A question

[wolfywolfs]

the first thing what people seem to say to non believers like me is why don't you believe well im going to ask you a question and more than likely the answer you give me from this question will be the reason why i dont believe

but before i ask i need to tell alittle back story ill keep it short

there was an animator on the web he started in early 2000 his early teens his animations were bad to begin with but the storys he came up with and the voice acting was good enough to over come that and he made a really good show it made people laugh and be happy through out the years he got better and more famous and as a person he was really funny likable and kind and would help others with there own animation production he became one of the best animators on the web but one day he got cancer and after a 6 year long battle he died thousands of fans moarned his death thinking why such a kind funny person who gave us joy and entertainment in our lives be taken away at such a young age. people made tribute videos art works everything to show there respect for him and gave him a good send of we will all miss him he was one of my inspirations to carry on through life and get better at my own work.

now this is my question this animator was not a christian he didnt belong to any religion, would this animator who has done nothing wrong in his life and has showed kindness and made peoples lives a little bit better all over the world be sent to hell

that is my question

 

[Kishalishali]

I'd say, it depends. Did he ever hear about Jesus? If so, did he make an effort to shape his life after Jesus' ? If no then I think he is not heading to heaven(ouch, sounds harsh, I know). Maybe there's a temporary hell(i thinks it's called purgatory or something) where the good guys suffer for a while then are admitted to heaven. I'm not sure, so don't take my view seriously.

 

[River_W]

Even as a Christian, this is something that I struggle with because some of my good friends as not Christian.

Here's the thing: You say that the animator did nothing wrong in his life. Nobody is sinless, though. Even the people we would to very high esteem do non-virtuous things, big and little. But I take that you mean he was an overall altruistic guy, which is good. God honors that.

Now: John 3:16-"-For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son."
--Echoing what Kishalishali, if the guy purposely denied the salvation God has given us through Jesus, then I'm not sure if the outlook looks so good, unfortunately.

However: Isaiah 55:6-8--"Seek the Lord while He may be found; Call upon Him while He is near. Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts; And let him return to the Lord and He will have compassion on him and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon. “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways My ways,” declares the Lord. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth. So are My ways higher than your ways. And My thoughts than your thoughts.
--Even though the first part of this verse applies to a God fearing person, God's ways are still not our ways. God is perfect in love and mercy, but also perfect in judgement. As humans, we cannot say for sure how God will judge someone else. There will always be that gray area where people ask, "But if she was selfless...," or "If he never heard of Jesus.."

The animator may or may not have had a choice to accept eternal life, and I believe that God would judge him accordingly. Just keep in mind that denying God comes with consequences, no matter how "good" we are.

I pray that the answers to the questions that you have do not continue to make Christianity more and more unappealing to you. Rather, that they give you hope and faith.

In Christ,
River

 

[Ugly]

Its simple. Heaven isn't a reward for people who do good things. We're all born doing bad. I can't think of one person i've ever met that hasn't done something wrong. God sets standards. 'This is wrong to do, and is a sin to disobey'. We all disobey, so as a result, we become sinful. Its born in us, sadly. But God says there has to be a punishment for this, because sin is a big deal. God doesn't want us punished though, but like any good parent, He can't let disobediance slide. But He does provide a way out from this punishment, but first we have to understand that we deserve our punishment, and that He is acting out of love to take on the punishment Himself. Not to spoil us, but in hopes we grasp the size of the sacrifice He gave by saving us.
This is why God often emphasizes that 'works', or doing good deeds, does not get us into heaven. Being a good person does not stop the effects of sin. Only one thing stops the effects of sin, the blood and forgiveness of Christ. Period. Nothing else. Good deeds do no wipe away sins.

