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PaigeyStorm

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#21
The question shouldn't be weather its OK to get gross body piercings and tattoos, but weather you have crucified your flesh with Christ through repentance and are walking in the spirit, because if you are, then your question would be irrelevant.

Its simple to answer your question, but many will not see to understand why a real follower of Christ, will be dead to the world and all its vain attractions, so the piercings and tattoos, are just the tip of the iceberg in the apostate worldly church today.

You can really gage where a persons heart is when you tell them these vain worldly practices and not of God, you can argue day and night how these things are Grey areas in the Bible, then make many excuses why you can be like the world and still be saved.

I urge you to get into the word, repent unto salvation as Jesus commands, crucify your flesh with all its passions and desires, flee from the lust of the flesh, the love of the world, and the pride of life, then your eyes will be open to why your question is a straw man excuse to be a lukewarm Christian.

The church is supposed to be an example of holiness, seperation and purity, a separated people zealous for good works, not copying the vanity and idolatry the world offers!

1Jn 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1Jn 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1Jn 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Co 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
2Co 6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Jas 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

2Co 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
Also, I would like to add that reffering to "piercings" you would also list normal earrings in that category, and I have seen 100s of woman and men leaders of churches which have huge success in making Gods word known who have earrings, so maybe you should think about things like that? And they most definitely aren't lukewarm Christians.
 
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libertygirl

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#22
Just a heads up, tattoos that are visible will prevent you from getting a job at most places. You can wear long sleeves, but that's no fun on hot days.
 
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GRA

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#23
I was wondering what your opinions were on tattoos and piercings. I have a tongue ring, 2 upper earrings and am getting my tattoo in 3 months time, I have had a lot of people tell me it's not a "Christian" thing to do, and clearly, by the decisions I have made, I disagree but would like to know why other people beg to differ? And if anyone has answers for me? Is it ok? Does it make me a "bad christian"?
Keep in mind that - you asked --- you asked for opinions and you asked for answers. And, we are giving them to you...

Are you seeking the truth - and a real and true answer?

Or, are you looking for someone to say something that will "sooth your conscience" and "cover over" the conviction that you are receiving from the Holy Spirit?

Maybe I should've explained myself, I'm getting a tattoo saying, VICTORY, on my wrist because I used to cut myself serverely and thought of it as quite appropriate as God has helped me overcome that part of my life and gave me victory in the war I was fighting when I was cutting myself, I am no longer a slave to that and so that tattoo would be a personal reminder of what God has bought me through. I've wanted this tattoo since I was 13 but obviously the word and meaning changed.
I would think that your cutting scars should be a sufficient reminder that you have achieved VICTORY.

What is "in your heart" should "serve the purpose" as a reminder at any time you looked upon your scars.

What is "in your heart" should be a sufficient "internal" reminder. You do not need an "external" one.

More importantly - you are much better off not doing anything that "keeps your focus" on the cutting -- you need to "move past it" completely - "leave it behind in the annals of history" - and focus on other - better - higher - things.

I believe that you would be very wise to avoid it altogether - as a milestone - and a proof - and a confidence -- that you have truly "moved forward, never to look back ever again"...

General Rule: Do not let it occupy your thoughts - lest Satan tempt you with it - THIS is a far greater accomplishment that will do you "the greater good" in the future.

Waiting probably would be a good idea, thanks guys. And no, it's not for others to see its for my own reminder and its not my "indetity" haha. And Trax I really don't think by getting a tattoo or having piercings it will help people into hell, being rude is not my intention but that is pathetic, I know a few church pastors in South Africa who have tattoos and I don't think someone who is bringing people to God would in any way be helping people get into hell. But, that is your belief so by all means, stick to it, I just beg to differ.
And to everyone else, thanks for the help I will definitely wait and pray about it
You say you don't think that getting a tattoo or having piercings will "help" people into hell... Are you so absolutely and entirely sure of that? Are you willing to "risk" the souls of others - not having a sufficient understanding of this issue in the "bigger picture"...?

But then again, for non-believers, thinking Christians have no fun and are boring (which my generation tend to think), wont it show them that being a Christian isn't like living in a box your whole life? I don't know, I just think , maybe my generation also needs to see Christianity doesn't limit you to everything and isn't all about rules
And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that now I'm going to get a tattoo to show people that, it's still for my own benefit, but it comes with that advantage, that's the way I see it
Do you want to live your life by what your generation thinks - or by what God thinks?

