CAUCASIANS, I AM HERE TO EITHER LET YOU SWIM OR SINK. BUT THE CHOICE IS YOURS

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Elizabeth619

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I looked up some info on the black israelite cult last night. They apparently stand on street corners yelling at everyone. They even demean other blacks if they are not members of the cult.

The cult actually began years ago with a guy known as Ben Carter from Chicago. He even moved to Israel with the intent of "taking his country back". The Israeli government won't even allow them to become citizens.
 

loveme1

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I was sinking, drowning and He came and Saved me.

There was no :
[h=2]CAUCASIANS, I AM HERE TO EITHER LET YOU SWIM OR SINK. BUT THE CHOICE IS YOURS[/h]
No it was a Loving feeling that i pray will last forever..
 

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Acts 10
Peter’s Vision

9The next day, as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the housetop about the sixth hourb to pray. 10And he became hungry and wanted something to eat, but while they were preparing it, he fell into a trance 11and saw the heavens opened and something like a great sheet descending, being let down by its four corners upon the earth. 12In it were all kinds of animals and reptiles and birds of the air. 13And there came a voice to him: “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.” 14But Peter said, “By no means, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean.” 15And the voice came to him again a second time, “What God has made clean, do not call common.” 16This happened three times, and the thing was taken up at once to heaven.

17Now while Peter was inwardly perplexed as to what the vision that he had seen might mean, behold, the men who were sent by Cornelius, having made inquiry for Simon’s house, stood at the gate 18and called out to ask whether Simon who was called Peter was lodging there. 19And while Peter was pondering the vision, the Spirit said to him, “Behold, three men are looking for you. 20Rise and go down and accompany them without hesitation, for I have sent them.” 21And Peter went down to the men and said, “I am the one you are looking for. What is the reason for your coming?” 22And they said, “Cornelius, a centurion, an upright and God-fearing man, who is well spoken of by the whole Jewish nation, was directed by a holy angel to send for you to come to his house and to hear what you have to say.” 23So he invited them in to be his guests.

The next day he rose and went away with them, and some of the brothers from Joppa accompanied him. 24And on the following day they entered Caesarea. Cornelius was expecting them and had called together his relatives and close friends. 25When Peter entered, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I too am a man.” 27And as he talked with him, he went in and found many persons gathered. 28And he said to them, “You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean. 29So when I was sent for, I came without objection. I ask then why you sent for me.”

30And Cornelius said, “Four days ago, about this hour, I was praying in my house at the ninth hour,c and behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing 31and said, ‘Cornelius, your prayer has been heard and your alms have been remembered before God. 32Send therefore to Joppa and ask for Simon who is called Peter. He is lodging in the house of Simon, a tanner, by the sea.’ 33So I sent for you at once, and you have been kind enough to come. Now therefore we are all here in the presence of God to hear all that you have been commanded by the Lord.”

Gentiles Hear the Good News
34So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, 35but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him. 36As for the word that he sent to Israel, preaching good news of peace through Jesus Christ (he is Lord of all), 37you yourselves know what happened throughout all Judea, beginning from Galilee after the baptism that John proclaimed: 38how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him. 39And we are witnesses of all that he did both in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They put him to death by hanging him on a tree, 40but God raised him on the third day and made him to appear, 41not to all the people but to us who had been chosen by God as witnesses, who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. 42And he commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one appointed by God to be judge of the living and the dead. 43To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”

The Holy Spirit Falls on the Gentiles
44While Peter was still saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word. 45And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles. 46For they were hearing them speaking in tongues and extolling God. Then Peter declared, 47“Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” 48And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to remain for some days.
 

loveme1

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I looked up some info on the black israelite cult last night. They apparently stand on street corners yelling at everyone. They even demean other blacks if they are not members of the cult.

The cult actually began years ago with a guy known as Ben Carter from Chicago. He even moved to Israel with the intent of "taking his country back". The Israeli government won't even allow them to become citizens.
I came across some hateful behaviour a while back, exploiting Scripture to exalt themselves....
 
