. Christ in me. Christ is not an outside being, Christ is Gods Spirit in me. Jesus was Christ because He had Gods Spirit, he was anointed of God, so am I I have the same Spirit in me who was in Christ Jesus.
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me me me me me me me me me me me me this is all you talk about. Its like driving down the road screaming you have tires. So what? Just quit telling people they have to have some esoteric thinking about a reality that already exists in their walk of faith, and that if they dont they dont walk with God at all.
 
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GaryMac

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zone said:
'WORD OF FAITH' HERESIES

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jesus was born again[/FONT]- Kenneth Hagin Hagin says that Jesus was the first person to be born again. As you hear this clip, you can know that to believe that Jesus needed to be born again, is as silly to believe that the Creator needed to be created Himself.


[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You are Jesus[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]- Benny Hinn [/FONT]Our Position in Christ#2, 1990,audiotape,sd2
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Benny Hinn probably is the most popular Word of Faith teacher today. He states here that his audience should never say that they have Jesus (in heart, mind etc.) but that they should say that they are Jesus. (pls. note * Mormons say we can become divine just like Jesus. Hinn takes Mormon teaching a step further and actually says you have already arrived and that you are Jesus right now! Hinn is preaching gross error here. Contrary to Hinn's teaching, Scripture teaches we are to become like Jesus not Divine like Jesus; only God Who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit is Divine.)[/FONT]


Jesus on Video, False Teachings, TBN Praise-a-thon, Drunk in the spirit, Job was wrong, Jesus was born again, Audio, Video, Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyers, Rodney Howard Browne, Kenneth Hagin,Cleflo Dollar Jr
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Are you sugesting that Gods SPirit didnt come to Jesus and open all of heaven to him as Matt 3:16 sugests that He did? are you saying that it wanst necessary for God to do this and that Jesus life didnt change at this time? Where do you get your information? It sue isnt from Matt 3:16.
 
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GaryMac

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Abiding said:
me me me me me me me me me me me me this is all you talk about. Its like driving down the road screaming you have tires. So what? Just quit telling people they have to have some esoteric thinking about a reality that already exists in their walk of faith, and that if they dont they dont walk with God at all.
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Oh all who say they follow the way of Christ are not liek Him at all. You may have tires made of steel and tires made of rubber but they are still tires. That doesnt mean they will perform the same it means you have tires.

You may say you follow the way of Christ and I am not doubting this, what I am doubting is if one is not as He is then you run a different set of tires from Him. Stell ones can get slipperey at 70 miles an hour.
 
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GaryMac

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zone said:
false false false.
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False? are you saying that Christ is not the anointed one? Christ in you, Christ in me? Perhaps you should explain your Christ to me.I have explained my Christ to you, My Christ resides in me, Christ in me is my hope of glory His glory n me, He and I are one. Anointed of Gods Spirit. The anointed one.

Please tell me your difinition of Christ in you is your hope of glory? But I already know!
 
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cronjecj

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GaryMac said:
False? are you saying that Christ is not the anointed one? Christ in you, Christ in me? Perhaps you should explain your Christ to me.I have explained my Christ to you, My Christ resides in me, Christ in me is my hope of glory His glory n me, He and I are one. Anointed of Gods Spirit. The anointed one.

Please tell me your difinition of Christ in you is your hope of glory? But I already know!
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The only one who had the right to say 'I and the Father are one' is Jesus because He was the perfect imprint of God, the visible of the invisible God therefore Jesus IS the almighty God.

You are not Jesus, you are GaryMac. The Holy Ghost dwells in us yes BUT you are NOT one and the same. You are you, Christ is the head of you and God the head of Christ.
 
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cronjecj

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Hey this thread is suppose to be about meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
 
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