Wow, do I disagree, this really doesn't at all stop me from getting my "gross" tatoo. Thanks for being so damn disrespectful, God also says, "don't judge" maybe you didn't find the bible verse for that did you? People like this make me angry, express your opinion, that's what I asked for, but be respectful while doing so!
Also, I would like to add that reffering to "piercings" you would also list normal earrings in that category, and I have seen 100s of woman and men leaders of churches which have huge success in making Gods word known who have earrings, so maybe you should think about things like that? And they most definitely aren't lukewarm Christians.
I do not believe that Tommy4Christ is being disrespectful; rather, I see it that he is trying to open your eyes to the truth -- that 'tattoos' and 'piercings' are "devices" of Satan.

Please do not under-estimate just how really deceptive and powerful Satan can actually be. Seek out God with all your heart and soul. Read His Word until you find your answer - directly from God Himself. But, if you seek an answer that will "sooth your conscience" and "cover over" the conviction that you are receiving from the Holy Spirit -- then - "you deceive yourself, and the truth is not in you"...

If you seriously want the "right" answer - and you seek out God for that answer - He will give it to you; however, you must be willing to accept the answer He gives you in faith and obey it.

If anyone is being disrespectful - it is you - considering your choice of language towards Tommy4Christ - which shows your tainted attitude - which is influenced by Satan. (And, you need to learn to see it for what it really is.)

The way I see it - Tommy4Christ IS being respectful - to GOD first - for the truth that GOD makes known to those who are willing to listen - and is willing to speak the truth - in the hope that you will also listen - to what the LORD GOD is trying to tell you - if you would only "swallow your pride" and really listen...

In my lifetime, I have seen the world slide so far down the "slippery slope" of Satan's masterfully deceptive influence...

When I was growing up, anything more than [just] one piercing of each ear lobe (in the center of the lobe) -- was virtually unthinkable!

I "allow for it" because it is what I am used to - it is what I grew up with. However, that in of itself by no means makes it right...

I personally do not believe in piercing [anything] - ideally, not even ear lobes. To me, that is the essential equivalent of telling God that He did not do a good enough job in the design of our bodies.

I believe that God "allows" for it (because of our lack of understanding) out of His wonderful Love and Compassion - but, that - it really is not "pleasing" to Him. In fact, any and all [unnecessary cosmetic] "modifications" that we do to our bodies -- I do not believe that God is "pleased with" - but, rather - is actually "very unpleased with"...

It is SATAN that wants us to "modify" and "mutilate" our bodies - not GOD.

It is exceedingly rare for someone your age - "in this current day" - to understand "the big picture" well enough to make a good decision on something like this -- without very thoroughly researching it (biblically) and considering it at length...

I suggest that you first "loose the pride" (become humble before God) and then "take this good advice" (consider it without despising it)...

I will pray for you.

:)

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GRA

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#24
Just a heads up, tattoos that are visible will prevent you from getting a job at most places. You can wear long sleeves, but that's no fun on hot days.
And, there are other "practical" things to consider also...

:)

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Missa79

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#25
Paigeystorm...I was blessed by having a family thay raised me in church...when i was 19, i got married and turned away from God..during that time I got 2a tattoos and got 5 holes in each ear and pierced my belly button...Almost two yrs ago o found my way back to God and I still want another tattoo..a criss on ny wrist that says No Greater Love...in no way do i think a tattoo will send us to hell..God and only God knows your heart..your tattoo will be part of your personal testimony and a constant reminder of where God brought you from and what he has done for you..You can still be a witness to your friends and let your light shine with a tattoo its not like you are getting something gross gorry or inappropriate.....Just be sure you get a tattoo that you are ok having for the rest of your life...God Bless you little sis...continue to let your light shine and share with everyone what Jesus has done for you..they will see how happy you are and how much peace you have and they will want it too...:)
 
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GRA

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#26
You say you don't think that getting a tattoo or having piercings will "help" people into hell... Are you so absolutely and entirely sure of that? Are you willing to "risk" the souls of others - not having a sufficient understanding of this issue in the "bigger picture"...?
I am in no way suggesting that getting a tattoo or a piercing will [absolutely, forcibly - "in of itself"] send anyone to hell...