 

[wolfywolfs]

Its simple. Heaven isn't a reward for people who do good things. We're all born doing bad. I can't think of one person i've ever met that hasn't done something wrong. God sets standards. 'This is wrong to do, and is a sin to disobey'. We all disobey, so as a result, we become sinful. Its born in us, sadly. But God says there has to be a punishment for this, because sin is a big deal. God doesn't want us punished though, but like any good parent, He can't let disobediance slide. But He does provide a way out from this punishment, but first we have to understand that we deserve our punishment, and that He is acting out of love to take on the punishment Himself. Not to spoil us, but in hopes we grasp the size of the sacrifice He gave by saving us.
This is why God often emphasizes that 'works', or doing good deeds, does not get us into heaven. Being a good person does not stop the effects of sin. Only one thing stops the effects of sin, the blood and forgiveness of Christ. Period. Nothing else. Good deeds do no wipe away sins.

so what your saying doesn't matter if your good or bad as long as you believe and ask for forgiveness before you die its fine

so by all accounts if Hitler accepted christian and said hes sorry for all hes done he was a with hatred filled with lies that others told him. he would go to heaven right. this is just an example im not saying hitler was a chrisitan or hes in heaven .

 

[answers]

Gosh, I am a why, or why not, or what if, or how person too. It is so hard to have faith, to believe in something we can question, that we cannot see, sometimes not feel, something we a lot of the times misunderstand.
I understand being conflicted in your belief about God when you are looking at something earthly. We are all sinners, we are unable to answer a question to this magnitude, but I will tell you, as my faith grows, my clarity does too. I don't find myself wondering, or questioning as much.

In 2009, I lost my dad unexpectedly. My life with my dad was anything but (worldly image) Godly. My dad hardly ever kept a job, was a huge liar, used drugs and alcohol and was physically and emotionally abusive. My dad never was sober while I was growing up. He, for the first time, was sober in Jan. 09'. Me, being the human I am struggled to allow him to be close to me, but God reminded me I am not his judge. So, I visited my dad, talked to him on the phone and shared a few laughs.
On April 29 09', me, my husband, and two of my kids were about to walk out the door, to ride our bikes to see my dad, when the phone rang. Some lady asked for me and I answered to get told your dad is dead! At first I didn't believe, but she assured me. My dad was found sitting up in his bed, dead. The reason I am sharing this is I am not God/Jesus and I will never be able to figure out or understand why it was his time, and whether or not he went to Heaven.

There are many things that are unknown, not understood, not seen with our human eye that exist, but that does not make them not real. I will tell you from my human, sinning self that God is real, faith is eye opening, and your inspirer sounds like a great human. God is his only judge and maybe if you become closer to him, he will shed some light on this topic for you.
For what it is worth, the inspiration you gained from your human animator could be amplified with a growing, never ending inspiration from our lord. You could take your inspirer's legacy to new and higher limits.

I feel your sorrow, and so does God. Let him heal!

 

[wwjd_kilden]

so what your saying doesn't matter if your good or bad as long as you believe and ask for forgiveness before you die its fine

so by all accounts if Hitler accepted christian and said hes sorry for all hes done he was a with hatred filled with lies that others told him. he would go to heaven right. this is just an example im not saying hitler was a chrisitan or hes in heaven .

Faith SAVES. Jesus takes our sin onto Him. However:
"If I have faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I gain nothing"

And, I should point out. To God, sin is sin. So, if you ever THOUGHT of doing a sin, in His eyes, you did it.
By the bible, anger, insulting others, jealousy...... = sin = death.

So, whether you like it or not, by God's standard, you, I, everyone on this site, are just as bad as Hitler.
It is only the sacrifice of Jesus that washes us clean

 

[wolfywolfs]

Faith SAVES. Jesus takes our sin onto Him. However:
"If I have faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I gain nothing"

And, I should point out. To God, sin is sin. So, if you ever THOUGHT of doing a sin, in His eyes, you did it.
By the bible, anger, insulting others, jealousy...... = sin = death.

