Angels, demons and who knows?

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Blue3Falcon

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So I posted a long time ago a similar thread to this one but did not recieve the right feed back. What I want is to hear from people who have experienced something supernatural. I find it hard to find people to relate to in this area, people who can share with me their experiences. If I go to a non christian they start going on about ghosts and things I do not believe in. When I try going to christians they either think I'm crazy or can't relate because they've never had these experiences before. I know their are christians out their who are more in touch with spiritual things than others. You are the ones I want to hear from. I did meet a very fascinating missionary once who told me some of the scary stories from Africa where him and his family had been for the last 12 years. It felt so good to hear from someone who had experienced things that are beyond this world. Also my old youth pastor had been attacked while sleeping once, his wife told me the story of how she couldn't do anything to help him. So please, no replies about ghosts, no criticism, just reply honestly if you too (or if you know someone) have stories about spiritual things.
 
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Duckies

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Hi Theres :)

All i can say is if you are experiencing these things, i pray for you and I am terribly sorry, i cannot count the amount of times i have come across this stuff, and even as a Kid mom...having to come up and get me as something was running in the house and was in my bedroom, that is just one of my many stories.

If you are not experiencing these issues and are just curious about this, i strongly suggest that you do not poke the bear in this area, such fascination can destroy you. This is incredibly hard to deal with and one of the things that this always reminded me was that there was a God that exists and that there are things out there that Do Not Sleep :( and are beyond us humans.
 
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Relena7

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My mom's best friend has experienced many supernatural things. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share them, because they aren't really my stories to tell, but they have happened.
She is a strong Christian though, and the evil kind of supernatural things do not bother her that I know of. Her experiences were either positive or informative. Some of them were miracles and healings sent from God.

I agree with the above poster about not messing around with curiosity of evil spirits and stuff. ^ Be careful or you could end up accidentally inviting something bad.
 
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Blue3Falcon

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I do experience things, and I know not to investigate in them. There are many dangerous forces out there. But I don't just have bad experiences I have many good ones that I believe are angels. I just have no one to relate too. I guess I didn't explain myself very well, but its cause I feel almost embarrased talking about it. Just from the reactions I have gotten from people.
 
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Relena7

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Well for the record, I don't think you're crazy at all. I know strange stuff happens to some people for no explainable reason. My best suggestion is to ask God about the things you're curious of. I wish I could be more help but nothing like that has ever happened to me.
 
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Duckies

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I do experience things, and I know not to investigate in them. There are many dangerous forces out there. But I don't just have bad experiences I have many good ones that I believe are angels. I just have no one to relate too. I guess I didn't explain myself very well, but its cause I feel almost embarrassed talking about it. Just from the reactions I have gotten from people.
I can relate quite a bit to you with this, though the things i have seen have been far more on the bad side than the good side because of the frequent attacks that these things do when you are doing good with God.

Do not feel embarrassed, and if you do feel free to msg me, trust me i know how hard it is for people to understand the things we see and even those that believe sometimes look at us with skepticism.

Pray a lot and don't give in to fear as that opens a huge door. For us that experience these kind of things it is absolutely important to watch what do we interact with and at what level as we are more prone to these kind of events.

God Bless You and i hope you find peace :)
 
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I have plenty of my own stories. The spirits you talk of are mentioned in the Bible as the rebellious angels and the devil that were banished to the earth for a short time. They were kicked out of heaven after challenging God's Sovereignty; also questioning free will and the loyalty of God's creation. They are now known as, demons.

They are not all an exorcist story. Some just like messing with our heads and scaring us in less violent ways. They are individuals. They don't all express themselves the same way.

When I was a kid my brother and I found a cool vase in a dumpster raid and gave it to our mom as a gift. That night, my mom was awoken and saw scary figures and heard scary voices in her room. It didn't take long for her to identify them as demons and since the vase was the most recent object that we brought into home, she made a connection. She threw it off the balcony and it shattered in the ally. Then she immediately started calling on God's name, Jehovah, and praying out loud to him, using his name. She never had a problem after that.

