The Language Barrier

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MissCris

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The only accents I have a real problem understanding are peeps from the deep south...but not all parts of the deep south,I dunno...I think I have deep seeded issues or something.lol
Sounds more like "deep south issues".
 
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BlessedLovedByGod

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I think ur grandmother is cool for having a thought that LOL means loving...

as far as the person can understand hand signal it does not matter lol
language barrier... not really just the accent.. sometimes it takes time to understand.
but it doesnt matter they are kind enough to repeat it again. People here in cc are nice and friendly. :)
 
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Relena7

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I know! Coloradans always say they don't though (I was making fun of us) and then people from other parts of the country that we say that to are just like..."Um, yes. Yes you do."
I'm from Ohio and have been to Colorado before. I didn't notice any accent different to ours when I was visiting there.

it is Wadah.
need to have wadah for some cawfee
You're both wrong. It's "wadder". lol

The british might say "waTer" more accurately than we do, but they pronounce some other things different to how they are spelled that we say the right way, so it evens out in the end.

Example: they say "sloath" instead of "sloth" and "free" instead of "THree". :p
 

Liamson

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Well the strange thing is that we use the word "Meaning" to describe the effect of a word.

Like If I Imply by saying, "Hello?" as in 'do you see what you are doing/ what is wrong with you.' It is in fact not a greeting but, something entirely different.

Or Hello? ........is anyone there?

In philosophy It sort of begs the question of what is the transcendental meaning of the word hello but, frankly there isn't one. It simply is a tool to express something discreet and nondescript.

Sort of how every culture has an Idiom but, when broken down or reduced to simply its definitions, it makes no sense anymore.

How is James?
"James kicked the bucket"
oh, how sad.


See what I did there. A person's knowledge of buckets is irrelevant. The meaning of Bucket, or kicking is also irrelevant. The Utility of the phrase, implies that James is dead. ;)



But the peculiar thing is that Almost everything we say works this way to some degree. Like an Inch isn't anything at all but its a Metaphor for a particular length. But length isn't a thing either, its an idea of the way things are arranged. But even an idea isn't a thing, it is simply the most useful description of our ability to "grasp a concept" which is funny because we aren't actually grasping anything.

If we simply have a shared utility of an expression between two people, we can understand each other enough to get the job done. When I say dog and you think of a cylindrical meat product and I was referring to a furry 4 legged pet, we are not on the same page. However with some more fancy ideas being shot back and forth, we will have context and from there we can extract meaning.


Language is a funny thing :)
 

HEIsRiSen

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Here in Ohio there is a huge number of people who call "soda" -- "pop". I have heard many people from other states who were confused by this, and then you have the people from the South who call all kinds and brands of soda "coke".

I am pretty sure at one time "lol" actually did mean "lots of love" leelee. The languages in just about all cultures are constantly changing and dare I say....evolving.
 

Liamson

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I was debating about whether or not to take this to another level but I might as well.


When we use the word God. As is God is great. Or God is merciful. We are using metaphors to describe or relate to something beyond description or relation. Like what we know of Mercy and the utility of that word and how we understand its demonstration, this is something very different from the concept of God.

This is fine, so long as we are describing things that we agree on, like Mercy or Patience or Justice. But when it comes to more complex attributes like Love or Eternity, I firmly believe that many of us are on different pages. And I think it changes the way we see and interact with God.


In the same way that a Calvinist and a non-Calvinist understand and experience the Character of God as he relates to people differently. I believe that very similar divides occur and go unaddressed, simply because our understanding of the way love is and the relationship experience and definition we associate with love is. And when we are painting a picture of how God relates to us and the experience we have with Him, if our Love is different than the Love as someone else understands it, Our use of the Word God will be different that the way someone else understands God.

...we now resume regular programming with kittens and food and silly instagram photos.
 
