Trinity is a false doctrine

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cronjecj

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i do not believe in the God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, God the Father.

Some say it's biblical.

and the word "trinity" is nowhere found in the bible.

anyone claiming this is saying it backwards.

i believe in The Son of God.

He is the everlasting Father.

Deuteronomy 6:4 (KJV)
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD

what do you believe ?
 
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i do not believe in the God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, God the Father.

Some say it's biblical.

and the word "trinity" is nowhere found in the bible.

anyone claiming this is saying it backwards.

i believe in The Son of God.

He is the everlasting Father.

Deuteronomy 6:4 (KJV)
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD

what do you believe ?
Personally, it doesn't matter to me if one believes in oneness or in the trinity. What is important however, is that they understand the duality of Christ which is the divine blueprint of how the Spirit of God can dwell in a man. Jesus was indeed the Son of God - God in the flesh - but he was also human - he had to deal with human desires and emotions - yet He did so in a manner of complete surrender to the will of God. When you became a Christian, you became 'Christ-like' because the same Spirit of God that resided in Christ now dwells in you. Your job is to study God's word and pray, setting the cares of this world aside and getting into the presence of God that He might teach you how to better live for Him. This is what the scriptures call 'abiding in Christ' & 'walking in the Spirit'.

However, don't take my or anyone else's word for it. Read your bible and seek the presence of God asking Him to teach you Himself. Be diligent and He will honor your request. :)
 
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i do not believe in the God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, God the Father.

Some say it's biblical.

and the word "trinity" is nowhere found in the bible.

anyone claiming this is saying it backwards.

i believe in The Son of God.

He is the everlasting Father.

Deuteronomy 6:4 (KJV)
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD

what do you believe ?
The word bible isn't in the bible either...Just sayin
 

Messenger_T

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Jesus said I and the Father are One. And in John 1 it says that in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. Later in the same chapter it says the WORD became flesh.

If you do not accept what scripture says then how can you believe in the God of scripture?
 
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i do not believe in the God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, God the Father.

i believe in The Son of God.

He is the everlasting Father.

Deuteronomy 6:4 (KJV)
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD

what do you believe ?
Go read Gen. chapter one and focus on God creating. Notice the "God said, let there (and)
God said, let the... Then stop at Gen 1:26 and notice He says something different.

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Whose the "Us?" Only God created. This isn't angels He is speaking to.
Whose likeness? "Our" likeness. Man will be God's highest creation. What did man look
like? Like the Son, the God Man Jesus. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit said, "Let Us make
man in Our likeness." Man wasn't made to look like any other four leg creature, but made to
look like the Son. This is the trinity
 
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Personally, it doesn't matter to me if one believes in oneness or in the trinity.
It does matter. Jesus Himself asked, "Who do you say I am." And later, He asked Philip,
that he had been with Him all this time and didn't know who He was? Jesus was concerned
that they knew who He was.

What is important however, is that they understand the duality of Christ which is the divine blueprint of how the Spirit of God can dwell in a man.
There isn't any duality in Jesus. He isn't part man and part God. He is God Man. There isn't
any seperation between His humanity and His deity. Its all one.
 
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It does matter. Jesus Himself asked, "Who do you say I am." And later, He asked Philip,
that he had been with Him all this time and didn't know who He was? Jesus was concerned
that they knew who He was.

There isn't any duality in Jesus. He isn't part man and part God. He is God Man. There isn't
any seperation between His humanity and His deity. Its all one.
When Jesus asked his disciples - Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? v15) But whom say ye that I am? Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. . . .Blessed art thou Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. (Matt. 16:13,15,16,17)

also recorded in Mark 9:27,29 Whom do men say that I am? v29). . . .But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.

also recorded in Luke 9:18,20 Whom say the people that I am? But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God.


 
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cfultz3

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i do not believe in the God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, God the Father.

Some say it's biblical.

and the word "trinity" is nowhere found in the bible.

anyone claiming this is saying it backwards.

i believe in The Son of God.

He is the everlasting Father.

Deuteronomy 6:4 (KJV)
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD

what do you believe ?
May I ask you about your understanding of :

The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from Heaven. (1Co 15:47)

Jesus Christ is Lord (Php 2:11, Rev 17:14)

Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one LORD (Deut 6:4)

Jehovah shall be king over all the Earth. In that day shall there be one LORD, and His name one (Zec 14:9)

The Lamb is the Lord of lords, and King of Kings (1Ti 6:15, Rev 17:14, 19:16)

Jehovah is my Redeemer (Psa 19:14, 78:35, Isa 41:14, 43:14, 44:6, etc)

Jesus is my Messiah (Christ, Redeemer).



