Abortion

I'll pray for you that you appear to hope God sends an army to destroy the country you purport to be a citizen of. Just because you hate the idea that a woman has a right to refuse to be an incubator against her will and so that sperm has more rights than she. And also that you refuse to respect the scriptures as written and imagine the God that ordered the Israelites to shed innocent blood in his name and under his command, would destroy America because our laws don't force women in this God given country to assume a higher moral standard for life than what God himself exampled in scripture toward the lives he created and took away.

I worship the God of the Bible as he is the same yesterday, today, and forever and does not change in all 66 books.
I do not reject scriptures because God is not to my liking in certain passages that do not meet the agenda I wish to push against women.

We're done here. God be with you.

I have news for you:

Old Testament Saints are those who Believed GOD would send the Messiah, and were willing to submit to HIM as LORD, meaning MASTER.

New Testament Saints are those who Believed GOD did send the Messiah, and were willing to submit to HIM as LORD, meaning MASTER.

IT IS THE SAME FAITH:

Romans 4:3 (HCSB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For what does the Scripture say? Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him for righteousness.


NEVER was the LAW intended to be part of earning one's Salvation, but rather to make one aware of how utterly sinful he or she really is and how desperately each individual NEEDS A MESSIAH (Savior). That was the purpose of the Law, and NEVER was it a way to earn part of our Salvation.

You have not shown a single verse to support your opinion that GOD does not mind a woman having an Abortion.

And I showed you that GOD said it is a Crime that should be punished life for life. And like you said, GOD DOES NOT CHANGE.

What are you talking about? ALL of your post 112, especially paragraph 2, makes the case that we should follow the decisions of our government! How can you now suggest that you said something different?

Yes, it is the same Faith, but they are two distinctly different Covenants, with two distinctly different purposes..........Law and Grace.............we are now under Grace.........

Abraham was not justified by the Law, but by Faith...........just as we are.............Mosaic Laws are far different than the Law of Faith.

And that's minute compared to what the eternal judgment on their sin looks like.

God brought 'em in, and God can take 'em out.

Does a father change when he goes from not allowing his son to drive to allowing him to drive?

Or is that the plan from the beginning?

Please quote from the U.S. Constitution the right to abort human life.

That's because you are not in agreement with God about them being innocent blood.

Wow! . . .what an evil view of child bearing.

And you resent misogyny. . .Wow! . . .just wow!

Where does God state it is innocent blood?

Speaking of the fool venting. . .

Good decision.

what i'd like to know is, why does God get to kill people and it's okay, but if WE kill, it's murder and a sin?

If we kill people, we are going against the will of God.

Because God is always just in all he does, and those he kills are not innocent according to divine justice.

It is only murder and sin if we kill the innocent.

I forgot to respond to that statement. There was NO innocent blood shed:



The Land was full of Pagans who worshiped Baal and Molech. Their religion DEMANDED regular human baby sacrifices, and so did the Hittites. I toured an ancient Hittite Temple ruins, when I was stationed in Turkey, and I noticed strange bluish 2.5 foot cubical stone. I was actually rubbing the stone, feeling the polished smoothness, when the Tour Guide told me that stone was where they laid the babies before plunging the knife in their chests to cut out their hearts. My hand came off that rock like it was suddenly electrified.

As far as I am concerned, the modern day Idol to Baal, is called "Abortion Rights"!

That looks like the Ruins that I toured but in 1969 there was a bluish cubical block in the center at that time.

Psalm 14:3 (NKJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] They have all turned aside, They have together become corrupt; There is none who does good, No, not one.

Yes i know that.. what I'm asking is, why can God "get away" with it?

God is God and His ways are higher than ours. Maybe I have some answer that will satisfy you (I hope), as I also used to be troubled by the OT...
Let us take the death of the newborns of Egypt as an example. Male firstborns who died... Jesus is also firstborn and this is emphasised in the Scriptures. This ties in together into prophecy. Basically... have God NOT done this, He would be a liar because the Word of God would be BROKEN.
This prophetic event that is "type and shadow" how we would die to selves (spiritual Egypt, the old sinful man) and get reborn as Christ. (I might not quite have it, but I know I'm onto something with that...)
Similarly, had God NOT send fire and brimstone upon Sodom, Word of God would be broken, because Sodom was type and shadow of hell.
Had He not destroyed all enemies of OT Israel (literal nation), HIS WORD WOULD BE BROKEN and He would not destroy all enemies of NT Israel either (Spiritual nation, believers) and there would be no punishment for demons. God must do all the truth according to His Word as Word of God is layered. There is literal, spiritual and other realities to it and God must be true to Himself within any of them, else He is a liar. Hope that made sense Sis...