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Powemm

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every year my family and I go to ocean city new jersey
People are always asking me if I'm from the south... Yes. Sir...
Yes ma'am ... I yam what I yam ... I'm very southern .. Not Hickish or redneckish ... Simply southern :)
 
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Zee_Zelot

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I was in Chicago Illinois when I was a young man and needed directions and no one I ask could understand my speech, so I did the best I could with the map that I had. Everyone here in Georgia understands my speech.
 

leelee

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I'm from Ohio and have been to Colorado before. I didn't notice any accent different to ours when I was visiting there.



You're both wrong. It's "wadder". lol

The british might say "waTer" more accurately than we do, but they pronounce some other things different to how they are spelled that we say the right way, so it evens out in the end.

Example: they say "sloath" instead of "sloth" and "free" instead of "THree". :p
No, only some do that. I say sloth and three and thief and thought, there are many accents in the UK. Some with better pronunciation than others.
 
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SeatBelt

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East Texas has two T's, for they are leftovers from the "Proppah South". West Texas only has one T.


Tonight @ church 3 of the bible classes had a combined fellowship. It was a Chili & Pie cook-off, with the men bringing pies and the ladies bringing chili. There was more than enough pies, and more than enough chili. I spotted this as my opportunity to make cornbread, which I love dearly but my kids won't touch.

So there I was with 4 pans of cornbread all done different ways and people asking me about the cornbread... and me lapsing into the most uneducated, backwoods, off in the hollers, down by the crick country sounding voice I'd never heard come out of my mouth. It was strictly involuntarily and as unsettling as it was comfortable.



Now that I think of it, I sorta talk that way when I'm eating hog maws, collard greens, and other foods of the "soul" variety.
 

DuchessAimee

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I actually have an accent and I hide it pretty well.

In 2004 I was in a car accident. My head was slammed into the dashboard and I broke my right orbit, right cheek bone, nose, and I have a slight dent in my forehead. I had a concussion for almost 4 months. I had to learn to read at a college level again, I lost 10 IQ points, and most of my childhood memories are gone. All of this to say the icing on the cake is something called Foreign Language Syndrome. Mine is a mild case, not enough to be mentioned in medical books like some, but I speak with a slight English accent now. It's muddled, like my mom was from the States and my dad was from England type of thing, but it's there. When I allow myself, I lapse into it, but for the most part, I've gotten good at hiding it. However, if I'm extremely tired it comes out. I haven't told many people about it because it's difficult to explain.
 
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Tintin

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Yes, there's a language barrier. I'm an Aussie (oh, really?) and on some other forums of which I've been a member, I've received PMs from moderators about my blunt posts and language. I thought I was being perfectly respectable. By Australian standards, I'm considered something of a goodie goodie. I was really surprised by the language one especially, since I didn't say anything worse than the word for poo, starting with a 'c'. As for my 'honest' posts, they were loving but they didn't beat around the bush like Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice. I find that some Americans just can't take a joke and are offended by anything. On the flip side, perhaps Aussies don't take enough things seriously.
 

rachelsedge

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Tintin I think your Aussie language is cute. Something about crickets, "rellies" (I had to Google that one) and some other things I can't think of, but I remember reading it and just going "...HA."

In a good way. :D

Maybe I shouldn't say "cute". Might make the male Aussies feel less masculine. Hmm, um...delightful?
 
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Tintin

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I'm fine with cute. :)
It's good to hear that you've been researching some of our uniquely Australian language. We do have some strange ones!
 

DuchessAimee

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I like how language changes, but I don't like how people change grammar. Nope, not a fan. And I HATE text language! l8t? Just type later. It's not more difficult and it doesn't really save characters. In an age of unlimited texting, just type everything out!
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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I've always been told I have no accent at all. Funny thing is,if I'm on the phone at work and I happen to be speaking with a customer from where I grew up in Upstate NY,they know immediately that I am from there. We compare notes & they always say the same thing...that people in other parts of the country say to them as well that they have no accent either.
 

leelee

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Everyone has an accent, I would guess all you american folk have an american accent. I have a mangled Shetland/Orkney/Glaswegian accent.
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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Everyone has an accent, I would guess all you american folk have an american accent. I have a mangled Shetland/Orkney/Glaswegian accent.
So,if you can leelee..name a famous actor or musician your accent would sound similar to,so I can get an idea.