There are many stories of demons attaching themselves to objects and people. In the Bible, there's the story of the man who came to Jesus with demons and he told them to get out of the man, and told them to jump into the pig. Of course there's more to the story and you should see what the Bible says about the demons (including the devil). For instance, they lust for beauty and sex. They are attention whores. They crave attention, so if we entertain them by spending time and showing interest in them, they will come around and become more than the passing annoyance and stumbling.

I have had experiences where they were just being obnoxious or unnerving. But also, have had friends who experienced them when they are very mean and ugly. One friend always maintained that it was a demon who caused her father to kill himself after some really crazy, supernatural, stuff had begun with him. The whole family experienced it, but it was her father, the demon was focused on. They can't kill us, but they can make us see things and think things that confuse us. It's always their mission to lead us away from worshiping God, the way God instructs us to in his word the Bible and the way Christ taught us to live.
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If you want to know more about "supernatural", read the Bible. Supernatural just means, other than fleshly spirit. A spiritual being vs. anything earthly. If we believe in God then we are aware of a realm that is not solid matter. Then we learn about that realm, what's going on there and what does it mean for us. Then we learn about demons and how to arm and defend ourselves against them and their influence.
 
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AgapeSpiritEyes

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I have had some experiences with the Lord with angels and with attacks from the enemy. I was in college i was quite bold and unaffraid to share the Lord with other students. I worked as a student in a work study program. I took a position in my dorm to monitor rules on two floors of the dorm. The floor i was on had many students involved with some occult activity. Well the students knew of my witness for the Lord i was also a competitive power lifter and bodybuilder. I put scriptures on my door one day i came back from classes, the scriptures had been burned off my door. I wrote a note to those who did such that if i was a religious person i would have taken my lifting belt(made of chains) and i would of taken them out and defended myself. But that i was not religious i was sharing with them Jesus who had radically changed me. Well they were awakend to th uncertainity of whether i would or not they ceased doing such things. The One night i left my door open then finished my rounds when i returned i came into my room shut my door and went to the window (i was on the 8th floor). When i was looking out of the window in my room, behind me was the door infront of me was the window that was open, i felt fear filling the space of the room behind me coming toward me. This fear was soo strong and real it was tangible. My soulish response was to react in fear flee out the window(8 floors up) But the Holy Spirit overwhelmed me i turned and said you are not the Holy Spirit Go in the name of Jesus, instantly the presence and fear disappeared, i began to praise and sing to the Lord. That spirit wanted me to react in fear and that reaction was to jump out the window. The Lord has given us His Holy Spirit of Omnipotent Agape that dispells fear casts it out for there is NO FEAR in Agape perfect Agape casts out ALL fear for fear only torments.
 
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Blue3Falcon

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It is such a scary topic, it's not really something I want to pursue from what I have read. Not that I wanted to experience more things mind you, but I feel like I should just ignore it all. It's just that, the part that fascinates me is when I'm at church. During worship time when I close my eyes I can feel other presences that aren't there. Sometimes I've been touched by them but mostly I just sense them. I love those moments and those are what I'm most curiouse about. I was thinking the other day about the people in the Bible who saw and spoke to angels (Mary for example). I was thinking maybe they were like me, people who were a bit more intouch with the spiritual realm then others, and that's why they were able to have the angels come to them.
 

CatHerder

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I've experienced some of these things, and am very reluctant to share with others for the reasons mentioned.

Most of these things happen while in prayer. While interceding, I've been led to pray for certain people and situations before a request has been made, or before a diagnosis of cancer. I had no beforehand knowledge that this particular struggle was going on in their lives. This seems to happen while I pray privately.

While in group prayer, I once was knocked in the side during group prayer by something vile - basically a large blunt force.
Another time, I found myself arguing with God because He wanted me to pray over someone's medical condition for complete healing. I thought it was stupid and told Him so and that this must not be coming from Him because He didn't heal that way anymore (I have no idea where that came from - I should be the least skeptical person after all this - I'm ashamed upon writing this at how faithless I can be). He won the argument, and I prayed over her and actually believed what I was saying. The Lord also had me praying for the internal organs surrounding her liver. When she went in to her next appointment, her hepatitis was in complete remission, but the doc expressed concern over the liver's surrounding organs. Go figure.

