Will The AntiChrist Control The Whole World?

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I have always believed that the antichrist will control the whole world but have just started studying the subject and I'm starting to believe that although the whole world will be effected by him he will not actually conquer the world?
Can anyone point to me scriptures for or against this belief?
 
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4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations(Revelation 13:4-7).


All the people of the world worships the antichrist,and they say who can make war with him,which would mean the antichrist has control in the world,which God gives him this control for three and one half years.


1Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle(Zechariah 14:1-3).


God is going to gather all nations together against Jerusalem and the antichrist will rule over the nations,who is the 8th king of Revelation.

In Daniel chapter 11 it shows the antichrist warring physically for power,and some countries escape him,but in chapter 12 it shows trouble like never before,which means the antichrist has control of the world.
 
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I have always believed that the antichrist will control the whole world but have just started studying the subject and I'm starting to believe that although the whole world will be effected by him he will not actually conquer the world?
Can anyone point to me scriptures for or against this belief?
Well for starters if you wanna learn about this subject in much greater depth here's what you do.

Get the Alex Jones app for your smart phone. He often talks about the subject. Or google infowars

I think he will control everyone at some point. It's not hard at all to wrap your mind around the way technology is going. It's gonna control our whole lives in short order. Another decade or two and we'll start to see the beginnings of a whole new era unlike anyone's ever dreampt of.
 

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Well for starters if you wanna learn about this subject in much greater depth here's what you do.

Get the Alex Jones app for your smart phone. He often talks about the subject. Or google infowars

I think he will control everyone at some point. It's not hard at all to wrap your mind around the way technology is going. It's gonna control our whole lives in short order. Another decade or two and we'll start to see the beginnings of a whole new era unlike anyone's ever dreampt of.

Forget alex jones, the Bible tells you what happens in Revelation.
 
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Abiding

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Forget alex jones, the Bible tells you what happens in Revelation.

Hahaha. alex jones vrs. the bible.
good advice. hahahahahahahaha
 
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Hey the week thing. Dispie assertion. Dan9 is fulfilled. Read Pauls lead in in 2 Thess 2
Then let Revelation fit with that. Remember Revelation has had a onetime(partial)
through in 70ad. That fact should have you compare Mathew 24 with revelation.
Then a partial rerun will happen according to 2 Thess 2. The answer is yes.
But for a little season only.
 
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i don't know if the beast will control the whole world politically or economically or militarily...but those aren't the only ways someone can control the world...
 
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dishchat

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Yes. the antichrist will control of the world
 
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doulos

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Minich Actually it isn't the antichrist that controls the world in the end. There are only 4 verses in Scripture that tell us about antichrists and all of them tell us there are many. None of those say antichrist will control the world. Unfortunately most endtime doctrines mistakenly call the beast the antichrist but as Scripture and history prove beasts are kingdoms. Our battle is a spiritual battle so this leopard, bear lion beast is a spiritual kingdom. A kingdom started by a false prophet that teaches the exact opposite of the Gospel and requires all of it's folowers to be antichrist as it requires all of it's followers to deny God has a Son. As of right now that spiritual kingdom controls the geographic area that were once occupird by Danirl's leopard, bear and lion kingdoms. Ethnographically speaking what was John's whole world is now controlled by the beast.
 
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Minich Actually it isn't the antichrist that controls the world in the end. There are only 4 verses in Scripture that tell us about antichrists and all of them tell us there are many. None of those say antichrist will control the world. Unfortunately most endtime doctrines mistakenly call the beast the antichrist but as Scripture and history prove beasts are kingdoms. Our battle is a spiritual battle so this leopard, bear lion beast is a spiritual kingdom. A kingdom started by a false prophet that teaches the exact opposite of the Gospel and requires all of it's folowers to be antichrist as it requires all of it's followers to deny God has a Son. As of right now that spiritual kingdom controls the geographic area that were once occupird by Danirl's leopard, bear and lion kingdoms. Ethnographically speaking what was John's whole world is now controlled by the beast.
i think you are on to something!
 

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I probably need to read over that scripture, but doesnt the bible say that 666 is the number of a man?
 
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I probably need to read over that scripture, but doesnt the bible say that 666 is the number of a man?

Do a yahoo earch for submission quaran 666 or a google searh of quran 666 You might be suprised by what you'll find. The submission sect of Islam (Bahattin Uzankaya) considers the number 666 as well as the number 19 yo demonstrate the perfecction of the Joran (Quran) and proof that Muhammed is the prophet of allah.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

As the above verse shows the beast has the number of a man. That man is the prophet Muhammed.