So, whether you like it or not, by God's standard, you, I, everyone on this site, are just as bad as Hitler.
It is only the sacrifice of Jesus that washes us clean

so if a child that lives on the street stole some food so that he/she may live another day or share with a friend so they both can live your saying they would be as bad as hitler and judge the same way

 

[wwjd_kilden]

I am not God.

 

[wolfywolfs]

I am not God.

30 minutes ago you just said everyone on here is just as bad as hitler in the eyes of god.

i gave you a scenario that does happen and asked if your way of thinking still applied and all i got was i am not god

a yes or no was what i was looking for. you give the impression you know gods standards so im curious as to why you couldn't answer my question

 

[wwjd_kilden]

The bible says ALL have sinned. So thus, even children are sinful yes. However, the bible tells us to become like children to receive the Kingdom of God, so I trust Him to have a plan for that.

 

[wolfywolfs]

The bible says ALL have sinned. So thus, even children are sinful yes. However, the bible tells us to become like children to receive the Kingdom of God, so I trust Him to have a plan for that.

and if he doesnt

 

[wwjd_kilden]

Then that is His decision, not mine. Again, I am not God.

 

[wolfywolfs]

yep im put of even more

 

[Tommy4Christ]

Mat 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord! Lord! shall enter the kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in Heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to Me in that day, Lord! Lord! Did we not prophesy in Your name, and through Your name throw out demons, and through Your name do many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then I will say to them I never knew you! Depart from Me, those working lawlessness!

Luk 13:23 And one said to Him, Lord, are the ones being saved few? And He said to them,
Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the narrow gate. For I say to you, many will seek to enter in and shall not be able.

Joh 14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but by Me.

The road is narrow indeed! few will be saved, Jesus made it clear!

The way is narrow indeed!​

Those who have ears to hear, throw out all you have learned about saved IN sin, God is calling you out of the system of lies, and stop defending sin!

You say I am not defending sin, you say you have to obey, then you say in another breath, well you can sin a bit and all is well, or that the grace of God covers a struggling convert in his vile sins until God delivers them.

This is the lie from the pit, the soul who sin will die, please go back and do your first works, Rev 2-5, seek His mercy as the prodigal son did, and follow Jesus on the narrow path.

Rev 2:5 Therefore remember from where you have fallen, and repent, and do the first works, or else I will come to you quickly and will remove your lampstand out of its place unless you repent.

If you are still in bondage to sin, you need to do this:

Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Then you must crucify your flesh once and for all with Christ, He isn't your provision, you can do it, you have free will:

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Which leads to this:

Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Then you obey Jesus from your heart"

Act 5:32 And we are His witnesses of these things. And so also is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey Him.

And keep obeying from your heart, guarding your heart from the evils and distractions of the world:

1Jn 2:15 Do not love the world, nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him,
1Jn 2:16 because all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1Jn 2:17 And the world passes away, and the lust of it, but he who does the will of God abides forever.

But if you are still in some form of bondage to sin and disobedience then this awaits:

Eph 5:3 For let fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness not be once named among you, as becomes saints,
Eph 5:4 neither baseness, foolish talking, jesting, which are not becoming, but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For you know this, that no fornicator, or unclean person, or covetous one (who is an idolater), has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7 Therefore do not be partakers with them.

The sin stops in repentance, or the heart hardens to sin, Jesus came to set mankind free from the bondages of sin, not in them so His grace can cover them! This grace has something to teach us!

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 teaching us that having denied ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live discreetly, righteously and godly, in this present world,

WE must then walk a walk worthy of our calling, not in perfection as you think it is, but by a heart made pure through obedience to the truth, walking in the spirit, and not giving provision for the flesh:

Rom 8:13 For if you live according to the flesh, you shall die. But if you through the Spirit mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

WE do this out of love, fear and total respect and reverence to an all Holy God, who sent His son to die for all our past sins:

Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God.

And now are responsible for our actions and behavior, because God doesn't wink at deliberate rebellion to Him, he gives us all a way out:

1Co 10:13 No temptation has taken you but what is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted above what you are able, but with the temptation also will make a way to escape, so that you may be able to bear it.
1Co 10:14 Therefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.

