If We're All Such Relationship Experts, Why Are We All Single?

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seoulsearch

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How Much Is the Advice of Single People Really Worth??!


Hey Everyone,

I was just thinking... There are several of us here (I was thinking of myself, but we're kind of one big gang in a way :)) who post in nearly every thread in the singles forum. We have lots to say, share, and give (admittedly) plenty of advice, judgment, or opinions (sometimes unsolicited) about things we may NEVER have experienced or been through ourselves.

And yet, most of us feel we can give a meaningful answer, Scripture, or "this is what you do or don't do" answer--people sometimes even give us "likes" for our answers! :D

But how reliable and valid can our advice be if we're all either not in relationships or are the product of situations that didn't work out?

If we all know so much and can easily proclaim "how it should be" or "what you should do" or "this is what God says", why is it that so many of us have been in relationships that ended, and continue to either find failure or are by ourselves? (I'm thinking of those in particular who are actively seeking or trying and not so much the people who've already said they are content or not looking, because if you're not looking, it obviously lowers the chance for failure :))

A wise poster here once wrote that he wondered if the Singles Forum was often "the blind leading the blind", which I think is a very valid point!! I often wish we'd hear from our married friends who have the experience and years to back what they say.

The inspiration for this thread was my old church, who, for a month, held a Question and Answer Session about Marriage and Relationships during a month's worth of sermons. People could write in honest, anonymous answers and the panel that answered all had varying degrees of actual experience--for example, a young marriage that had worked through an affair, an older couple who'd been married 40+ years, someone who had been single most of their life, and people who had been through divorce or death of a spouse.

I DO NOT mean this thread to be disrespectful in any way to anyone out there--I love reading people's posts here.

But I also have to wonder... How much is all of our advice worth in the pursuit of a successful marriage? And how much are we missing out on by not having a more experienced panel to pull from? (Or maybe it doesn't exist... If we placed an ad for "Experienced, Happily Married Couples Wanted to Share and Give Advice", how many couples would apply? One look at all the posts in the Family Thread doesn't seem to be a good sign.) After all, if you want to be a doctor, people who have BEEN to the doctor might all have an opinion, and it might be somewhat motivating, but they might not have much practical advice to get you where you want to go.

Then again, I know there is a good chance that all the Happily Married Couples are out being happy and married instead of hanging around us single folks. :)
 
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BarlyGurl

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Basic answer to thread title....
I am single 10+ years out of divorce because the divorce hurt me so much it took 5 years for me to even think about a relationship and then another 3 for me to execute full inventory to convince myself I was healed, restored and ready. So for the last couple years I have met a few men but not yet "the Man". I am an introvert...and VERY firm about the man initiating contact and the relationship... that is the "fence" I surround myself with to keep myself available and safely in God's will. I don't think 2 years is that big of a deal... and try to keep the other eight in perspective... as I wasn't anywhere near ready, willing or available...
 
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zaoman32

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I find no reason anyone should ignore my advice...ever

Seriously though, yes I do have to have an opinion about everything (which is why I'm posting) yes, I thrive for the ego boosts I get from people "liking" my opinions (and from a genius mind and the statuesque form of a greek sculpture who wouldn't like my input). But typically if I do have experience in a certain situation I feel the need to share my experience, and tell others in order for them to avoid any heartache, and keep from making stupid mistakes.


I know, I'm a genius, you can "like" now.
 
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MissCris

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Hmm...well, I'm married, and I occasionally peek into this forum, but mostly I stay away because I feel like I've got no business hanging out here. Like, if I tried to give advice to single people, they'd be all, "What do YOU know about it? You're all married and stuff!"

Hahaha I guess maybe I'll check this forum out more often, see if I've got anything to offer :D
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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Well,speaking as someone who was married 9 years & now divorced & single for just over a year,I'm not looking to re-marry. (at least any time soon) If that's what God has for me,cool..if not...no biggie. I have noticed that a great many christians seem to never really give their emotions or desires full over to God,or at least submit them daily to him & his word. It's one thing to say "I am trusting God to find me a partner" and be open to his leading & another thing to seriously TRUST him that he'll do it. I think there's a constant battle that goes on within the heart & mind 24-7 with this in many single christians. It's hard...so hard sometimes to stop taking back those things we have given over to the Lord in prayer. Some days it's easier than others,but I know for myself there are areas in my life I need to have my mind renewed over & over again until it because a heart knowledge & not just something I can spit forth chapter & verse from my memory. I guess what I am getting at,is patience & supplication. Even if a person has been in a "failed" relationship,like myself it doesn't mean my advice or things the Lord has shown me about relationships is meaningless. All of us here,divorced,dating,virgins,singles wanting to date or marry...young,old...have some wisdom to share. It's tough for sure,but I think we also obsess about it way too much. You make very valid & good points seoulsearch,I totally get where yer' coming from. Hopefully God will reveal more each day how to handle what he's said in his word & how to be at peace with ourselves. Just sayin...:)
 
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Chr

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God has a good plan for us.He is teaching us patience and we learn our happiness is in Him so we can bless and love our future spouses, and they are learning the same thing.
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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Hmm...well, I'm married, and I occasionally peek into this forum, but mostly I stay away because I feel like I've got no business hanging out here. Like, if I tried to give advice to single people, they'd be all, "What do YOU know about it? You're all married and stuff!"