I am suggesting that - "in the big picture" - getting a tattoo or a piercing will "work towards" the influencing of the majority of [the global population] in such a way that will "encourage" them to take the "broad way" instead of the "narrow way" --- it is nothing but a "guise" that is a work of Satan...

:)

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PaigeyStorm

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#27
Keep in mind that - you asked --- you asked for opinions and you asked for answers. And, we are giving them to you...

Are you seeking the truth - and a real and true answer?

Or, are you looking for someone to say something that will "sooth your conscience" and "cover over" the conviction that you are receiving from the Holy Spirit?


I would think that your cutting scars should be a sufficient reminder that you have achieved VICTORY.

What is "in your heart" should "serve the purpose" as a reminder at any time you looked upon your scars.

What is "in your heart" should be a sufficient "internal" reminder. You do not need an "external" one.

More importantly - you are much better off not doing anything that "keeps your focus" on the cutting -- you need to "move past it" completely - "leave it behind in the annals of history" - and focus on other - better - higher - things.

I believe that you would be very wise to avoid it altogether - as a milestone - and a proof - and a confidence -- that you have truly "moved forward, never to look back ever again"...

General Rule: Do not let it occupy your thoughts - lest Satan tempt you with it - THIS is a far greater accomplishment that will do you "the greater good" in the future.


You say you don't think that getting a tattoo or having piercings will "help" people into hell... Are you so absolutely and entirely sure of that? Are you willing to "risk" the souls of others - not having a sufficient understanding of this issue in the "bigger picture"...?


Do you want to live your life by what your generation thinks - or by what God thinks?



I do not believe that Tommy4Christ is being disrespectful; rather, I see it that he is trying to open your eyes to the truth -- that 'tattoos' and 'piercings' are "devices" of Satan.

Please do not under-estimate just how really deceptive and powerful Satan can actually be. Seek out God with all your heart and soul. Read His Word until you find your answer - directly from God Himself. But, if you seek an answer that will "sooth your conscience" and "cover over" the conviction that you are receiving from the Holy Spirit -- then - "you deceive yourself, and the truth is not in you"...

If you seriously want the "right" answer - and you seek out God for that answer - He will give it to you; however, you must be willing to accept the answer He gives you in faith and obey it.

If anyone is being disrespectful - it is you - considering your choice of language towards Tommy4Christ - which shows your tainted attitude - which is influenced by Satan. (And, you need to learn to see it for what it really is.)

The way I see it - Tommy4Christ IS being respectful - to GOD first - for the truth that GOD makes known to those who are willing to listen - and is willing to speak the truth - in the hope that you will also listen - to what the LORD GOD is trying to tell you - if you would only "swallow your pride" and really listen...

In my lifetime, I have seen the world slide so far down the "slippery slope" of Satan's masterfully deceptive influence...

When I was growing up, anything more than [just] one piercing of each ear lobe (in the center of the lobe) -- was virtually unthinkable!

I "allow for it" because it is what I am used to - it is what I grew up with. However, that in of itself by no means makes it right...

I personally do not believe in piercing [anything] - ideally, not even ear lobes. To me, that is the essential equivalent of telling God that He did not do a good enough job in the design of our bodies.

I believe that God "allows" for it (because of our lack of understanding) out of His wonderful Love and Compassion - but, that - it really is not "pleasing" to Him. In fact, any and all [unnecessary cosmetic] "modifications" that we do to our bodies -- I do not believe that God is "pleased with" - but, rather - is actually "very unpleased with"...

It is SATAN that wants us to "modify" and "mutilate" our bodies - not GOD.

It is exceedingly rare for someone your age - "in this current day" - to understand "the big picture" well enough to make a good decision on something like this -- without very thoroughly researching it (biblically) and considering it at length...

I suggest that you first "loose the pride" (become humble before God) and then "take this good advice" (consider it without despising it)...

I will pray for you.

:)

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Geez, "lose the pride" now I can understand why you don't think that other guy was being rude. You both are making me our to be a "lukewarm christian" whom is "full of pride" then maybe I shouldn't be a Christian? So thanks for that, I will definitely be considering losing sight of God after this, seeing as though you both mad me sound as if I'm not good enough and God isn't pleased with me, I don't think you responding to this would do any good, as I am leaving this website.
 