Jesus didn't obey for you, or take your wrath on the cross or somehow transfer His righteousness to you, because you were told you were born a sinner, and unable to repent, and fall at His feet seeking His mercy!

Jon 3:9 Who knows? He may repent, and God may have pity and turn away from the glow of His anger, so that we do not perish.
Jon 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way. And God was compassionate over the evil that He had said to do to them, and He did not do it.

The message is clear, the message is simple, it’s not of our own righteousness, it’s just the right thing to do, because God commands it, the spirit will assist in all things, but the repentance must be through and complete, not to earn anything from God, but to come to self, to end rebellion towards God, and clear the heart to prepare it to receive salvation, thus a new creation, made pure through repentance and faith proven by deeds!

1Pe 1:21 those believing in God through Him, He who raised Him up from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope might be in God.
1Pe 1:22 Purifying your souls in the obedience of the truth through the Spirit to unfeigned love of the brothers, love one another fervently out of a pure heart,
1Pe 1:23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the living Word of God, and abiding forever.
1Pe 1:24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of men as the flower of the grass. The grass withers, and its flower falls out.

1Pe 1:25 but the Word of the Lord endures forever. And this is the Word preached as gospel to you.

Adding your own conceived notions and false teachings to the pure word of God has dire consequences, get back to the basic gospel according to godliness, handed down to the saints, start a new foundation, built on truth, not on sinking sand coming from all the many reformed and Calvinistic teachings that get mankind saved in their sins, you were born a sinner, you are the Romans wretch, or the big lie from the wolves, Jesus is your substitute and cover, just trust and receive Him and you are saved, but Jesus said this:

Luk 13:3 I tell you, No. But unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.

Remember, adding to the word is very dangerous, and the doctrines of Christ must be kept pure an undefiled!

2Jn 1:9 Everyone transgressing and not abiding in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son.

You can argue all you want about who will go to heaven, and God is NOT a respector of persons, repentance isnt some cheap confession on your death bed, saying you are sorry for your sins,God is patient and merciful, not wanting any to perish, but all to come to repentance! Which is the sin stops or the heart hardens! Many will not find repentance, they forsook the truth for a lie, like most churches have today, the mark has been given and freely received, that says you can be double minded, and still make into heaven, read the word, and seek His great mercy while you still have breath!
You can do all the good works in the world, but still be defiled in your heart, read the book of Revelation, the most giving and serving church, filled with good works, was defiled to the core, and Jesus rebuked them!

We are not born sinners, mankind has a free will choice to either obey God and live, or obey thier flesh and die!

Dont blame God for your so called sin nature, He made mankind upright and good, but they out of choice sought out many schmes! ECC 7-29.

 

[wolfywolfs]

Mat 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord! Lord! shall enter the kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in Heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to Me in that day, Lord! Lord! Did we not prophesy in Your name, and through Your name throw out demons, and through Your name do many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then I will say to them I never knew you! Depart from Me, those working lawlessness!

Luk 13:23 And one said to Him, Lord, are the ones being saved few? And He said to them,
Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the narrow gate. For I say to you, many will seek to enter in and shall not be able.

Joh 14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but by Me.

The road is narrow indeed! few will be saved, Jesus made it clear!

The way is narrow indeed!​

Those who have ears to hear, throw out all you have learned about saved IN sin, God is calling you out of the system of lies, and stop defending sin!

You say I am not defending sin, you say you have to obey, then you say in another breath, well you can sin a bit and all is well, or that the grace of God covers a struggling convert in his vile sins until God delivers them.

This is the lie from the pit, the soul who sin will die, please go back and do your first works, Rev 2-5, seek His mercy as the prodigal son did, and follow Jesus on the narrow path.

Rev 2:5 Therefore remember from where you have fallen, and repent, and do the first works, or else I will come to you quickly and will remove your lampstand out of its place unless you repent.