Hahaha I guess maybe I'll check this forum out more often, see if I've got anything to offer :D
Noooooooooooo MissCris you have to pop in MORE! I lurves seeing yer' cool purple hair!!!! You Rock!:cool:
 

rachelsedge

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Hmm, I see your point, and there are some threads where I just won't post at all or my advice should be taken with a grain of salt (and I'll usually say so).

However, my opinion is this: I don't need to be in a relationship, or have been in one before (of that variety, at least) to see when a relationship/person is toxic, hurtful, or not Biblical. Sometimes an outside perspective, even if I don't have any specific "personal experience",, can be beneficial.

I've had many friends come to me for relationship advice (not just for boyfriends either) because they trust my judgement. It's not that I know exactly what they're talking about, but I can give a perspective or ideas that they may not have thought of before.

So, in conclusion, I see your point and agree with it, but only to an extent. ;)

Edited to add: I have never had a boyfriend, been asked, or been pursued (which answers the question of why I'm still single, ha), just for some perspective on my post. I literally have NO experience. So maybe this post in and of itself should be taken with a grain of salt. :cool:
 
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AAAPlus

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A really good point. I think a lot of the singles advice on here come from scripture or experience. There are a lot of dilemmas that come up here that have pretty key problems; it doesn't take a tenured married couple to know that sex and living together before marriage are wrong, or that dating/courting should only be done with a marriage-focused mindset. While there are sometimes many opinions across the board, sometimes everyone can agree when a certain person is too young or immature to be pursuing certain things in a relationship. It doesn't take a PhD to know that it's generally better for the girls to be pursued and the guys to do the pursuing. And sometimes everyone needs to be told to trust in God more sometimes.

On top of that, many singles here have experience so while they may not have it all together, they at least have some valuable nuggets of wisdom on what NOT to do, or how they would do things better the next time.

Granted, there are a fair few people who just give absolutely terrible advice. In my experience though, the vast majority of responses are pretty on-target.

Also consider the fact that frequenting the singles forum may be a decent indicator that you're a person who is quite dedicated to making a potential relationship work. So while you may be quite knowledgeable on the subject of relationships and quite capable of having a Godly relationship, it's quite possible that in the past it has been the other person who was the problem.
 
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Chr

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When I said love I meant agape love we are being conformed to the image of Christ.
 
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God is in control.Praise the Lord
 
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dashadow

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The Spirit should be one's guide on the merits of advice in all matters. And I believe God can speak through anyone. That's why I think it's wise to listen to other's opinions. I don't care what a person's race, age, religion, marital status, politics, etc. are, it doesn't hurt to hear them out. And if I think they're talking nonsense, I'll just steer clear of their advice.

I'm not saying experience doesn't matter. But there are a lot of people who have experienced things and don't seem to have learned from the experiences. Then there are others who might not have experienced something, but they have considered the matter thoroughly and the Spirit has provided them with more insight.

It's all but impossible to find someone you feel gives sound advice one hundred percent of the time. But I don't find it that difficult to notice those who consistently give pretty good advice. In this age of social media, there are so many people who think they can give expert advice by copying and pasting something they find on google or in the scriptures. The Faithful and wise will let the Spirit validate what is sound and what is not.
 
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I get all my relationship knowledge from fortune cookies and bubble gum wrappers. :p
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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I'm also learning Chinese,getting my Lotto numbers & the occasional Palooka Joe comicstrip as well.
 
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arwen83

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Cus I haven't met anyone who I have connected well with. So in the meantime, I post the 'abundance' of 'wisdom' that I have :p
 
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richie_2uk

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most of the time why people aren't so successful in relationships, is that, some people Don't seek God before hand. God's will and God's wisdom don't play a part in some relationship. Sorry if I offend, but truth of the matter, Some people don't put God first in there relationships. So no God, No successful relationship.
 

leelee

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IDK why we are all still single but I can tell you why we ask each other and why we listen. Think of an agony aunt, they can and generally do give good advice, they have not experienced everything people write to them about but it does not stop their ability to empathise and look at something from an outside perspective. So basically we can offer good advice without personal experience. We can also offer good advice with personal experience.
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
May 23, 2009
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most of the time why people aren't so successful in relationships, is that, some people Don't seek God before hand. God's will and God's wisdom don't play a part in some relationship. Sorry if I offend, but truth of the matter, Some people don't put God first in there relationships. So no God, No successful relationship.
Hi Richie,

We all know that without God, relationships will fail.

But we all know Godly people with failed relationships. Many of them are pastors and Christian teachers.

What I'm asking in this thread is, we all know what to do and what not to do. We all know to seek God, and we all know that if God isn't in it, it's going to fall.

But what I'm asking is, If we all know that... if we all know what to do... But yet, most of us are either from failed relationships or do not have successful relationships so... Why do we think we can tell everyone else how to have a successful relationship?

If you know someone who has read every cookbook in the library, can quote tips from Julia Child, but yet can't seem to boil water in the actual kitchen, even if they know what to do... How much should you listen to their advice?
 
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Ugly

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Knowing how to be in a relationship is not the same as knowing how to enter one. Being in a relationship is figuring out to how to make things work with one person you know well, trying to get into one is trying to figure out how to make things work with random people you know nothing about, or even if they are interested in you. Not really the same thing.