On an interesting side note on the Zola Levitt program, Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist now Christian evangelist, said that when he saw the Greek symbol that is translated in the Bible as 666, he immediately read it as the Arabic character “Bismillah” (some spell Bismilla) which means "in the name of Allah." (Though it looks more like the character for "Allah").
 
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Minich Actually it isn't the antichrist that controls the world in the end. There are only 4 verses in Scripture that tell us about antichrists and all of them tell us there are many. None of those say antichrist will control the world. .

You have managed to turn these verses around and say an antichrist shall not come, when it says an antichrist shall come, well-done it must be a miracle.

1 John 2:18Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1 John 4:3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.


And even in Jesus’s own words.

John14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

John12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

Unfortunately most endtime doctrines mistakenly call the beast the antichrist but as Scripture and history prove beasts are kingdoms. . .

I have problems with that, beasts are kingdoms but every kingdom has a king.

John says there are 7 kingdoms and the last kingdom will have 10 horns which are 10 kings.

10 kings that shall arise in the end. So you have 10 kings in the end, and all we need is another one to show that there is a king in the end.

And Daniel says when talking about the ten horns says they are kings and another little horn comes up and he shall subdue three kings.

in the end there are 10 kings and after that there in one more.

Horns are kings and there is one king/antichrist in the end.

Daniel7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn [were] eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

20 And of the ten horns that [were] in his head, and [of] the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even [of] that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look [was] more stout than his fellows.

24And the ten horns out of this kingdom [are] ten kings [that] shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Rv17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.


. Our battle is a spiritual battle so this leopard, bear lion beast is a spiritual kingdom. .
Yes it’s a spiritual battle, but who do you think killed Jesus and the disciples and the prophets, a spiritual battle or someone in the flesh.
 
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You have managed to turn these verses around and say an antichrist shall not come, when it says an antichrist shall come, well-done it must be a miracle.

1 John 2:18Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1 John 4:3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Had you highlited the rest of ! John4:3 you might have noticed that John also said "and even now already is it in the world" If it was already in the world then it isn't still in the future. That spirit of antichrist is what has been misleading all the antichrists from that day on.

And even in Jesus’s own word.
John14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me
Might I suggest you read what Matthew Henry had to say on the subject.
" That he was sure of a victory over Satan, with whom he knew he was to have a struggle in his departure (Joh_14:30): "Henceforth I will not talk much with you, having not much to say, but what may be adjourned to the pouring out of the Spirit." He had a great deal of good talk with them after this (ch. 15 and 16), but, in comparison with what he had said, it was not much. His time was now short, and he therefore spoke largely to them now, because the opportunity would soon be over."

John12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Christ was telling us that He would defeat satan and indeed He did. Once again for a more thorough explanation might I suggest you read what Matthew Henry had to say on the subject.

I have problems with that, beasts are kingdoms but every kingdom has a king.
John says there are 7 kingdoms and the last kingdom will have 10 horns which are 10 kings.
Actually John tells us there are 8 beasts (which are kingdoms) but only 7 kings.
Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
Have you considered that when the seventh beast recieves the deadly wound that it comes back with out a king. It does appear that the spiritual kingdom of Islam all though not united under an individual leader is waging an effective Jihad against the Christians and Jews in much of the world today. How many terrorist attacks have the muslims been involved in just since 9/11? How many Christians have been killed in Africa alone by the muslims? Need I continue?


10 kings that shall arise in the end. So you have 10 kings in the end, and all we need is another one to show that there is a king in the end.
And Daniel says when talking about the ten horns says they are kings and another little horn comes up and he shall subdue three kings.

in the end there are 10 kings and after that there in one more.

Horns are kings and there is one king/antichrist in the end.

Daniel7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn [were] eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

20 And of the ten horns that [were] in his head, and [of] the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even [of] that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look [was] more stout than his fellows.

24And the ten horns out of this kingdom [are] ten kings [that] shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Rv17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

Might I suggest you do a little research on the club of Rome. You might be suprised by what you find.



Yes it’s a spiritual battle, but who do you think killed Jesus and the disciples and the prophets, a spiritual battle or someone in the flesh.
Just as you and I are in Christ's kingdom those in the spiritual kingdom of Islam are also human and as anyone can see they are doing exactly what Sura9:29 tells them to do. And that my friend is to kill those who (especially those of the book Jews and Christians) that refuse to submit to Islam
 
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Might I suggest you read what Matthew Henry had to say on the subject.
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Christ was telling us that He would defeat satan and indeed He did. Once again for a more thorough explanation might I suggest you read what Matthew Henry had to say on the subject.



. It does appear that the spiritual kingdom of Islam all though not united under an individual leader is waging an effective Jihad against the Christians and Jews in much of the world today. How many terrorist attacks have the muslims been involved in just since 9/11? How many Christians have been killed in Africa alone by the muslims? Need I continue?