If you are still in bondage to sin, you need to do this:

Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Then you must crucify your flesh once and for all with Christ, He isn't your provision, you can do it, you have free will:

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Which leads to this:

Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Then you obey Jesus from your heart"

Act 5:32 And we are His witnesses of these things. And so also is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey Him.

And keep obeying from your heart, guarding your heart from the evils and distractions of the world:

1Jn 2:15 Do not love the world, nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him,
1Jn 2:16 because all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1Jn 2:17 And the world passes away, and the lust of it, but he who does the will of God abides forever.

But if you are still in some form of bondage to sin and disobedience then this awaits:

Eph 5:3 For let fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness not be once named among you, as becomes saints,
Eph 5:4 neither baseness, foolish talking, jesting, which are not becoming, but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For you know this, that no fornicator, or unclean person, or covetous one (who is an idolater), has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7 Therefore do not be partakers with them.

The sin stops in repentance, or the heart hardens to sin, Jesus came to set mankind free from the bondages of sin, not in them so His grace can cover them! This grace has something to teach us!

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 teaching us that having denied ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live discreetly, righteously and godly, in this present world,

WE must then walk a walk worthy of our calling, not in perfection as you think it is, but by a heart made pure through obedience to the truth, walking in the spirit, and not giving provision for the flesh:

Rom 8:13 For if you live according to the flesh, you shall die. But if you through the Spirit mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

WE do this out of love, fear and total respect and reverence to an all Holy God, who sent His son to die for all our past sins:

Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God.

And now are responsible for our actions and behavior, because God doesn't wink at deliberate rebellion to Him, he gives us all a way out:

1Co 10:13 No temptation has taken you but what is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted above what you are able, but with the temptation also will make a way to escape, so that you may be able to bear it.
1Co 10:14 Therefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.

Jesus didn't obey for you, or take your wrath on the cross or somehow transfer His righteousness to you, because you were told you were born a sinner, and unable to repent, and fall at His feet seeking His mercy!

Jon 3:9 Who knows? He may repent, and God may have pity and turn away from the glow of His anger, so that we do not perish.
Jon 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way. And God was compassionate over the evil that He had said to do to them, and He did not do it.

The message is clear, the message is simple, it’s not of our own righteousness, it’s just the right thing to do, because God commands it, the spirit will assist in all things, but the repentance must be through and complete, not to earn anything from God, but to come to self, to end rebellion towards God, and clear the heart to prepare it to receive salvation, thus a new creation, made pure through repentance and faith proven by deeds!

1Pe 1:21 those believing in God through Him, He who raised Him up from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope might be in God.
1Pe 1:22 Purifying your souls in the obedience of the truth through the Spirit to unfeigned love of the brothers, love one another fervently out of a pure heart,
1Pe 1:23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the living Word of God, and abiding forever.
1Pe 1:24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of men as the flower of the grass. The grass withers, and its flower falls out.

1Pe 1:25 but the Word of the Lord endures forever. And this is the Word preached as gospel to you.

Adding your own conceived notions and false teachings to the pure word of God has dire consequences, get back to the basic gospel according to godliness, handed down to the saints, start a new foundation, built on truth, not on sinking sand coming from all the many reformed and Calvinistic teachings that get mankind saved in their sins, you were born a sinner, you are the Romans wretch, or the big lie from the wolves, Jesus is your substitute and cover, just trust and receive Him and you are saved, but Jesus said this:

Luk 13:3 I tell you, No. But unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.

Remember, adding to the word is very dangerous, and the doctrines of Christ must be kept pure an undefiled!

2Jn 1:9 Everyone transgressing and not abiding in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son.

