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Blain

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Okay so i am sure this thread will cause lots of problems as sensitive subjects such as this do, but I knew that I had to spread the message. As the title says the rapture is here, it may be today, it may be a week from now or a month from but the fact is the rapture is going to happen VERY soon. God has sent his prophets to tell the good news of returning home, but people wouldn't listen. God has shown many signs and prophesies being fulfilled yet no one believes him, And he has given many dreams and visions but some cannot trust him. This is what i know- the rapture is about to happen. This will happen before the tribulation and it will happen fast. We no longer need to worry about the mark or the beast because we the bride will not be here to endure that. There is a wedding on the way and many are called but few are chosen.
 
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Blain, have fun and be thick skinned. Many will call you crazy. But i'm crazy too. love ya bro. hang in there.
 

Blain

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Blain, have fun and be thick skinned. Many will call you crazy. But i'm crazy too. love ya bro. hang in there.
LOL my family already thinks i'm nuts, but for some this message will bring joy, in others they will just want to argue about it. The Lord knows who he has chosen, he knew who would listen.
 
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Okay so i am sure this thread will cause lots of problems as sensitive subjects such as this do, but I knew that I had to spread the message. As the title says the rapture is here, it may be today, it may be a week from now or a month from but the fact is the rapture is going to happen VERY soon. God has sent his prophets to tell the good news of returning home, but people wouldn't listen. God has shown many signs and prophesies being fulfilled yet no one believes him, And he has given many dreams and visions but some cannot trust him. This is what i know- the rapture is about to happen. This will happen before the tribulation and it will happen fast. We no longer need to worry about the mark or the beast because we the bride will not be here to endure that. There is a wedding on the way and many are called but few are chosen.
Can't agree more! But be ready with Bible verses because "some" may need proof :D Stay blessed and ready, brother in Christ!!
 
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wdeaton65

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Rapture ok did any of these prophets give any scripture with these prophesies perhaps. I mean GOD says HE would give us the end from the beginning. One thing how do you know these guys are prophets. thanks
 
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Rapture ok did any of these prophets give any scripture with these prophesies perhaps. I mean GOD says HE would give us the end from the beginning. One thing how do you know these guys are prophets. thanks
Okay who said what to the where. Huh what are you saying?????????????
 
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If ant post tribber can answer my question that I posted in end time prophecy debate thread, I might slightly reconsider.
 
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Okay so i am sure this thread will cause lots of problems as sensitive subjects such as this do, but I knew that I had to spread the message. As the title says the rapture is here, it may be today, it may be a week from now or a month from but the fact is the rapture is going to happen VERY soon. God has sent his prophets to tell the good news of returning home, but people wouldn't listen. God has shown many signs and prophesies being fulfilled yet no one believes him, And he has given many dreams and visions but some cannot trust him. This is what i know- the rapture is about to happen. This will happen before the tribulation and it will happen fast. We no longer need to worry about the mark or the beast because we the bride will not be here to endure that. There is a wedding on the way and many are called but few are chosen.
Rapture ok did any of these prophets give any scripture with these prophesies perhaps. I mean GOD says HE would give us the end from the beginning. One thing how do you know these guys are prophets. thanks
 
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Thought I would copy it and paste here. so the post tribbers wouldn't have to search.

I don't think it is possible for you or anyone, save The Holy Spirit, to show me other wise. To me Post Trib makes absolutely no sense at all. God has always provided an escape from His wrath for those that trust in Him. He is God and there is no other and He changes not.

Explain to me where the Christians come from in the Millennium Reign if there all raptured at the second coming of Christ. Who will He Reign over and it is given that we will reign with Him. Know ye not that we shall judge angels.

The bible is very clear, that there will be people saved during the tribulation. The rapture being a great witness to many. Most will be killed. but, many will live through it and remain in this body for a thousand years. Children will be born that have never been tempted by Satan. God is a true and just God and always protects His righteousness. These people that will be born during this reign of Christ experience no temptation as we have and that is unjust. That's why Satan will be released at the end for a season and remarkable many will fall and go against christ. Human nature wants so badly to worship itself that even after seeing Christ they will fall to Satan's pride.
 
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Thought I would copy it and paste here. so the post tribbers wouldn't have to search.

I don't think it is possible for you or anyone, save The Holy Spirit, to show me other wise. To me Post Trib makes absolutely no sense at all. God has always provided an escape from His wrath for those that trust in Him. He is God and there is no other and He changes not.

Explain to me where the Christians come from in the Millennium Reign if there all raptured at the second coming of Christ. Who will He Reign over and it is given that we will reign with Him. Know ye not that we shall judge angels.