 

cronjecj

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May I ask you about your understanding of :
of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from Heaven.

sin \ death came through the first man adam, life came through the second (Christ)

Jesus Christ is Lord (Php 2:11, Rev 17:14)
yes Jesus Christ is Lord over all becasue is is God.

Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one LORD (Deut 6:4)
yes one God, when He was on the earth as a man He was known as Jesus Christ.

Jehovah shall be king over all the Earth. In that day shall there be one LORD, and His name one
Jesus is Jehova.

The Lamb is the Lord of lords, and King of Kings
Jehovah is my Redeemer (Psa 19:14, 78:35, Isa 41:14, 43:14, 44:6, etc)
Jesus is God, that is why.

Jesus is my Messiah (Christ, Redeemer)
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Messiah = God coming in the flesh to dwell among men to rescue His people.
 

cronjecj

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Go read Gen. chapter one and focus on God creating. Notice the "God said, let there (and)
God said, let the... Then stop at Gen 1:26 and notice He says something different.

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Whose the "Us?" Only God created. This isn't angels He is speaking to.
Whose likeness? "Our" likeness. Man will be God's highest creation. What did man look
like? Like the Son, the God Man Jesus. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit said, "Let Us make
man in Our likeness." Man wasn't made to look like any other four leg creature, but made to
look like the Son. This is the trinity
is Jesus a created being?
 

cronjecj

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The word bible isn't in the bible either...Just sayin
are you looking for my attention or are you actually going to answer the question from op?.....just asking
 

cronjecj

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Go read Gen. chapter one and focus on God creating. Notice the "God said, let there (and)
God said, let the... Then stop at Gen 1:26 and notice He says something different.

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Whose the "Us?" Only God created. This isn't angels He is speaking to.
Whose likeness? "Our" likeness. Man will be God's highest creation. What did man look
like? Like the Son, the God Man Jesus. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit said, "Let Us make
man in Our likeness." Man wasn't made to look like any other four leg creature, but made to
look like the Son. This is the trinity
God is Spirit, the Holy Spirit who overshadowed Mary and begat God in the flesh. Jesus was not God’s Son in the beginning for He was not yet begotten (born). God is a 'person' (singular) as shown in Job 13:8 and Heb 1:3 and His visible 'person' is His Christ.

go read John 1:1-14, and focus on the oneness of the Lord.
 

cronjecj

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There are different views being taught in the Christian world today about Genesis 1:26-27, which states “Then God said, ‘Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.’ God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." This study may be a bit overwhelming or "blow your mind", but here we go!

Who is God speaking to in this passage? One teaching is that God is speaking to Himself. This view imagines the Father, Son and Holy Spirit conversing with each other, and maintains that the heavenly host were not made in God's image. The Bible does not confirm this view, so it is assumed. As we delve further into this study, we will find the mystery unveiled, not only in the literal Hebrew wording of Gen 1:26, but in the definitions of "God" and “image". This leads us to the second teaching, which is that God very well could have been speaking to His heavenly host - His angels and magistrates.

If you look up the Hebrew wording of Gen 1:26, note "Let Us" is not in the text!This verse literally states, "Said God make man Our image to Our likeness, rule the fish of the sea the birds of the sky the cattle all the earth every creeping creeps on the earth". This does not compromise the second view, in that God created man in His OWN image [singular] (vs.27), yet in the image and likeness of the heavenly host, when it comes to governance.
 
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is Jesus a created being?

Psa 80:17 Let thy hand be upon the man of thy right hand, upon the son of man whom thou madest strong for thyself.

That body, the Lord was in, was created by Himself and for Himself. And as Jesus said,
Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
 
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God is Spirit, the Holy Spirit who overshadowed Mary and begat God in the flesh. Jesus was not God’s Son in the beginning for He was not yet begotten (born). God is a 'person' (singular) as shown in Job 13:8 and Heb 1:3 and His visible 'person' is His Christ.

go read John 1:1-14, and focus on the oneness of the Lord.
Joh 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
 
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God is Spirit, the Holy Spirit who overshadowed Mary and begat God in the flesh. Jesus was not God’s Son in the beginning for He was not yet begotten (born). God is a 'person' (singular) as shown in Job 13:8 and Heb 1:3 and His visible 'person' is His Christ.

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. (plural)
 

cronjecj

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Psa 80:17 Let thy hand be upon the man of thy right hand, upon the son of man whom thou madest strong for thyself.

That body, the Lord was in, was created by Himself and for Himself. And as Jesus said,
Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
was it created for himself? careful now