You can argue all you want about who will go to heaven, and God is NOT a respector of persons, repentance isnt some cheap confession on your death bed, saying you are sorry for your sins,God is patient and merciful, not wanting any to perish, but all to come to repentance! Which is the sin stops or the heart hardens! Many will not find repentance, they forsook the truth for a lie, like most churches have today, the mark has been given and freely received, that says you can be double minded, and still make into heaven, read the word, and seek His great mercy while you still have breath!
You can do all the good works in the world, but still be defiled in your heart, read the book of Revelation, the most giving and serving church, filled with good works, was defiled to the core, and Jesus rebuked them!

We are not born sinners, mankind has a free will choice to either obey God and live, or obey thier flesh and die!

Dont blame God for your so called sin nature, He made mankind upright and good, but they out of choice sought out many schmes! ECC 7-29.

since when did i blame god for anything and you didnt even answer my question you just copy and pasted did you even read what i was asking please dont copy and paste its annoying to scroll down all that way honestly if i could delete your post i would

 

[arwen7]

the first thing what people seem to say to non believers like me is why don't you believe well im going to ask you a question and more than likely the answer you give me from this question will be the reason why i dont believe

but before i ask i need to tell alittle back story ill keep it short

there was an animator on the web he started in early 2000 his early teens his animations were bad to begin with but the storys he came up with and the voice acting was good enough to over come that and he made a really good show it made people laugh and be happy through out the years he got better and more famous and as a person he was really funny likable and kind and would help others with there own animation production he became one of the best animators on the web but one day he got cancer and after a 6 year long battle he died thousands of fans moarned his death thinking why such a kind funny person who gave us joy and entertainment in our lives be taken away at such a young age. people made tribute videos art works everything to show there respect for him and gave him a good send of we will all miss him he was one of my inspirations to carry on through life and get better at my own work.

now this is my question this animator was not a christian he didnt belong to any religion, would this animator who has done nothing wrong in his life and has showed kindness and made peoples lives a little bit better all over the world be sent to hell

that is my question

Hi Wolfywolfs,

First, I want to say that I am sorry to hear that someone who had such a profound affect on you and others, died at such a young age. Ultimately, none of us know if where he had gone. Professing to be Christian doesn't make you saved, as I am sure you have encountered some hypocrites in your life. Some people attend church because their parents have always, and that is the thing to do, but do not have a personal relationship with Christ. I believe it goes the other way too, there are some people who don't attend church, but who show the love of God in their daily life. Only God knows what is truly in our hearts, we can not judge if a person will be in Heaven or not. That is unfair and cruel. There is no compassion in that. Only God knows your friend's last minute thoughts.

C.S Lewis once wrote that hell is just the absence of God. Just like darkness is the absence of light. And we can chose to move away from God or come closer. Perhaps, we chose our own hell by abandoning God. If God is the Father who always is there to welcome the prodigal son, then I must assume that He is always there waiting for us to come home. He WANTS us to chose Him, but He can not force us because He gave us free will, and not strings to be His puppets.

I'm not sure if this satisfies your question, but I hope it gives a bit of insight.

 

[wolfywolfs]

Hi Wolfywolfs,

First, I want to say that I am sorry to hear that someone who had such a profound affect on you and others, died at such a young age. Ultimately, none of us know if where he had gone. Professing to be Christian doesn't make you saved, as I am sure you have encountered some hypocrites in your life. Some people attend church because their parents have always, and that is the thing to do, but do not have a personal relationship with Christ. I believe it goes the other way too, there are some people who don't attend church, but who show the love of God in their daily life. Only God knows what is truly in our hearts, we can not judge if a person will be in Heaven or not. That is unfair and cruel. There is no compassion in that. Only God knows your friend's last minute thoughts.

C.S Lewis once wrote that hell is just the absence of God. Just like darkness is the absence of light. And we can chose to move away from God or come closer. Perhaps, we chose our own hell by abandoning God. If God is the Father who always is there to welcome the prodigal son, then I must assume that He is always there waiting for us to come home. He WANTS us to chose Him, but He can not force us because He gave us free will, and not strings to be His puppets.

