I'm glad you asked, as THIS is the point of this thread.
First of all, we know men are visual. Women, for the most part, are not, but CAN BE. So, it is just as important for men to dress modestly. How many guys do you know who think there's no harm in a guy running around shirtless or in tight jeans?
Secondly, men SAY they want modest christian ladies, but what happens when there is a room full of modest christian ladies and ladies who are not dressed as modestly? Where does the attention of the guys go? Ladies are paying attention when that happens and it negates everything guys say about wanting us to dress modestly when it does. And it WILL pretty much every time...
I read this somehwere and thought it is worth mentioning. A girl dressing immodestly is like putting a veil over a painting. You know there is a painting behind the veil and you want to see it. We (guys) can't let this be an excuse but maybe that explains it in a way ladies can understand? It's unfortunate but I know it happens to me.
Who gets asked out? The modestly dressed, quiet spirited girl described by Peter and Paul? Or the girl who dresses in a way she knows will get male attention (which is what I meant when I said that women know how to use the lustfulness of men against them). When women see this, will they continue to believe men want them to dress modestly?
Neither by me. But seriously, I think if a man knows what it is all about it will be the modest woman. attention is one thing, asking someone out as another. I've never asked out a girl, but if a girl isn't dressed modestly, honestly i'm not going to ask you out. As the video posted in abother thread said, it is immensely harder to have a conversation/friendship with a girl when she isn't dressed modestly
Some men think they are somehow complimenting women when they make remarks about a woman's body parts. If that woman is a modest christian woman, this can lead to issues that can make her uncomfortable in the presence of her spouse at some point, as she may feel she doesn't...umm..stack up. I've known women where this alone has lead to marital issues due to the woman having hangups that interferred with her marital intimacy.
I'm going to be perfectly honest right here and say that I stopped playing volleyball in jr high because of comments guys made about my body from the bleachers that they THOUGHT I would deem as flattering in some way, but because of my faith and modesty, only served to make me self-conscious and shy before I married a man who knew how to respect a lady.
Those very same comments can have the exact opposite affect on a young woman who is starved for attention at home. She may indeed find them flattering and may be convinced that guys are actually complimenting her or even CARE about her in some way. And may go from guy to guy to guy mistaking lust for love, as in what Oncefallen's mom told him.
Some things guys say to women can lead them to wonder about things they would never have on their own. I don't want to be more specific than that. Mull that one over on your own.
I guess what I'm trying to get to is this, while men are tempted by what we wear, women can be DEEPLY affected by a man's reaction to them, whether that reaction is positive or negative. It's important that your words match your deeds. If you want to marry a modest, quiet spirited woman, then DATE THEM, not every other little hottie that comes alone in the meantime. If you are bothered by what women wear and want ladies to dress in more modest ways, then PROVE IT by focusing your attention on THEM rather than obviously drooling over the woman who knows what she has and knows how to flaunt it.
And that is why I asked the question, that answer alone would have been sufficient, the rest is just an added bonus. And like the video says that was posted in another thread it is a battle everyday so it IS difficult to NOT get attention to the immodest(at least for me).
Women are taught that there are women men date and women men marry. We know that some guys will say anything to get what they want and we'll be stuck with the aftermath. That's why we're watching so closely. A man's actions are FAR more important to a woman than his words. We've heard the songs many times. We want to know you mean them.
I'm sure there are women out there who aren't thrilled about my honesty. Maybe some men too. But I've never been into games much and the man vs women thing gets a little old sometimes. At some point, communication needs to break out in a respectful way.