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FIRST OF ALL LET ME TELL YOU HOW THE WORLD IS SET UP BY GOD. WE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL BEINGS LIVING IN BODY SUITS. ALL SPIRITS WERE CREATED FROM THE BEGINNING. NOW EVERY SPIRIT CREATED HAD A CHANCE TO COME DOWN AND LIVE ON EARTH AND TAKE HEED TO THE LAWS OF GOD. A LOT DID NOT. SO THE LORD CHOSE 144,000 OF THEM AS THE FIRST FRUITS. THEN THE LORD LET THE REST RULE THEMSELVES IN WICKEDNESS SINCE THEY WANT TO BE WICKED. ITS LIKE SAYING, IF YOU WANT TO EXIST IN WICKEDNESS, CARRY ON THEN HE REMOVED HIS PROTECTION FROM EVERYONE EXCEPT THE FIRST FRUITS. NOW THE LORD SET IT UP SO THAT FOUR EMPIRES WILL CONTROL THE WORLD DURING THIS WICKED REIGN OF MAN ON EARTH. THE FOUR EMPIRES ARE STARTING OUT WITH THE BABYLONIAN EMPIRE UNDER NIMROD. NEXT WAS THE MEDIO-PERSIAN EMPIRE. NEXT WAS THE GREEK EMPIRE. THEN THE FINAL EMPIRE IS THE ROMAN EMPIRE. THESE EMPIRES ARE CALLED BEASTS. NOW IF YOU STUDY THE BOOK OF DANIELS AND REVELATION THE LAST EMPIRE ON EARTH, THE ROMAN EMPIRE WILL SHIFT ITS POWER BASE TO ITS 10 HORNS ( HORNS MEAN STRENGTH ). THIS IS THE EUROZONE. THE 10 HORNS OF THE EUROZONE IS ENGLAND, GREECE, PORTUGAL, SPAIN, DENMARK, GERMANY, FRANCE, ITALY, BELGIUM AND POLAND. OUT OF THESE 10 HORNS 3 COMBINE TO FORM A STOUT HORN. THE THREE THAT COMBINED ARE FRANCE ( WHICH HAD NEW ORLEANS ), SPAIN (WHICH HAD THE SOUTHERN STATES OF AMERICA ) AND ENGLAND WHICH HAD THE NORTHERN STATES. THESE 3 COMBINED TO FORM THE LITTLE HORN WHICH IS AMERICA. THE LITTLE HORN ( USA ) ( DANIEL 7 VS 25 ) WILL GOON TO WEAR OUT THE SAINTS OF THE MOST HIGH THROUGH SLAVERY, JIM CROW, LYNCHINGS, BRUTALITY ETC. NOW AS YOU CAN SEE, THE EUROZONE AND USA IS THE FOURTH BEAST WHICH IS THE ROMAN EMPIRE. IF YOU LOOK AT ALL YOUR BUILDINGS IN AMERICA AND EUROPE THEY ARE ALL LIKE THE ROMAN EMPIRE BUILDINGS. SO CAUCASIANS, YOU ARE THE FOURTH AND FINAL BEAST AND YOUR BIBLICAL NAME IS KNOWN AS THE EDOMITES. EVERYONE ON EARTH HAS A BIBLICAL NAME. YOU WERE NOT ALWAYS CALLED CAUCASIANS. IN BIBLICAL TIMES ( WHICH WE ARE STILL IN BIBLICAL TIMES BECAUSE THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN END FROM BEGINNING ( ISAIAH 46 VS 10 ) YOU WERE THE NATION OF EDOM. NOW YOUR EMPIRE IS IN CHARGE AND DESIGNED TO BE IN CHARGE UNTIL A SET TIME ( WHICH I THINK WE ARE CLOSE TO NOW FROM THE SIGNS OF WHAT I AM SEEING ). HOWEVER DURING THE EARLY INCEPTION OF THE SECOND PART OF YOUR EMPIRE CALLED THE EUROPEAN RENNAISANCE, YOUR PEOPLE WHITE WASHED ALL THE FORMER ICONS AND PRESENTED AN IMAGE OF CHRIST THAT THE WORLD SHOULD WORSHIP. THAT WHITE IMAGE OF CHRIST IS KNOWN AS THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST ( THE BEAST IS THE ROMAN EMPIRE ). THE WORLD WOULD BE DECIEVED BY THIS IMAGE, HOWEVER ONLY THE PART OF THE WORLD WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD ( AS I SAID THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN END FROM BEGINNING SO THE LORD ALREADY KNEW THOSE WHO WOULD MAKE IT-ISAIAH 46 VS 10 ). WORSHIPPING THAT IMAGE OF THE BEAST IS A STRONG DELUSION THAT THE LORD ALLOWS TO HAPPEN TO THOSE WHO ARE WICKED. YOUR PEOPLE ( EDOMITES ) ARE THE ANOINTED CHERUB THAT COVERETH. YOU COVERED ALL THE REAL ICONS >>>> ( 1 MACCABEES 3 VS 48 ) ( JOB 9 VS 24 ). NOW WHAT IS THE REAL IMAGE OF CHRIST AND THE JEWS BEFORE IT WAS CHANGED BY THE EDOMITES ? LETS LOOK AT THESE VERSES. AND ONLY USE THE KJV TO CHECK THESE VERSES BECAUSE OTHER BIBLES ARE CORRUPTED. SCRIPTURE SAYS CHRIST IS FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH ( HEBREWS 7 VS 14 ). NOW LETS LOOK AT THE REAL COLOR OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH. LOOK AT THESE VERSES ( LAMENTATIONS 4 VS 8 ) ( LAMENTATIONS 5 VS 10 ) ( JOB 30 VS 30 ) (SONG OF SOLOMON 1 VS 6 ). THATS THE COLOR OF CHRIST. AND WHEN IT SAYS IN DANIEL 7 VS 25 THAT THE LITTLE HORN ( USA ) WILL WEAR OUT THE SAINTS OF THE MOST HIGH BY SLAVERY ( DEUTERONOMY 28 VS 68 ), LYNCHINGS ( REVELATIONS 17 VS 6 ), JIM CROW ETC ETC, THOSE SAINTS OF THE MOST HIGH ARE THE NEGROS. THE NEGROS ARE THE BIBLICAL JEWS AND THE ONES IN ISRAEL TODAY ARE NOT ( REVELATION 2 VS 9 ) AND (REVELATION 3 VS 9 ). SO YOU ASK, IF THE NEGROS ARE THE REAL JEWS WHY ARE THEY SO JACKED UP. WELL SEEING AS THEY WERE THE FIRST TO BE GIVEN THE LAWS, THEY WERE THE FIRST TO BE PUNISHED ( 1 PETER 4 VS 17 ). THIS PUNISHMENT IS WHAT IS CALLED HELL NOT SOME PLACE IN THE GROUND ( PSALMS 9 VS 17 ). YOUR NATION OF PEOPLE IS TURNED TO HELL. IF YOU WANT TO GET AN INSIDE LOOK INTO THE HELL, ITS CALLED THE DEUTERONOMY 28 CURSES. READ DEUTERONOMY 28 VS 15 TO 68. PART OF THE HELL IS THAT YOU WILL BE MADE A STUPID NATION. YES THE LORD IS ABLE TO TAKE AWAY THE KNOWLEDGE ( MALACHI 2 VS 9 ) AND BEAUTY ( ZECHARIAH 11 VS 10 ) OF A NATION. THESE ARE ALL PART OF HELL. AND THIS HELL, WHICH INCLUDES SLAVERY WILL HAPPEN TO YOUR NATION TOO ( DEUTERONOMY 30 VS 7 ) ( ISAIAH 14 VS 2 ) ( JEREMIAH 30 VS 16 ). NOW CAUCASIANS, I HATE TO BE THE BEARER OF BAD NEWS BUT ALMOST EVERYONE IN YOUR NATION OF PEOPLE IS GOING INTO HARDCORE SLAVERY AND HARDCORE HELL. ONLY A FEW WILL MAKE IT IN YOUR NATION ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES. AND ALL YOUR COUNTRIES ARE GOING TO GET DESTROYED IN THERMONUCLEAR FIRE ( MALACHI 1 VS 1-4 ) ( REVELATION 18 AND 19 ) ( JOEL CHAPTER 3 ) AND TO GET A DESCRIPTION OF THE NUKES GO TO ZECHARIAH 5 VS 1-4.

WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE CRUX OF THE MATTER. ALL THIS WHILE YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO. YOUR EMPIRE BEING ON TOP WAS PART OF THE PLAN BUT YOUR PEOPLE HAVE USED THAT POWER TO CHANGE THE IMAGE OF CHRIST TO MAKE THE WORLD WORSHIP THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST AND HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST IN THEIR HEADS ( THOUGHTS ) AND HANDS ( DEEDS ) WHICH IS YOUR DEMOCRACY, YOUR CAPITALISM, YOUR PROMISCUITY, VIOLENCE, WARS, ETC ETC. BASICALLY THE WESTERN LIFESTYLE. NOW WE ARE AT THE END OF YOUR EMPIRE AND THE KINGDOM IS GETTING READY TO BE ESTABLISHED AFTER WW3 WHICH IS THE BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON. I AM SURE IT IS OBVIOUS TO YOU SO THIS IS MY DUTY TO TRY TO SAVE THE MEEK AMONGST YOU AND BRING YOU INTO THE KINGDOM. ONLY A FEW OF YOUR NATION ( EDOM ) WILL MAKE IT ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES BECAUSE YOU HAVE EXHIBITED GREAT PRIDE WHILE IN CONTROL SO MOST OF YOU ARE MARKED FOR HELL. HOWEVER THE FIRST STEP IS TO GET YOU TO STEP AWAY FROM WORSHIPPING THAT IMAGE OF THE BEAST ( THE WHITE IMAGE ) AND TO WORSHIP THE REAL CHRIST AS DESCRIBED IN THE SCRIPTURES. JOHN 7 VS 38 SAYS HE WHO WORSHIPS ME AS THE SCRIPTURE HAS DESCRIBED ME, OUT OF HIS BELLY SHALL FLOW RIVERS OF LIVING WATERS. IT IS TIME TO THROW DOWN THE GAUNTLET. THIS IS IT. ARE YOU READY TO WORSHIP OUR LORD AS THE SCRIPTURE HAS DESCRIBED HIM AS A DARK SKINNED BLACK MAN WITH WOOLY WHITE AFRO ( WISDOM TURNS THE HAIR WHITE ) OR ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE WORSHIPPING THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST ? THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU GOING TO HELL OR MAKING THE RIGHT STEPS TO BE SAVED FROM HELL. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR CHOICES
 