I'm not sure if this satisfies your question, but I hope it gives a bit of insight.

out of all of those who have answered yours is the most sensible and realistic one and the way you answered show your character as a person

thank you

 

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so what your saying doesn't matter if your good or bad as long as you believe and ask for forgiveness before you die its fine

so by all accounts if Hitler accepted christian and said hes sorry for all hes done he was a with hatred filled with lies that others told him. he would go to heaven right. this is just an example im not saying hitler was a chrisitan or hes in heaven .

Absolutely true. As long as he was sincere. You know of Paul in the bible? I"m sure you've heard of him, wrote much of the NT. Before he was Paul, his name was Saul He was a member of the Pharisees, the powerful Jewish religious organization that was responsible for Christs death. Saul was an aggressive member of this group and after the Crucifixion of Christ he took it his personal duty to eradicate the entire Christian movement... by killing every Christian he met. That became his full time job, to travel with a group going around persecuting and murdering Christians in an attempt to wipe them off the face of the earth. Well, God had other ideas. God intervened, Saul's heart changed, and he chose to follow God. The change in him so drastic God renamed him Paul. So Paul went from mass murderer to one of the most respected Christians and biggest contributors to the bible.
Again, the key to this is sincerity. I can't speak for God in whom He does and does not accept as genuine acceptance of Him, but, i don't believe a person who has this knowledge, and chooses to spend his whole life living how he wants, then blurts a quick prayer at the last minute is truly saved. He may have said the words, but it wasn't truly in his heart.
So yes, a person can live their life doing great and wonderful things, but without God, it does nothing for their eternal soul, while a person who lives only to destroy can make it to heave with sincere repentance.

 

[Ariel82]

the first thing what people seem to say to non believers like me is why don't you believe well im going to ask you a question and more than likely the answer you give me from this question will be the reason why i dont believe

but before i ask i need to tell alittle back story ill keep it short

there was an animator on the web he started in early 2000 his early teens his animations were bad to begin with but the storys he came up with and the voice acting was good enough to over come that and he made a really good show it made people laugh and be happy through out the years he got better and more famous and as a person he was really funny likable and kind and would help others with there own animation production he became one of the best animators on the web but one day he got cancer and after a 6 year long battle he died thousands of fans moarned his death thinking why such a kind funny person who gave us joy and entertainment in our lives be taken away at such a young age. people made tribute videos art works everything to show there respect for him and gave him a good send of we will all miss him he was one of my inspirations to carry on through life and get better at my own work.

now this is my question this animator was not a christian he didnt belong to any religion, would this animator who has done nothing wrong in his life and has showed kindness and made peoples lives a little bit better all over the world be sent to hell

that is my question

i started reading to see if anyone already mentioned these scriptures...

my answer is I don't know but I pray for everyone to know God and I believe that God writes and unspoken code of morality in the hearts of all His creation. we call it our conscience, our moral compass can be distracted by the bright shiny metallic things around us. i can not tell you who will be in haven or hell.

however i can tell you what God wants us to do now, today: love Him with all our hearts and love one another as He lived and died for us: without expecting anything in return... not even Heaven...

that last bit will get a few gasps, but if you do good expecting to be paid by an easy time in Heaven then are you really doing it for the right reasons?

i believe we should allow God to judge because personally i know I'm a sinner deserving hell, but if God decides to pardon me then I will thank Him, not get all prideful and say, that's right you better you owe it to me....

God doesn't owe us anything, the world doesn't owe us anything.

your skin cells die every day, do you owe it to your skin cells to find ways to keep them alive longer? you know what that would cause? tumor and cancer..

we are but a speck when you examine the cosmos yet God loves us enough to have every hair in our heads numbered... do we love even our own bodies enough to know the numbers of hair on our head?


lol i'm rabblin' here is the scripture i wanted to post in the beginning...

we are not called to judge those outside the church but allow God to judge them....
1 Corinthians 5:12-13

New King James Version (NKJV)

12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? 13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”[a]