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GRA

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#28
Geez, "lose the pride" now I can understand why you don't think that other guy was being rude. You both are making me our to be a "lukewarm christian" whom is "full of pride" then maybe I shouldn't be a Christian? So thanks for that, I will definitely be considering losing sight of God after this, seeing as though you both mad me sound as if I'm not good enough and God isn't pleased with me, I don't think you responding to this would do any good, as I am leaving this website.
That fact that you made the above statements (in red) tells me that you are most definitely allowing Satan to influence your thinking...

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Ugly

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#29
Wow, guys. You talk down to her almost to the point of questioning her salvation, meanwhile i'm impressed with this young lady and her attitude. This young lady first had the wisdom to question her decision and come to others to seek counsel about what to do. If you read the thread, you will see that she actually did heed the counsel of those who spoke to her without condemning her, and made the choice to hold off on getting the tattoo.
I, for one, am impressed she not only sought out what others thought, but she put her desires aside to listen to the wisdom of others. Especially for a 15 year old, who are often quick to assume they know better than everyone else and are not prone to seeking advice, let alone following it.
True, she did respond wrong at one point, but we're not all perfect, especially at such a young age. But step back and look at your own behavior. You gave her no credit for seeking help and trying to make a wise decision, yet you're quick to point out when she makes a mistake. No wonder she feels so attacked and condemned.
I'm disappointed in the 'adults' that adopted this attitude against a kid trying to do the right thing.
 
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Ugly

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#30
Geez, "lose the pride" now I can understand why you don't think that other guy was being rude. You both are making me our to be a "lukewarm christian" whom is "full of pride" then maybe I shouldn't be a Christian? So thanks for that, I will definitely be considering losing sight of God after this, seeing as though you both mad me sound as if I'm not good enough and God isn't pleased with me, I don't think you responding to this would do any good, as I am leaving this website.

I hope you don't leave. Don't let a few rotten apples ruin the bunch. :)
 
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I was wondering what your opinions were on tattoos and piercings. I have a tongue ring, 2 upper earrings and am getting my tattoo in 3 months time, I have had a lot of people tell me it's not a "Christian" thing to do, and clearly, by the decisions I have made, I disagree but would like to know why other people beg to differ? And if anyone has answers for me? Is it ok? Does it make me a "bad christian"?

Luke 17:1-2
1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! 2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
Romans 14:21 21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
1 Corinthians 8:13 13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.
1 Corinthians 10:32 32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
2 Corinthians 6:3
3 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:

It seems that the issue is not about how you feel about it, but how others feel. If Christians and/or sinners have told you it's not a "Christian" thing to do, does it matter what they think? It should, because such offenses destroy your witness, and may damage your future ministry as a result.
You do not know your future, such as where you will live, maybe not even yet know your called ministry. I would do nothing that would take a risk of messing that up. Some say it's right, and some say it's wrong. One thing is for sure: if you don't do it, you won't offend anyone. Isn't that what's important?

 
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PaigeyStorm

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#32
Luke 17:1-2 1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! 2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
Romans 14:21 21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
1 Corinthians 8:13 13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.
1 Corinthians 10:32 32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
2 Corinthians 6:3 3 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:

It seems that the issue is not about how you feel about it, but how others feel. If Christians and/or sinners have told you it's not a "Christian" thing to do, does it matter what they think? It should, because such offenses destroy your witness, and may damage your future ministry as a result.
You do not know your future, such as where you will live, maybe not even yet know your called ministry. I would do nothing that would take a risk of messing that up. Some say it's right, and some say it's wrong. One thing is for sure: if you don't do it, you won't offend anyone. Isn't that what's important?
well no, id say that isnt what matters most:) as God is first im my life and not what other people think of me, its what God thinks of me, and by the looks of things, nothing can seperate me from Gods love, unless i stand corrected?
or maybe i misunderstood what you were saying? haha i dont know. im just tired of saying something and people taking it the wrong way on this website.. (not that you in anyway are doing so, i respect your opinion)
 