The bible is very clear, that there will be people saved during the tribulation. The rapture being a great witness to many. Most will be killed. but, many will live through it and remain in this body for a thousand years. Children will be born that have never been tempted by Satan. God is a true and just God and always protects His righteousness. These people that will be born during this reign of Christ experience no temptation as we have and that is unjust. That's why Satan will be released at the end for a season and remarkable many will fall and go against christ. Human nature wants so badly to worship itself that even after seeing Christ they will fall to Satan's pride.
Where would I start. There are to ends spoken of in Rev. One is a counterfiet the other is the real thing. One kingdom built here another is coming with the Lord. Everything has got to fit.
 
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Where would I start. There are to ends spoken of in Rev. One is a counterfiet the other is the real thing. One kingdom built here another is coming with the Lord. Everything has got to fit.
My friend have you ever known God to be counterfeit. The false one cannot rise to power unless the righteous are removed. The main reason that people will look at him in awe is that he will solve the crisis of the middle east. leaders have been trying to do that since 1948. The church and the Holy Spirit that operates only through those that live in the cross must be removed. Know ye not that ye are the salt of the earth.

I have a whole essay that I been writing on this very fact. I hope to post it soon. I am not the guru of all endtime events. But I can find no one who trust in a post trib to answer my question with some sort of truth.
 
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My friend have you ever known God to be counterfeit. The false one cannot rise to power unless the righteous are removed. The main reason that people will look at him in awe is that he will solve the crisis of the middle east. leaders have been trying to do that since 1948. The church and the Holy Spirit that operates only through those that live in the cross must be removed. Know ye not that ye are the salt of the earth.

I have a whole essay that I been writing on this very fact. I hope to post it soon. I am not the guru of all endtime events. But I can find no one who trust in a post trib to answer my question with some sort of truth.
There is an event for the birth of Jesus. Three kings, born in a manger etc etc.

There is an event for the death of Jesus. Raised from the dead after three days etc etc.

There is an event for the 1000 year rain. and we shall reign on the earth. etc etc.

There is an event for New Jerusalem coming down from God out of heaven etc etc.

There is an event at the last trumpet In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible etc etc.

There is an event for Jesus coming Immediately after the tribulation, the angels gather the elect, etc etc.

But there is NO event in the Bible were Jesus comes BEFOR the tribulation.

But you can squeeeeeeeze some verses to make it sound like there is a pre-trib coming if you like,

but there is NO event in the Bible were Jesus comes before the tribulation.

It’s just strong delusion
 
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In your strong delusion show me the people that Jesus reigns over for 1000 years. Please. In the rapture that Paul speaks of Jesus does not return to the Earth. We shall meet Him in the air. Yes or no. If we meet Him in the air at His second coming to the Earth. Then we are immediately coming back with Him. Because when He comes back He is Coming back to stay. Where do you fit in the marriage supper. and I will ask my question again. Who will Christ reign over if all are raptured at His second coming. The majority of wicked will be destroyed. Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool. Where do the people in these flesh bodies come from that Christ will reign over????
 
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I will ask another, show me in the OT where God poured His wrath on those that trusted in Him
 
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Where would I start. There are to ends spoken of in Rev. One is a counterfiet the other is the real thing. One kingdom built here another is coming with the Lord. Everything has got to fit.
Matthew 24:40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and ... ... "Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. ... Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one left. ...

Luke 17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken ... ... There shall be two men in the field; The...

Nah, rapture, blainers, n-not 'that,', Scripture can't possibly be talking about THAT!!!!

The more you know the better... The Lord leads. Pray, pray for this 'great tribulation' of understanding, remember, you alREADY have the knowledge, Christ peeps :)
Some describe the Second Coming as Jesus taking His, like I AM,Blainers has, earlthepearl, some believe Jesus 2nd coming brings Judgment.
The Lord leads..
New International Version (©2011) for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

New Living Translation (©2007) For you know quite well that the day of the Lord's return will come unexpectedly, like a thief in the night.

English Standard Version (©2001) For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

New American Standard Bible (©1995) For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009) For you yourselves know very well that the Day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night.

International Standard Version (©2012) for you yourselves know very well that the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

NET Bible (©2006) For you know quite well that the day of the Lord will come in the same way as a thief in the night.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) For you truly know that the day of our Lord so comes as a thief in the night.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) You know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003) For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.

American King James Version For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.

American Standard Version For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

Douay-Rheims Bible For yourselves know perfectly, that the day of the Lord shall so come, as a thief in the night.

Darby Bible Translation for ye know perfectly well yourselves, that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief by night.

English Revised Version For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

Webster's Bible Translation For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

Weymouth New Testament For you yourselves know perfectly well that the day of the Lord comes like a thief in the night.

