Jesus Christ was God manifest in the Flesh

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Jesus is God there are no seperation between God and Jesus and the Holy Ghost they r all the same the Bible says that God raised Jesus from the dead but Jesus said destroy this temple and I will raise it in 3 days he himself will raise it thats one example of how God is Jesus there's so many more I can give but ill just say that for now n post more soon but yeah Jesus is God
 
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I think this part of scripture helps.
Matthew 3

17 : And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

God is the Father, Jesus our Saviour is the son of God, and the Holy Spirit is our guide/comfort from God.
 
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When the verse says u r my Son with whom im well pleased that was right after Jesus was baptized its a example of what God says to us when we to r baptized.also im a son right now because I have a dad when I have a kid ill be a father and I have a spirit inside of me and so does God because we r in the image of God there is God the Father who came in the Flesh as His Son to save us and God two also has a Spirit there's 3 but there not separate they are all in one the words Father and Son are not names they r titles just because im a father because im a dad and a son because I have father it doesn't make me two different people im still one just like God but God the Father came in the Flesh as His Son because the Bible says we can't see God and live we can't see Him in Spirit form because we would die so he came in the Flesh as his Son so he could save us he used it as a cover so to speak so he could save is because he couldn't come in his Spirit form because we would all die as the Scripture says so thats why the Scriptures say The Father is in me a.d im in the Father a.f also thats why when Jesus was talking to Philip and Philip said show us the Father and will sattisfy us Jesus said have I been so long time with u and yet u still don't know me Philip he that has seen me has seen the Father because God the Father came in The Flesh of his Son thats why when Philip asked Jesus show us the Father Jesus didn't say he is in heaven making it seem like He and His Father are two different from each other he said have I been so long time with u and u still don't know me indicating He a.d the Father r the same Jesus is God God bless u
 
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PneumaPsucheSoma said:
Because of Trinity doctrine, which insists it wasn't God in the flesh, but a PART of God in the flesh... just one of three God-persons, all individually distinct as eternally pre-existent "persons". Trinity doesn't say God was manifest in the flesh; it says the Son was manifest in the flesh.

This is why I was lost as a Trinitarian. Now I know in whom I have believed.

A half-truth leaves people searching for the rest wherever they can find it, so blame orthodox doctrine for not knowing and establishing the truth. Trinity has undermined the Christian faith in a way Trinis can't and won't see. I've been on both sides of the fence, and I see the truth. Trinis are blinded by indoctrination and a misplaced reverence.

Unless someone knows the truth of Rhema-Logos as the Word, they will hold onto their doctrines of men.

God's Soul/The Father was well pleased in the Son. The Spirit proceedeth from the Father. Jesus was the fullness of the Godhead bodily; the express image of God's substance.

God is Spirit-Soul-Body of One Divinity. (Theos is Pneuma-Psuche-Soma of Heis Theotes.)

God is NOT three "persons".
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You are right, God is not three persons but He is omnipresent, in heaven, in our hearts and on earth.
 
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PS said:
You are right, God is not three persons but He is omnipresent, in heaven, in our hearts and on earth.
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PS...just wondering.
why are you resurrecting old threads?
most ppl are no longer here.
whatever...but why not just start new ones?
 
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Of course the doctrine of the Trinity goes hand-in-hand with the doctrine of the Deity of Christ, and the Incarnation of Christ. Since Christ is a person and Christ is God, His Father must be a person, and His Spirit must be a person. Thus, three persons in one God. There is no better word for Father, Son, and Holy Spirit than persons. People get emotional and reject this because the word persons is not in the text of Scripture. Then they get hypocritical and say they are not following sola Scriptura, and invent false categories, saying they are semi- Sola Scriptura. Whatever that is! No, the concept of persons in God is all through the Scriptures. It is in Genesis 1:26. God talks, has a conversation with Himself, calling Himself US and OUR. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington
PS Yes we must have the body and blood of Christ to have life in us; that's the all holy eucharist of the Church. Christ's blood saves us from all sin(s).
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I believe the creator can create life in a human being, don't you think the creator can do this?
 
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zone said:
PS...just wondering.
why are you resurrecting old threads?
most ppl are no longer here.
whatever...but why not just start new ones?
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Are you a mod?
 
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"so blame orthodox doctrine for not knowing and establishing the truth."

What r u talking about man?What u have against Orthodox Church?U r some new Arie or Nestorie?Some new teaching u climing here?
 
