Sir I don't know if you read what i said or if you responded to the wrong posting, if the seducing spirit, intensified my walk with God higher, then how do you suppose that is taking my eyes off of Jesus Christ. Plus I don't recall even mentioning the Catholics in my post, so I am alittle confused by your post to me? Joe 2:28And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:Joe 2:29And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.Joe 2:30And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.Joe 2:31The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
Brother,
You testified that the "Spirit" stopped you in the middle of your sermon by creating chaos and confusion in the worship place.
If Paul exhorted prophesy so that everyone may be edified and by the Spirit spoke against having time set aside where everyone spoke in tongues in 1 Corinthians 14th chapter, then how is it that you have not discerned this spirit as not of the Lord?
As for the catholic remark... I testified in this thread that the "holy laughter" movement occurred in the catholic churches as well and so it is on that point of the thread that I brought it in to compare your experience with the catholics so that you may discern by the grace of God how inclusive this move of the Spirit is and how not everyone is testing the spirits.
Khundalini... an eastern mysticism will testify to the energizing power of this manifestation coming on them as well as other experiences testified by those that seek after the Holy Spirit or fel;t a spirit moving unto them. This is the reason why it is written to the believers to not believe every spirit but test them.
The "holy laughter" movement is not of the Lord.
I was there in a community church one time visitting my Aunt in Missouri. They had this "outbreak" of the holy laughter movement as well the weekend prior. They showed the video tape of it showing a guest speaker trying to start his sermon on teh tragedy of Samason and Delilah but could not because giggling kept interrupting him.... where evenetually, he and several others just started laughing as he called everyone to come forward and go with whatever the "spirit" was doing. After watching the video, my folks and I preceded to the morning service. The pastor admitted that they did not kinow what the Holy Spirit was doing, but they were going to go with it and he invited everyone to come down and experience that again. Only one young woman laughed while others did body twitching and stuff that makes one wonder what happens when a person has a grand maltese.
In any event, I saw a woman faking it to fit in by coming over to sit in my row of pew to act slain in the spirit as I saw her, but I saw her eyes looking beneathe her eyelids to see if I had noticed her "experience".
I also saw how two guys were told not to push this one guy back because he wanted to feel the Spirit move on himself so bad that he prayed hard with his eyes closed, failing to see the guy waved his hand in front of his face to cuase a draft of air to blow up as this guy yearning for some physical manifestation.. jilted his head up at the wave of the air brushing up his face and jerked and fell back where the other guy caught him and laid him down while both were smirking over this "deception".
By no means am I saying it is all fake, for I did experienced being pushed behind by an unseen hand three times when no one was behind me as in no one was nowhere near me to do that and that is the truth of it, but I apply this verse... greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world. I felt that outside of me and in the world. No one is going to tell me that was the Holy Spirit. The Bible declares it is not.
And the irony of it al was that before I went on my vacation to visit my Aunt, I was reading a line in the Upper Room or the Daily Bread booklet that declared this guantlet: Decide this day whom you will serve: the Lord Jesus Christ or something else in His name. I had such a sense of urgency about it as if the Lord wanted me to make that decision. I answered outloud.. "You of course," but the urgency remained... and so I prayed, "please help me to do this". Then the sense of urgency left.
I am so glad He kept me from falling for it because after being pushed three times from behind, I was confused as to what was going on so I went forward, trusting my Lord to lead me. I asked for healing of my deaf ear and tinnitus in my right ear and just got pushed back was all as I was lowered to the ground. I arose, indigant as I now knew the edging me forward was not of the Lord. I went to my Aunt's house where I was staying and read a newsletter from David Wilkerson on the role of the Holy Spirit and by the scriptures, I saw how the Holy Spirit will not speak of Himself but to testify of Jesus, and yet this spirit was seeking attention and glory in the worship place leading their eyes off of the Son. The promise is that we will know the Holy Spirit by Him dwelling in us and so these spirits that are in the world is not the Holy Spirit nor does He need to come nor should He be addressed in prayer because He is in us always as Jesus is the Monly Mediatror between God and man and thus the go to Person of the Trinity when one comes to God the Father in worship or prayer.
I followed David Wilkerson for a little while and he testified that any seeking signs and wondewrs.. of the Holy Spirit falling on the worship servcie will be disappointed when they come there, but seeing how he talks and writes like.. "the Holy Spirit is brooding over New York City", i wrote to him explaining why those kinds of people were coming to his service... because he talks like them. That was 1994.
If you go to his site now, he not only talks like them but speaks of the Holy Spirit falling on the congregation or comi9ng into the worship place.
What did the Bibloe say? Evil communication corrupts good manners? 1 Corinthians 15:33 Ceratinly a little leaven leavens into a whole lump. Jesus warnd believers to watch and not suffer a thief to break through and what better way bto allow a thief to break through by seeking another spirit to receive?
2 Corinthians 11:
3But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached,
or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
So, yes, brother. I am alerting you to take pause and go to Jesus in prayer because exalting a move of the "Spirit" under the banner of the "holy laughter" movement is not only glorifying something else but serving something else in His name. Paul said this best when having fellowship.
1 Corinthians 2:
2For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
So all the holy laughter did was change the way one worship by falling away from the faith in seeking another spirit to receive... which is a rudiment already found in the world and not after Christ Jesus. Granted the Pentecostal and charismatics wewre known for this, but the catholics as well as the Protestant experienced this as well.
May God cause the increase and give you more discernment. Don't fall for the ratioinalization that the Spirit is Christ because that is still ignoring what the Holy Spirit in you is pointing us to.. the Son... the Bridegroom.. our first love. Yes the Spirit is Christ but wrong application. Jesus is the Way to the Father. To avoid false spirits as well as false prophets, narrow the way back to the straight gate by notb addressing nor worshipping the Holy Spirit for I guarnatee you that the Holy Spirit in you seeks to lead you to honour the Son, (John 5:22-23) and to testify by Him of the Son (John 15:26-27) and not speak of the Holy Spirit in seeking His glory as the Holy Spirit but the gloory of Christ Jesus ( John 16:13-14) for His name is above every other name: Philippians 2:9-11.
It is appalling that many laugh at this and still speak of the Holy Spirit as if it is the same as speaking to Christ Jesus, but yet they will not use the name of Jesus, but the Holy Spirit's. I call this ignoring Whom the Holy Spirit is leading them to testify of and ignoring Whom the Holy Spirit is pointing us to.
We worship God the Father in spirit and in truth through the Son as the Holy Spirit in us is leading us to do. So by what spirit is it that one seeks to glorify the "Spirit" in its move through the churches? The scriptures says ... not the Holy Spirit for He is in us, seeking to glorify the Son. John 16:13-14