World English Bible For you yourselves know well that the day of the Lord comes like a thief in the night.

Young's Literal Translation for yourselves have known thoroughly that the day of the Lord as a thief in the night doth so come,

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

For yourselves know perfectly -That is, they had been fully taught this. There could be no doubt in their minds respecting it.

The day of the Lord so cometh - Of the Lord Jesus - for so the word "Lord" in the New Testament commonly means; see the notes, Acts 1:24. The "day of the Lord" means that day in which he will be manifested, or in which he will be the prominent object in view of the assembled universe.

As a thief in the night - Suddenly and unexpectedly, as a robber breaks into a dwelling. A thief comes without giving any warning, or any indications of his approach. He not only gives none, but he is careful that none shall be given. It is a point with him that, if possible, the man whose house he is about to rob shall have no means of ascertaining his approach until he comes suddenly upon him; compare Matthew 24:37-43 notes; Luke 12:39-40 notes. In this way the Lord Jesus will return to judgment; and this proves that all the attempts to determine the day, the year, or the century when he will come, must be fallacious. He intends that his coming to this world shall be sudden and unexpected, "like that of a thief in the night;" that there shall be no such indications of his approach that it shall not be sudden and unexpected; and that no warning of it shall be given so that people may know the time of his appearing. If this be not the point of the comparison in expressions like this, what is it? Is there anything else in which his coming will resemble that of a thief? And if this be the true point of comparison, how can it be true that people can ascertain when that is to occur? Assuredly, if they can, his coming will not be like that of a thief; comp. notes on Acts 1:7.

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

For yourselves know perfectly,.... With great exactness and accuracy, with great clearness and perspicuity, as a certain truth, which was made plain and evident to them, and about which there could be no question; and which perfect knowledge they had, either from the words of Christ, Matthew 24:42, or from the ministration of the apostle and his fellow labourers, when among them:

that the day of the Lord; of the Lord Jesus, when he will show himself to be King of kings, and Lord of lords, and the Judge of the whole earth; and which is sometimes styled the day of the Son of man, and the day of God, for Christ will appear then most gloriously, both in his divine and human nature; the day of redemption, that is, of the body from the grave, and from corruption and mortality; and the last day in which will be the resurrection of the dead, and the day of judgment, in which Christ will come to judge the quick and dead: and which

so cometh as a thief in the night; at an unawares, and the Lord himself in that day will so come, Revelation 3:3 respect is had not to the character of the thief, nor to the end of his coming; but to the manner of it, in the dark, indiscernibly, suddenly, and when not thought of and looked for; and such will be the coming of Christ, it will be sudden, and unknown before hand, and when least thought of and expected: and since the Thessalonians knew this full well, it was needless for the apostle to write about the time and season of it; which they were sensible of, could no more be known and fixed, than the coming of a thief into anyone of their houses.

Vincent's Word Studies

Perfectly(ἀκριβως)

See on Luke 1:3.

The dayof the Lord (ἡμέρα κυρίου)

The day of Christ's second coming. In Paul's Epistles this is expressed byἡ ἡμέρα the day, absolutely, 1 Thessalonians 5:4; 1 Corinthians 3:13; Romans 13:12 : ἡἡμέρα ἐκείνη that day, 2 Thessalonians 1:10 : ἡμέραχριστου the dayof Christ, Philippians 1:10; Philippians 2:16 : ἡμέρακυρίου or του κυρίου dayof the Lord, 1 Corinthians 5:5; 1 Thessalonians 5:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:2 : ἡμέρα του κυρίου ἡμωνἹησου (Χριστου), 1 Corinthians 1:8; 2 Corinthians 1:14. These expressions refer to a definite time when the Lord is expected to appear, and Paul expects this appearance soon. Attempts to evade this by referring such expressions to the day of death, or to the advance toward perfection after death until the final judgment, are forced, and are shaped by dogmatic conceptions of the nature of Biblical inspiration. In the O.T. the phrase day of the Lord denotes a time in which God will conspicuously manifest his power and goodness or his penal justice. See Isaiah 2:12; Ezekiel 13:5; Joel 1:15; Joel 2:11; and comp. Romans 2:5. The whole class of phrases is rare in N.T. outside of Paul's Epistles.

As a thief (ὡς κλέπτης)

Comp. Matthew 24:43; Luke 12:39; 2 Peter 3:10; Revelation 16:15, and see on Revelation 3:3.