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That was ONLY ADAM who was the only man that was not formed in the womb, but was formed out of the dust of the earth.

Try again, because GOD says HE forms life in the womb, and even knows you before He Formed you in the womb.

Luke 1:44-45 (NIV)
[SUP]44 [/SUP] As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy.
[SUP]45 [/SUP] Blessed is she who has believed that what the Lord has said to her will be accomplished!"



Ecclesiastes 11:5 (GW)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Just as you don't know how the breath of life enters the limbs of a child within its mother's womb, you also don't understand how God, who made everything, works.

Ecclesiastes 11:5 (NRSV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Just as you do not know how the breath comes to the bones in the mother's womb, so you do not know the work of God, who makes everything.

Ecclesiastes 11:5 (ESV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] As you do not know the way the spirit comes to the bones in the womb of a woman with child, so you do not know the work of God who makes everything.


Jeremiah 20:16-17 (ESV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Let that man be like the cities that the LORD overthrew without pity; let him hear a cry in the morning and an alarm at noon,
[SUP]17 [/SUP] because he did not kill me in the womb; so my mother would have been my grave, and her womb forever great.
Jeremiah 1:5 (HCSB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] I chose you before I formed you in the womb; I set you apart before you were born. I appointed you a prophet to the nations.

Hosea 12:3 (ESV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] In the womb he took his brother by the heel, and in his manhood he strove with God.

Luke 2:21 (ESV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] And at the end of eight days, when he was circumcised, he was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before he was conceived in the womb.

Psalm 127:3 (NKJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Behold, children are a heritage from the LORD, The fruit of the womb is a reward.

Isaiah 44:2 (GW)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] The LORD made you, formed you in the womb, and will help you. This is what the LORD says: Don't be afraid, my servant Jacob, Jeshurun, whom I have chosen.


NOW show me where it says the LORD IS NOT FORMING that baby in the womb.

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GOD IS ALL KNOWING, and you are not.

GOD is perfectly HOLY, and you are not.

GOD is perfectly JUST, and you are not.

GOD, is the Creator, and you are not.

GOD, can see the motives of the heart, and you cannot.

GOD is Sovereign, and you are not.

The problem is you want to be like GOD, and NEVER WILL BE.

That what why Eve fell for Satan's lie, because she wanted to be like GOD.

People who ask that question, most likely do not have GOD in their hearts, nor His Holy Spirit.

God's examples of those HE caused to be killed were to show is what ALL OF US DESERVE for one sin.

The question remains, WHY HAS NOT GOD KILLED BOTH YOU AND ME?

Psalm 53:3 (HCSB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] All have turned away; all alike have become corrupt. There is no one who does good, not even one.

Jeremiah 4:22 (HCSB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] “For My people are fools; they do not know Me. They are foolish children, without understanding. They are skilled in doing what is evil, but they do not know how to do what is good.”

Romans 3:11-12 (ASV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] There is none that understandeth, There is none that seeketh after God;
[SUP]12 [/SUP] They have all turned aside, they are together become unprofitable; There is none that doeth good, no, not, so much as one:

Isaiah 53:6 (HCSB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] We all went astray like sheep; we all have turned to our own way; and the LORD has punished Him for the iniquity of us all.

Genesis 6:5-8 (HCSB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] When the LORD saw that man’s wickedness was widespread on the earth and that every scheme his mind thought of was nothing but evil all the time,
[SUP]6 [/SUP] the LORD regretted that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] Then the LORD said, “I will wipe off from the face of the earth mankind, whom I created, together with the animals, creatures that crawl, and birds of the sky—for I regret that I made them.”
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Noah, however, found favor in the sight of the LORD.

James 2:10 (NIV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Isaiah 46:9-10 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Remember what happened long ago, for I am God, and there is no other; ⌊I am⌋ God, and no one is like Me.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] I declare the end from the beginning, and from long ago what is not yet done, saying: My plan will take place, and I will do all My will.


To question GOD's plan, is the same as saying, "I am smarter than you GOD, and I have a better plan."

Luke 10:25-28 (HCSB)
[SUP]25 [/SUP] Just then an expert in the law stood up to test Him, saying, “Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
[SUP]26 [/SUP] “What is written in the law?” He asked him. “How do you read it?”
[SUP]27 [/SUP] He answered: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] “You’ve answered correctly,” He told him. “Do this and you will live.”

MY TURN TO ASK A QUESTION.

How is questioning GOD's Authority and Sovereignty, the same as LOVING GOD?

Had Pharaoh relented the first born would not have died.Sin is what caused the death.Pharaoh refused to break and would not bend to Gods will.Had he given in God would not have punished the Egyptians with death.