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Jordache

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#33
I am artistic and I see tattoos as artistic expression. I agree with keniseyes that the law against it is OT and we are not held to it any longer. However, consider a few things. 1. Your witness. Certain people will judge you and unfortunately, it could make life harder. It really depends on where you live. I live in LA so it's almost expected. But in some places even a small tattoo will be looked down upon. Are you ready to deal with that? Are you ready to possibly have to struggle with your witness as a result of others judging you.
2. Tattoos do not stay the same. They will grown and shrink with you, and the result may be very different than what you expect. Also, any accidental mark will mar your tattoo. For instance, your appendix scar may not fit on your butterfly so well. Or if you plan on having babies and get a tat on your belly, the tat will grow too.
3. What's that purpose? My brother isn't a Christian so there's no really reason for him to question his tattoos. His first was a skeleton moon with cross bones. He just thought it was cool. Then he went on to get several more including his last name across his back. This may just be my opinion, but I you want something just because its pretty, I'd say you'll probably regret it when your 50. Taste changes. Find a painting instead. However, I myself have considered tattoos what have symbolic meaning. I thought about something in memory of my two boys. When I'm 50 they will still be my babies and therefore my tattoo is less likely to be an issue. I've also thought of a life verse tattoo, or a small symbolic image. Some people get a butterfly to symbolize life. If its a good image, it will probably last symbolically until you die.
I believe we were created in God's image, and part of that is we are creative like he is. I believe tattooing and piercing is a creative expression just like other art. Don't get me wrong. I do think we have to be careful. But I also believe its art.
 
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GRA

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#34
Wow, guys. You talk down to her almost to the point of questioning her salvation, meanwhile i'm impressed with this young lady and her attitude.
I am not "talking down to her"...

I am not questioning her love for God, her walk with God, or any other such thing.

What I am trying to do is give her warning that Satan is "doing his best" to influence her - and that - by being more aware of it - she should be able to better guard against it.

What there is, other than this, is explained below.


This young lady first had the wisdom to question her decision and come to others to seek counsel about what to do. If you read the thread, you will see that she actually did heed the counsel of those who spoke to her without condemning her, and made the choice to hold off on getting the tattoo.
Yes, she did. And, I commend her for it.

I was part of that council - kindly and gently reminding her that it was sufficient for her to "remain as she is" without physical "modification" or "alteration"...

I did read the thread. I was happy that she decided to wait and consider it further. But then... (the continuation of this is explained below)

I do not see it that anyone is condemning her. (Of course, Satan would like for her to believe that...)

I, for one, am impressed she not only sought out what others thought, but she put her desires aside to listen to the wisdom of others. Especially for a 15 year old, who are often quick to assume they know better than everyone else and are not prone to seeking advice, let alone following it.
Did she really put her desires aside with intent to really listen to the wisdom of others? Did she - most of all - seek wisdom from the Bible verses posted in this thread?

I don't see it that she is being anything other than "a 15 year old" -- spiritual maturity, on her part, would include "graciously accepting the advice" and actually considering it - without anger or "striking back"...

GRA said:
I suggest that you first "loose the pride" (become humble before God) and then "take this good advice" (consider it without despising it)...
I did not say "become humble before GRA"... ("God forbid...") :rolleyes:

True, she did respond wrong at one point, but we're not all perfect, especially at such a young age.
I generally agree; however, the following is also true:

If her heart and conscience were "clear" (with God) - without the influence of Satan - she would have very likely simply thanked everyone for their advice, saying that she would consider it. Her "striking out" at Tommy4Christ the way she did told me immediately that she was allowing Satan to influence her by "listening to him whispering lies into her ear":


"Don't listen to that!"
("I don't want you to learn the truth about me and my deceptive works.")

"How dare that person tell you something that could offend you!"

("I have to make sure that you are angry enough so as to be sure that you will ignore any conviction by the Holy Spirit that you may receive as a result of hearing something He can use to convince you of the truth in this matter.")

"The only good advice is 'feel good' advice."

("I wouldn't want you to think that advice that 'pricks your heart' could possibly be the best advice of all.")

But step back and look at your own behavior. You gave her no credit for seeking help and trying to make a wise decision, yet you're quick to point out when she makes a mistake. No wonder she feels so attacked and condemned.
I know for certain that "I thought it" (regarding "giving her credit for seeking help") - but I regret it did not make it into my post(s).

PaigeyStorm:

It has not been my intent to make you feel 'attacked' nor 'condemned'. I am not even trying to "focus" on your "mistake" - except to try to show you that Satan is behind it.

The main intent of [posts #23 and #28] was to point out that this more-mature-than-you Christian can clearly see that you are allowing Satan to influence you - and that you should seek out God and read His Word to discover the true answer you seek.

It is with Christian Love that I am trying to WARN you...

I am not "condemning" you or any other such similar thing.