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I came across some hateful behaviour a while back, exploiting Scripture to exalt themselves....
we were told in the last days, many would come doing this.
 

loveme1

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Just wanted to add that i did meet a friendly member of this type of belief, he did not come across threatening or rude.

On this forum too.
 
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Are you Jahovah whittness?
 

Elizabeth619

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Just wanted to add that i did meet a friendly member of this type of belief, he did not come across threatening or rude.

On this forum too.
Some are very kind and peaceful. That's true, but doesn't make their beliefs correct. Apparently the "leader" of the BHI is rather peaceful. There is no record of him being violent. Some of the followers take it to extremes.
 
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nonicknametouse

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Thanks for this info. The man sounds hateful.
 

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@Seoulsearch

What do you think, was Jesus Asian? Would you insist on worshipping an Asian Saviour? Personally, I don't see how the colour of His Incarnated skin is so important.
*smile*

I am not looking for an Asian Jesus, no. As far as we all know, He was Jewish... I often wonder if maybe Jesus looked like he was a Heinz 57... to kind of mix in with everyone. I don't know. And I believe that as we do with Jesus, we take people as they are, without trying to mold or wish them into a certain racial profile.

What did Jesus look like? We really have no idea.

But the good news is, we'll all find out someday!!!
 
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I'm going to send a copy of this thread to my aforementioned (black) friend... We have talks about racial issues all the time.

He says I'm the whitest white girl he's ever met. :)

I wonder if the original poster would feel better if I personally hold up a banner: "WHITE GIRL SAY, 'NEGROES RULE ONE DAY!!!!'"
It would be interesting to find out how your black friend would feel about the "NEGROES" comment. :) I wonder if he would prefer "Black" or "African-American". Just curious. :)
 

seoulsearch

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It would be interesting to find out how your black friend would feel about the "NEGROES" comment. :) I wonder if he would prefer "Black" or "African-American". Just curious. :)
He doesn't mind "black" at all... I've known him 10 years and have never heard him refer to himself as "African American".

He's just a down-home, regular person! No need for all the political correctness in our friendship, at least.

And yes, I'm sending off my letter to him later this week. :) He'll have some strong opinions for sure, since there is a mixture of white and black in his family.
 
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The most interesting thing about this thread is the number of bigoted remarks coming from those denouncing racism. :)
 
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He doesn't mind "black" at all... I've known him 10 years and have never heard him refer to himself as "African American".

He's just a down-home, regular person! No need for all the political correctness in our friendship, at least.

And yes, I'm sending off my letter to him later this week. :) He'll have some strong opinions for sure, since there is a mixture of white and black in his family.
Most black people I know just don't happen to care for the word, Negroes. That was what I was referring to. :)
 

seoulsearch

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Most black people I know just don't happen to care for the word, Negroes. That was what I was referring to. :)
If he uses the word, it's in a joking manner. Such as... "Hey... just your Negro friend here..." :D
 
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*smile*

I am not looking for an Asian Jesus, no. As far as we all know, He was Jewish... I often wonder if maybe Jesus looked like he was a Heinz 57... to kind of mix in with everyone. I don't know. And I believe that as we do with Jesus, we take people as they are, without trying to mold or wish them into a certain racial profile.

What did Jesus look like? We really have no idea.

But the good news is, we'll all find out someday!!!
I think we do have an idea!! well, no, we are not told, but there are a few clues. There was much less mobility in society then (in Jesus day) It is so interesting that in all the movies...well, a lot of them! Jesus is depicted as white and quite handsome....

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But actually, Jesus is apparently of quite 'ordinary' (there is a Scripture to support me in this but I cannot pull it up:) and...Jesus would not have been a 'white' a 'caucasian'...he was middle Eastern. He lived in the middle East. Just a thought...for my half pennyworth . When i 'picture' my Lord, he is a man from the Middle east....not white. In fact it can be offensive, that i would imagine my Lord as an 'Arab'.....we do tend to have such terribly bias. It makes me think when i visit catholic churches in Europe and see Christ hanging on the cross...so sad that one must repeatedly stand beneath such defeat that is TRUTH but also all such depicted Christs are 'alabaster ' pale of skin and most definitely 'caucasian, covered modestly & long haired'. Interesting!! <><
 
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It's funny how the history books have depictions of cavemen that people don't find reason to disagree about. And yet, there is so much drama concerning what Christ looked like. Based on the region someone was from, even several thousand years ago, I suspect there are historians, scientist, etc. who have a good idea of what Christ might have looked like. Of course, that's if one were inclined to believe those liberal-minded, scholarly types. :) Nevertheless, I think most would agree that it really doesn't matter what color or what type of hair, except for the sake of argument. :)
 
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While in Navy boot camp, very few white boys seemed to have trouble passing the swim test. On the other hand, there was a disproportionately high number of nonwhite boys, who were required to repeat a week or two of boot camp, learning to swim. Some of these guys had to be discharged.
 
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