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I'm having a hard time believing that so many people believe that God was role-playing. Read the simplicity of the scriptures to a child and they will get it right. Read it to an intellectual, and they will screw it up almost every time. Then the intellectual convinces the simple and/or ignorant to see it their way.
It is more than obvious that there are three, for we are made like God.
 
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Geometar said:
"so blame orthodox doctrine for not knowing and establishing the truth."

What r u talking about man?What u have against Orthodox Church?U r some new Arie or Nestorie?Some new teaching u climing here?
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I was talking about the Virgin Birth and God's presence on earth, but it doesn't matter, apparently this is an old thread and I'm going to bed.
 
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know1 said:
I'm having a hard time believing that so many people believe that God was role-playing. Read the simplicity of the scriptures to a child and they will get it right. Read it to an intellectual, and they will screw it up almost every time. Then the intellectual convinces the simple and/or ignorant to see it their way.
It is more than obvious that there are three, for we are made like God.
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The word 'persona' comes from the theatre where one actor plays several rolls, but this is an explanation of where the word comes from. The tadpole is not roll-playing when it becomes a frog or the caterpillar when it becomes a butterfly, neither was Jesus roll-playing at the transfiguration.

Transfiguration means "A marked change in form or appearance; a metamorphosis." It happens in nature which is God's creation and yet people deny God who is the creator of all things can't do the same as a tadpole or a caterpillar.

What sort of a tiny insignificant god do people have if they deny his ability to work miracles because it seems their god is not the Almighty God who I worship for whom such a thing is simplicity itself.
 
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PS said:
I was talking about the Virgin Birth and God's presence on earth, but it doesn't matter, apparently this is an old thread and I'm going to bed.
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What is so wrong in Orthodox perspective and perspective of Early Church?
 
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Geometar said:
What is so wrong in Orthodox perspective and perspective of Early Church?
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To be honest I don't know what their perspective is, sorry. Comparitive religion doesn't really interest me. :)
 
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To be honest I don't know what their perspective is, sorry. Comparitive religion doesn't really interest me. :)
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Sorry, no offense,but why then u said that Orthodox have to be blamed about those things?
 
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Geometar said:
Sorry, no offense,but why then u said that Orthodox have to be blamed about those things?
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I didn't know I had said that? Anyway obviously I offended you for which I apologise. I'm very sorry.

If I said orthodox I will have meant general Protestant church doctrine, perhaps I was talking about Calvin?
 
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PS said:
I didn't know I had said that? Anyway obviously I offended you for which I apologise. I'm very sorry.

If I said orthodox I will have meant general Protestant church doctrine, perhaps I was talking about Calvin?
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I see now.U know,i am Orthodox Christian,Eastern Orthodox,so i mean u talk about Orthodox Church.

Sorry.
 
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Geometar said:
I see now.U know,i am Orthodox Christian,Eastern Orthodox,so i mean u talk about Orthodox Church.

Sorry.
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Anyway you look after yourself and may God bless. :)
 
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1Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

How can so many that say they believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of sins, but do not believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh? There are those right here on this site that believe so. How can any person believe in the Son of God yet not believe that the Son was God in the flesh? It is contrary to the truth of scripture and to the Holy Spirit to believe that Jesus Christ was not God in the flesh (1Tim 3:16)?

When we worship and magnify Christ we are worshipping God in spirit and truth. When we love God, we love the Father and the Son because they are one and our love is according to the truth. The Son of God is equal to the Father but the Jews did not want to believe so. Many were offended, even some of the disciples, when Christ stated that they must eat His flesh and drink His blood or they would have no life in them (Jn 6:54-71).

Did not God come from heaven as the bread of life? When Christ claimed to be the Son of God they considered that to be blasphemy because He made Himself equal with God . Are we going to be led astray and believe that Jesus Christ through the incarnation, when God to on human form through the flesh, was not God in the flesh but only the Son of God who was inferior and not equal with God? Is this where we are being lead by the spirit of antichrist in these last days?
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The scripture itself is subjective.

If I was doing great deeds and healing people, and speaking joyfully of God, and beinging people good fortune, it could be said that God was somewhat manifest in me. God is 'working through me'.

God was made manifest through Jesus.

this would be the most accurate translation, seeing as Jesus says 'why do you call me good? Only one is good'.

He makes distinction between himself and God.
 
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