How can Satan be bound for a thousand yrs.?

[peterT]

...just imagine,

she could have been my mother you know, she would have taught me well.

....unlike you so called ''learned Christians''

Have you been drinking Zone?

Your posts on this thread as go a bit crazy.

Not that having a drink is a sin, but to get pissed and sit on Christian chat someone should say something .

 

[Israel]

Why the does it say that the devil and the false prophet are tormented day and night forever and ever. Rev 20? ...is it symbolic maybe?

Nothing would change in my life if i should believe that however it's not what ii want?

..it's what the word of God wants. (death and hell cast into the lake along with the devil and the beast = second death).

...the unjust (goats, tares) on His left were judged at the great white throne judgement.. Revelation 20:10-15 (KJV)

same with the parable of the farmer.

Israel how do you interpret the parable of the wheat and the weed?

What is the devil and the false prophet? What does it mean to be tormented in THE PRESENCE OF THE LAMB? A lamb is a gentile creature by nature! There is no rest now for them day or night as those that believe DO enter His rest.

The parable of the wheat and tares is a battle of the mind. The true enemy of God is the carnal mind. God created all of mankind on day 6 and declared all of us to be "very good". What is the wheat?

Malachi 3:10

10Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

What has gone out of His mouth CANNOT be a lie.

Hebrews 13:11-15

11For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.

12Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

13Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.

14For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.

15By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.

 

[Israel]

Israel

ok i believe everyone is saved except the unbelieving now what?

Is not all concluded by God in UNBELIEF, that He may have mercy on ALL?

 

[Abiding]

...just imagine,

she could have been my mother you know, she would have taught me well.

....unlike you so called ''learned Christians''

This is completely shameful.

 

[journey41]

Jude
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

If angels can be bound satan can be bound

Amen. Good point

 

[journey41]

....agree with this.

[/QUOTE]Of course, this new person is you as well! LOL

 

[Laodicea]

Have you been drinking Zone?

Your posts on this thread as go a bit crazy.

Not that having a drink is a sin, but to get pissed and sit on Christian chat someone should say something .

Your post is insulting and a personal attack. This is a Bible discussion forum

 

[peterT]

Your post is insulting and a personal attack. This is a Bible discussion forum

Yes it is a personal attack

For a start she is pretending to be someone ells in a Christian chat room.

Rebuke before all that others my fear

 

[Laodicea]

Yes it is a personal attack

For a start she is pretending to be someone ells in a Christian chat room.

Rebuke before all that others my fear

You should stick with discussing the Bible and not do personal attacks even if you disagree with them

 

[peterT]

You should stick with discussing the Bible and not do personal attacks even if you disagree with them

Just a minute last week you accused me 4 or 5 times in a row of doing something I never did. That’s insulting and I did not said anything.

She is doing Trickery and deceit.

in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

She has been establishing her own witness.

I am well within my rights to openly rebuke her.

this IS about the Bible and her witness.

 

[AnandaHya]

the real question is not if Satan is bound but if Jesus reigns on Heaven AND Earth or if you would rather believe Satan still holds power that was taken from him on the cross?

 

[Laodicea]

Just a minute last week you accused me 4 or 5 times in a row of doing something I never did. That’s insulting and I did not said anything.

She is doing Trickery and deceit.

in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

She has been establishing her own witness.

I am well within my rights to openly rebuke her.

this IS about the Bible and her witness.

Last week I asked you questions about the Bible nothing else

 

[AnandaHya]

CRONJECJ IS NOT Zone. I've spoken to both and they have completely different stories and styles of writing.

anyways as for revelation I believe that it was future at the time it was written but some happened already. not all but some of it.

it was written to first century readers and the words stated "3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near."

what i never understood was why people think tribulation is a future event.

I believe tribulation is a past and continual event that will happen until Jesus second coming to destroy this world and replace it with a New Earth and New Heaven.

When did Jesus ever promise worldly peace? His kingdom is not of this world. the peace He offers is a right relationship with GOD. not a friendship or peace with the world.

why is Tribulation linked with Satan?

How can John be a brother and companion in tribulation if tribulation has not yet occurred?

"9 I, John, both[e] your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ"

why do people not think we are now in the little season where Satan is gathering people to war against God?

Does the first resurrection happen in one day or can it be continous?

as in as people die they are judged righteous and allowed to be resurrected and able to enter into Heaven into the new Jereusalum in Heaven and those who are not are bound until final Judgment day?

what is the date of the great Schism in the church?

July 6, 1054

mmm seems awful close to a thousand years to me.

 

[2knowhim]

To be carnally minded is DEATH
To be spiritually minded is Life and peace Rom 8:6

The last enemy to be destroyed is Death 1Cor.15:26
Death and Hell were cast into the Lake of Fire Rev. 20:14
And there shall be no more Death, Rev. 21:4
No more Carnal minds.

All renewed and made alive in The Fire. 1Cor. 15:22
For our God is a cunsuming Fire. Heb.12:29

Satan's food is the Carnal mind Gen. 3:14
When the mind is renewed through the Knowledge
of The Truth, hence "The Seal" Satan is Bound, and cast out. John 15:26 luke 10:18

Why is he released for a little season?
So that we may be tried and tested on the Truth
which we have come to know. 1Pet. 1:7
He that has, more shall be given. Luke 12:48
The more you know the more your responsible for.