Just as you and I are in Christ's kingdom those in the spiritual kingdom of Islam are also human and as anyone can see they are doing exactly what Sura9:29 tells them to do. And that my friend is to kill those who (especially those of the book Jews and Christians) that refuse to submit to Islam

Sorry buddy but you have shown nothing from scripture that there is no king /Antichrist in the last days.
But you have managed to turn this verse around and say in the last times no antichrist shall come.

1 John 2:18Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Yes there are many Antichrists in the world but you have shown nothing to say there is one Antichrist /king in the end, but you have shown Speculation which is not Bible scripture.

You have shown nothing from scripture that Islam will be the domineering force in the last days, you could have said that about the Germans killing the Jews in WW2 it means nothing.
Islam can raise its ugly head as much it likes. Because when the devil comes he will come as an angel of light deceiving all the world including Islam.
 
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peterT

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Might I suggest you read what Matthew Henry had to say on the subject.

Matthew Henry had to say on the subject.
Might I suggest you do a little research on the club of Rome. You might be suprised by what you find.
Club of Rome.?
Matthew Henry ?
I have an author for you Jesus Christ and his book the holy the Bible
I think I will stick to the Bible thanks, and I think that’s what you should have done too.




Actually John tells us there are 8 beasts (which are kingdoms) but only 7 kings.

seven heads, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven.

Rv17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

10 kings and the little horn make 11 kings, takeaway 3 kings that are plucked up by the roots, that makes 8 kings the 8th but of the 7th

Daniel7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn [were] eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

20 And of the ten horns that [were] in his head, and [of] the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even [of] that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look [was] more stout than his fellows.

24And the ten horns out of this kingdom [are] ten kings [that] shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
 

loveme1

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I probably need to read over that scripture, but doesnt the bible say that 666 is the number of a man?

It is a clue, at the right time that number means something, at the time it was said, the people would not of understood it.

In the right season you can see who it applies to.
 
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Asking if THE Anti-Christ will control the entire world starts from an assumption that there is to be one super world leader that dispensationalists agree is their anti-Christ (and they are not likely to agree on who it is).

Instead of following a man-made theology and guys like Hal Lindsey, learn how to use a good concordance. Look up anti-Christ and false prophets. Most of what the Bible says about the spirit of anti-Christ is in I John 2: 18-19 and I John 4: 1-3. The spirit of anti-Christ is said to be the belief that "every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in he flesh is not of God; and this is that spirit of anti-Christ, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world..."

Those who have the spirit of anti-Christ reject Jesus Christ as having come in human flesh, who is fully God, and is the only way to salvation.

If you have a good concordance look up "prophet," and then "pseudoprophetes." Matthew 7: 15, Matthew 24: 11, Matthew 24: 23, Mark 13: 22, Luke 6: 26, II Peter 2: 1, and I John 4: 1 all speak of false prophets, not one super false prophet.

There is a spirit of anti-Christ - and not THE Anti-Christ. You could say there is an office of anti-Christ, just as there is an office of False Prophet, but more than one guy sits in that office at any point in time. John Hagee is not the only guy who now sits in the office of False Prophet. The "man of sin" in II Thessalonians 2: 3 can be seen as an office. Is it the office of the anti-Christ, or the office of the false prophet?

There is a difference between the office of the anti-Christ and that of the False Prophet. The anti-Christ rejects Jesus Christ in some way, which can be deceptive, as when Old Covenant shadows are mixed in with New Covenant substances. The False Prophet claims to accept Jesus Christ as presented in the Gospel, but promotes another Gospel, a false doctrine.

You can ask if what is called the "New World Order" will control the entire world. The answer is probably that it will control the nations of the North (Daniel 11), but may not be in complete control of all nations of the south (mostly Islamic) except when the Islamic nations are conquered as with Iraq. And some Third World nations may not be completely under the domination of Transformational Marxism which is almost the same thing as the New World Order. We live under Transformational Marxism and the church is also under its control.
 
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John declares that MANY antichrists have risen. There is no ONE specific person who is the antichrist.
1 John 2:18-22
18Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
20But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.d 21I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son

John’s references to “antichrist” reveals that the term is a general designation employed to suggest a spirit of unbelief that can be manifested in a variety of ways, both in the past and present.

So, as far as the reference in Revelation, PLEASE keep in mind that the beast in this book was not of literal meaning. It was symbolic. Revelation is taken way too literal. That book was written for Christians of that time as a sign of hope and goodness prevailing. When John had his vision Christians were being persecuted. Reveltion showed early Christians that it would end.
 
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