In the night (ἐννυκιτί)

The ancient church held that the advent was to be expected at night, on an Easter eve. This gave rise to the custom of vigils. Jerome, on Matthew 25:6, says: "It is a tradition of the Jews that Messiah will come at midnight, after the likeness of that season in Egypt when the Passover was celebrated, and the Destroyer came, and the Lord passed over the dwellings. I think that this idea was perpetuated in the apostolic custom, that, on the day of vigils, at the Pascha, it was not allowed to dismiss the people before midnight, since they expected the advent of Christ." It is noteworthy how many of the gospel lessons on watchfulness are associated with the night and a visit by night. See Matthew 24:43; Matthew 25:1-13; Mark 13:35; Luke 12:35, Luke 12:38; Luke 17:34; Luke 12:20.

Geneva Study Bible

For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

People's New Testament

5:2 For yourselves know perfectly. They had been fully taught that the time of the Lord's coming was unrevealed, and that it would be unexpected. Compare Mt 24:43 2Th 2:2 2Pe 3:10 Joe 1:15.

The day of the Lord. Not alone, the day of each individual's death, nor the destruction of Jerusalem, not of the final coming of the Lord at the end of the world, but rather it may be applied to all of these.

As a thief in the night. Without warning. Compare Lu 12:39 Re 3:3.

Wesley's Notes

5:2 For this in general ye do know; and ye can and need know no more.

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

2. as a thief in the night-The apostles in this image follow the parable of their Lord, expressing how the Lord's coming shall take men by surprise (Mt 24:43; 2Pe 3:10). "The night is wherever there is quiet unconcern" [Bengel]. "At midnight" (perhaps figurative: to some parts of the earth it will be literal night), Mt 25:6. The thief not only gives no notice of his approach but takes all precaution to prevent the household knowing of it. So the Lord (Re 16:15). Signs will precede the coming, to confirm the patient hope of the watchful believer; but the coming itself shall be sudden at last (Mt 24:32-36; Lu 21:25-32, 35).

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

5:1-5 It is needless or useless to ask about the particular time of Christ's coming. Christ did not reveal this to the apostles. There are times and seasons for us to work in, and these are our duty and interest to know and observe; but as to the time when we must give up our account, we know it not, nor is it needful that we should. The coming of Christ will be a great surprise to men. Our Lord himself said so. As the hour of death is the same to each person that the judgment will be to mankind in general, so the same remarks answer for both. Christ's coming will be terrible to the ungodly. Their destruction will overtake them while they dream of happiness, and please themselves with vain amusements. There will be no means to escape the terror or the punishment of that day. This day will be a happy day to the righteous. They are not in darkness; they are the children of the light. It is the happy condition of all true Christians. But how many are speaking peace and safety to themselves, over whose heads utter destruction is hovering! Let us endeavour to awaken ourselves and each other, and guard against our spiritual enemies.

Luke 21:34 "Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you suddenly like a trap.

1 Corinthians 1:8 He will also keep you firm to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Thessalonians 5:4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.

2 Thessalonians 2:2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us--whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter--asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

Revelation 3:3 Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; hold it fast, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.

Revelation 16:15 "Look, I come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remains clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed."

And, what is 'the 10 Virgins witn lamps getting bridegrooms, some are READY, some there's no time, Jesus has.come , JUST as 1 Thessalonians' 4 Scripture truth states...

13 ”Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.”

1 Cor. 15:52

On and on life goes, THEN, suddenlY!!!!! the perfect day will come for ALL who've put their life soully in Him . Gone. One here to carry on into the Great Tribulationv to be given a choice at some point, to take the mark of the beast and :( , or , THERE IS ANOTHER CHOICE!!!!!!, do not, claiming 'Jesus is Lord' and being beheaded :)
 
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My friend have you ever known God to be counterfeit. The false one cannot rise to power unless the righteous are removed. The main reason that people will look at him in awe is that he will solve the crisis of the middle east. leaders have been trying to do that since 1948. The church and the Holy Spirit that operates only through those that live in the cross must be removed. Know ye not that ye are the salt of the earth.

I have a whole essay that I been writing on this very fact. I hope to post it soon. I am not the guru of all endtime events. But I can find no one who trust in a post trib to answer my question with some sort of truth.
earlmayknowornot I will wait an address your essay. The whole 1948 thing please. You do not want to go there with me on that subject. Who do you think is bringing the strong delusion and what was Paul talking about 2thes 2;4-11 make sure you post the essay. thanks
 
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Greenice, How could He come unexpected. Seeing that by scripture once the peace agreement is signed. then we know it is 7 years.
 

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The end is nigh!
Just like people said at the end of the 1st century! And the 4th century! And the 10th century! And the 11th century! And the 14th century! And the 16th century! And the 19th century! And in 2011 and 2012!
 
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Greennice that day may very well come as a thief in the night to you. I hope you figure this out. I am not in darkness so that day will not take me as a thief in the night I know the times and seasons do you?