Yes - "in a way" - "in part" - I was "rebuking" you (in one particular part of post #23) for "having - and showing - an un-Christian-like attitude"... However, I would like to assure you that I did it in Christian Love - and not any other reason, by any means.

Please:

~ Be "swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath"... (James 1:19)
~ Show forth your spiritual maturity by accepting 'gracefully' and 'graciously' the "opinions" / "advice" / "wisdom" from others - that you asked for - "weigh it out" against the Word of God - and, "go from there"...

("Which is what you should do any any case...")

Understand that the word 'accepting' in the context of this statement does not necessarily mean 'following' - it means "take it for consideration"...

~ Let God have the Glory

I'm disappointed in the 'adults' that adopted this attitude against a kid trying to do the right thing.
"In an attempt to minimize the unnecessary 'flare-ups' -- I am not even going to respond to this..."

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GRA

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Luke 17:1-2
1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! 2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
Romans 14:21 21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
1 Corinthians 8:13 13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.
1 Corinthians 10:32 32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
2 Corinthians 6:3
3 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:

It seems that the issue is not about how you feel about it, but how others feel. If Christians and/or sinners have told you it's not a "Christian" thing to do, does it matter what they think? It should, because such offenses destroy your witness, and may damage your future ministry as a result.
You do not know your future, such as where you will live, maybe not even yet know your called ministry. I would do nothing that would take a risk of messing that up. Some say it's right, and some say it's wrong. One thing is for sure: if you don't do it, you won't offend anyone. Isn't that what's important?

THIS is good advice!

"What is discussed here is, in fact, a part of the 'bigger picture' that I referred to..."

:)

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jb

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I was wondering what your opinions were on tattoos and piercings. I have a tongue ring, 2 upper earrings and am getting my tattoo in 3 months time, I have had a lot of people tell me it's not a "Christian" thing to do, and clearly, by the decisions I have made, I disagree but would like to know why other people beg to differ? And if anyone has answers for me? Is it ok? Does it make me a "bad christian"?
I certainly have no problem with 'discret' tattoos, however, I think that ones that are glaringly obvious, like over a good part of the arm, really become out of place and ugly...

As regards piercings, the same really applies, I have no problems with ones that are 'discrete'...

I don't have either of the above, but I do enjoy looking at them on other people when they have been done well and look good...I actually think they are a 'form' of art.

Yahweh Shalom...
 
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Did she really put her desires aside with intent to really listen to the wisdom of others? Did she - most of all - seek wisdom from the Bible verses posted in this thread?

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Actually, yes she did. The only people she lashed out at were the two people who made her feel most criticized and condemned by their exaggerated, overblown, hyperspiritualized messages nearly accusing her of dragging people to hell if she gets a tattoo, or making her feel substandard in her walk for even considering it. Those people who gave simple, concise and reasonable responses that made her think about her decision, she did realize it was wise to put aside her desires.
 
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Actually, yes she did. The only people she lashed out at were the two people who made her feel most criticized and condemned by their exaggerated, overblown, hyperspiritualized messages nearly accusing her of dragging people to hell if she gets a tattoo, or making her feel substandard in her walk for even considering it. Those people who gave simple, concise and reasonable responses that made her think about her decision, she did realize it was wise to put aside her desires.
"We shall see..."

"In an attempt to minimize the unnecessary 'flare-ups' -- I am not even going to respond to this..."
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As for a tattoo somewhere else on your body, it might seem cool now, but in ten years from now it probably won’t. You’ll probably be ashamed of it.
Agreed. Either ashamed or just out right tired of seeing it.
And if you get a tattoo and later find yourself in this situation, just remember, convincing yourself that you still like it to avoid feeling sorry is far worse than it was to get it in the first place.
 
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I was wondering what your opinions were on tattoos and piercings. I have a tongue ring, 2 upper earrings and am getting my tattoo in 3 months time, I have had a lot of people tell me it's not a "Christian" thing to do, and clearly, by the decisions I have made, I disagree but would like to know why other people beg to differ? And if anyone has answers for me? Is it ok? Does it make me a "bad christian"?

I think that if you got those things before you were reborn in the

spirit,then to me that would just be


something that wordly people do in ignorance,because they think

church people are foolish.I also think


that if you are reborn,you would be forgiven if you went and got the

tattoos and such,but being


reborn,i don't think you would want to anymore---if you were trying

to renew your mind.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.