This is the process that everyone must go through. 1Cor. 3:13
The Carnal minds, wicked and unbelieving minds are destroyed by the Fire.
Tormented in The Presence of The Lamb, Day and Night, this should be
Our first clue, "DAY and NIGHT" has to do with a physical realm and time. Rev. 22:5

The carnal mind is Enmity "Enemy" against God Rom. 8:7
When it has been completly consumed by the Fire,
Then there shall be the New Heaven and New Earth.
And Peace.

And there shall be no more Devil, he is destroyed by the fire.

1,000yrs. is as One Day to The Lord, but to us it is what we live
It is symbolic of our days upon the earth. Look at Adam.
And there is so much more, It is THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST.
2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Blessings

 

[journey41]

To be carnally minded is DEATH
To be spiritually minded is Life and peace Rom 8:6

The last enemy to be destroyed is Death 1Cor.15:26
Death and Hell were cast into the Lake of Fire Rev. 20:14
And there shall be no more Death, Rev. 21:4
No more Carnal minds.

All renewed and made alive in The Fire. 1Cor. 15:22
For our God is a cunsuming Fire. Heb.12:29

Satan's food is the Carnal mind Gen. 3:14
When the mind is renewed through the Knowledge
of The Truth, hence "The Seal" Satan is Bound, and cast out. John 15:26 luke 10:18

Why is he released for a little season?
So that we may be tried and tested on the Truth
which we have come to know. 1Pet. 1:7
He that has, more shall be given. Luke 12:48
The more you know the more your responsible for.

This is the process that everyone must go through. 1Cor. 3:13
The Carnal minds, wicked and unbelieving minds are destroyed by the Fire.
Tormented in The Presence of The Lamb, Day and Night, this should be
Our first clue, "DAY and NIGHT" has to do with a physical realm and time. Rev. 22:5

The carnal mind is Enmity "Enemy" against God Rom. 8:7
When it has been completly consumed by the Fire,
Then there shall be the New Heaven and New Earth.
And Peace.

And there shall be no more Devil, he is destroyed by the fire.

1,000yrs. is as One Day to The Lord, but to us it is what we live
It is symbolic of our days upon the earth. Look at Adam.
And there is so much more, It is THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST.
2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Blessings

Hi Zone. The cat's out of the bag! Give it up. You must be going out of your mind with all these different characters. I must say, however, it's a bit hard to tell the difference between an Australian Aboriginal and a New Zealand Maouri? ..... If you live in Canada that is! You played Crimson so well, pretending that he didn't know much. An angry young man, concerned with the affairs in USA and Africa, and not nice to people who were taking the time to answer his questions, and then wolla, he's got all this worldy intellegence and knows the bible so well and uses your style of speaking. He even knew my history on this site. I picked it up when he got very nasty. He came after me like you did. Thats when you blew it. I used my detective skills and smelled something very fishy. You should love the brethren. No matter what. Time is short, we have to make the best of it and prove ourselves acceptable to the Lord or we miss out. So what if someone doesn't agree. It's up to them to check things out. Thats our personal responsibility to make sure we are not being decieved.


It's not what goes in man that defiles man, it's what comes out.



I'm sure everyone has been thoroughly entertained. Maybe you might come back as a nice humble christian woman next time.

Good one. You got us good. Lets have a civil debate next time please, and yes, despite your insults, I do love you.

 

[2knowhim]

I assure you I am not Zone,

And I have never insulted you or anyone, and never would.
You must stand in what you believe, and so do I.
I believe in The Salvation of All Mankind, I don't think
Zone does.

Blessings

 

[AnandaHya]

2knowhim is not zone either,

you're accusations are getting more extreme Journey.

believe it or not other people besides Zone disagree with you.

"Maybe you might come back as a nice humble christian woman next time. "

are you going to listen to your own advice or do you have too much Pharisee leaven inside of you to apologize to three people you have falsely slandered as liars and pretenders?

I won't say insulted because no offense being labeled as Zone is more ridiculous then insulting, since none of those three you labeled are her if you even bothered to get to know any of them or Zone beyond exchanging insults and being offended that they don't agree with you. though 2knowhim might agree with more of your doctrines then you think but anyways.

 

[becausehedied]

[/QUOTE]Of course, this new person is you as well! LOL

Journey41 rest assured that Cronjecj is not I. He accused me of being someone else when I first came on this site. If you look at other threads you will see that we disagree strongly on other avenues.

 

[AnandaHya]

this is getting ridiculous.

Cronjecj is from South Africa, you can ask Cobus who is also from S. Africa. Or anyone who has spoken to him on chat.

Zone would never befriend Cobus.

Neither is Cronjecj becauseHedied.

why don't you address the issues instead of slinging around false accusations?

You owe them an apology.

 

[AnandaHya]

How can Satan be bound for a thousand yrs.?

back to the question...

I believe that Satan was bound for a 1000 years, when the church stood firm and united against all heresy and he is now loose and deceiving the nations.

what marks the release of Satan? does anyone know?

2 Thessalonians 2:6-8
New King James Version (NKJV)
6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He[a] who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

Revelations 20

7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.


why do people think 2 thessalonians talk about the false prophet or the beast and not Satan himself?