Job 38:7

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Job 38:7 KJV - When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Can anyone tell me who these characters are?
 
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Job 38:7 KJV - When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Can anyone tell me who these characters are?

Sure...... This was US!

Jeremiah 1:4-5

4*Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

5*Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
 
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JLHillsSr

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Sure...... This was US!

Jeremiah 1:4-5

4*Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

5*Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
We were with God from the beginning? The sons of God, I believe are the angels. And if this is true, then, all of them are there, even Lucifer and the third that fell. So who are the morning stars?
 

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the whole litany of questions (were you there'?) by God in that passage were purposefully unanswerable...Job was not there and neither were we.
 
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Ariel82

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do you really think anyone can answer that question without falling into this category:

"“Who is this who darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?"
 
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JLHillsSr

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do you really think anyone can answer that question without falling into this category:

"“Who is this who darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?"
Rev 2:24 KJV - But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
Rev 2:25 KJV - But that which ye have [already] hold fast till I come.
Rev 2:26 KJV - And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Rev 2:27 KJV - And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
Rev 2:28 KJV - And I will give him the morning star.
Rev 2:29 KJV - He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.


Rev 22:16 KJV - I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.
 
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Job 38:7 KJV - When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Can anyone tell me who these characters are?
the morning stars are a type of angel...they are singers...

satan was once one of the morning star angels...

jesus now holds an 'honorary rank' among the morning star angels...he may be their commander too...
 
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JLHillsSr

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the morning stars are a type of angel...they are singers...

satan was once one of the morning star angels...

jesus now holds an 'honorary rank' among the morning star angels...he may be their commander too...
Job 1:6 KJV - Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

Job 2:1 KJV - Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.

The morning stars are not angels. Satan, aka Lucifer is numbered with them, and separate from the morning stars.
 
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Rev 2:24 KJV - But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
Rev 2:25 KJV - But that which ye have [already] hold fast till I come.
Rev 2:26 KJV - And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Rev 2:27 KJV - And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
Rev 2:28 KJV - And I will give him the morning star.
Rev 2:29 KJV - He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.


Rev 22:16 KJV - I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.
2 Peter 1:19
And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts;


Jesus is the morning star given through the Holy Spirit. However how that ties into the verse in Job is questionable unless the plural use of the word should be "morning star" not "stars" and "son of God" not "sons"

kind of like this verse:

Galatians 3:16
Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ.


yet so many think it still the "seeds" and not just the SEED that the promises were made.

interesting...
 
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JLHillsSr

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2 Peter 1:19
And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts;


Jesus is the morning star given through the Holy Spirit. However how that ties into the verse in Job is questionable unless the plural use of the word should be "morning star" not "stars" and "son of God" not "sons"

kind of like this verse:

Galatians 3:16
Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ.


yet so many think it still the "seeds" and not just the SEED that the promises were made.

interesting...
The morning stars are the Holy Spirit, and Jehovah.

As for the seed of Abraham:

Gal 3:16 KJV - Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Gal 3:19 KJV - Wherefore then [serveth] the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; [and it was] ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Gal 3:29 KJV - And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Mary's child was the seed mentioned. Singular.
 
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JLHillsSr

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the whole litany of questions (were you there'?) by God in that passage were purposefully unanswerable...Job was not there and neither were we.
Pro 25:2 KJV - [It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.
 

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Pro 25:2 KJV - [It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.
True, but there are some things God has chosen not to reveal and to make assertions not founded on Scripture is risky business.
 

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2 Peter 1:19
And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts;


Jesus is the morning star given through the Holy Spirit. However how that ties into the verse in Job is questionable unless the plural use of the word should be "morning star" not "stars" and "son of God" not "sons"

kind of like this verse:

Galatians 3:16
Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ.


yet so many think it still the "seeds" and not just the SEED that the promises were made.

interesting...
Just a note in the OT the promise is repeated a number of times and sometimes in the Hebrew it is in the plural (seeds) but you are right in reference to Gal 3:16 it is singular.
 
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We were with God from the beginning? The sons of God, I believe are the angels. And if this is true, then, all of them are there, even Lucifer and the third that fell. So who are the morning stars?
How most see Lucifer is incorrect. He was only a man. We all were created I Christ (the Word) before the world began. We are the morning stars who sang.
 

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Sure...... This was US!

Jeremiah 1:4-5

4*Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

5*Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
oh....the prexistence thing.
Shepherd's Chapel?
or Mormonism?
 

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How most see Lucifer is incorrect. He was only a man. We all were created I Christ (the Word) before the world began. We are the morning stars who sang.
Pre-existence, beforelife, or pre-mortal existence refers to the belief that each individual human soul existed before conception, and at some point before birth enters or is placed by God into the body. Pre-existence encompasses both the belief that the soul was created by God at some time prior to conception and the belief that the soul is co-eternal with God, not created by him.

Ancient Greek thought and Islam affirm pre-existence, but it is generally denied in Judaism and Christianity.

Pre-existence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click

"We all were created I Christ (the Word) before the world began"

^ just on and on and on ^
 
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Pre-existence, beforelife, or pre-mortal existence refers to the belief that each individual human soul existed before conception, and at some point before birth enters or is placed by God into the body. Pre-existence encompasses both the belief that the soul was created by God at some time prior to conception and the belief that the soul is co-eternal with God, not created by him.

Ancient Greek thought and Islam affirm pre-existence, but it is generally denied in Judaism and Christianity.

Pre-existence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click

"We all were created I Christ (the Word) before the world began"

^ just on and on and on ^

Ephesians 1:3-5

3*Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4*According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5*Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,


In order to be chosen, you first have to be KNOWN! And we were before the foundation of the world.
 
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cfultz3

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How most see Lucifer is incorrect. He was only a man. We all were created I Christ (the Word) before the world began. We are the morning stars who sang.
Wow!!! You are way out in left field...amazing!!!!!

What was it before.....Jesus preached to the wicked dead and now Lucifer was a man and we were a morning star pre-birth......

I am guessing not enough of sleep?