I don't pursue any of this. In fact, I was very much afraid of this. As a teen, I had a very New Age type of thinking, and my mother dabbled in some occult things while I was a teen, such as tarot cards, transcendental meditation, etc. So did I. I once had an experience through TM that was utterly demonic. Much later, as a Christian, I began to experience the above things while in prayer, but because of my background, I freaked out and stopped praying. stupid, stupid, stupid. For many years.

I eventually realized that that is what the enemy wants. Since I never went looking for an "experience" and just wanted to seek God during prayer, I realized that the prompting to pray for unrevealed needs was from Him. These things also seemed to happen at times of spiritual growth as well. I now have the attitude that if something weirdly supernatural happens, fine, if not, fine. I'm just gonna seek God and spend time with Him.

Oh, there are a few visions too...:D
 

T_Laurich

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I understand you said you do not wish for pursuit of this topic. So if you want my experience I can message you or what not. It is quite like all of these experience's. Random, supernatural, scary, and beyond earthly pain.

Just a warning on this topic empathy can take you to the brink of destruction and sympathy can drive you to the edge.
 
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kenisyes

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There are "worlds" out there that are full of such things. There is actually a "state of consciousness" (that is a scientific technical term, believe it or not) where you almost live in that spiritual world. It's part of growth for many people, although the "many" is a very small percent of the total, so you don't run across it too much. You are at a normal age to be experiencing these things. I started at about age 10, although I have some younger things I can only vaguely remember to know for certain if they are related. I was pretty much on top of understaning it by your age, as it was easier in the 1960's, as so many were curious about it, and there was lots of information. I'd be glad to correspond with you if you wish to get specific.

My wife was like that too. You are welcome to read her book, although it is not ALL like you are thinking. Real life is a mixture: http://www.kenbehrens.com/Miracles.pdf
 

maxwel

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Be sure your approach to this topic is strictly biblical.

The spiritual realm is very real, and as Christians, we're part of it whether we like it or not... and whether we understand it or not. There is a lot of bad information out there, both in pop culture, and in some Christian circles. Be sure to stick closely to information that is straight from scripture.
 

adsd

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ever since I was young ( I am 50 now) I have seen angels demons and yes human spirits. it has taken me all these years to bring it up. I had one good Christian couple who had told me many years ago that this was from Satan. so I did my best to ignore it. even though in my heart and soul I did not believe it. only recently have I prayed on it. and I now know to pray on these situations and despite what I had been told in the past, I still obeyed the angels. you would not believe much of what I have seen . my gift/job also includes dreams and visions. the visions I only recently learned to pray on. and as for demons I can honestly say I have never had fear, no I do not speak to them or acknowledge them . not that I felt I was the only one who saw these things, but I learned not to speak to Christians about it either. and refused to speak to those who made money using / or faking it for others. a geft from God should not ( I don't believe) come at a financial cost for others.
 
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danschance

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I am a bit concerned as to why you are fascinated with things that seem to be close to the occult. Many people who think they are dealing with angels, are in fact dealing with demons. Satan appears to be an angel of light.

I have experienced many things in the paranormal and the demonic. I have had demons cast out of me. I have never seen angels but I have seen what they can do. I have heard God speak to me and show me things about the bible.

What exactly are you looking for?
 
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danschance

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ever since I was young ( I am 50 now) I have seen angels demons and yes human spirits. it has taken me all these years to bring it up. I had one good Christian couple who had told me many years ago that this was from Satan. so I did my best to ignore it. even though in my heart and soul I did not believe it. only recently have I prayed on it. and I now know to pray on these situations and despite what I had been told in the past, I still obeyed the angels. you would not believe much of what I have seen . my gift/job also includes dreams and visions. the visions I only recently learned to pray on. and as for demons I can honestly say I have never had fear, no I do not speak to them or acknowledge them . not that I felt I was the only one who saw these things, but I learned not to speak to Christians about it either. and refused to speak to those who made money using / or faking it for others. a geft from God should not ( I don't believe) come at a financial cost for others.

You sound like me five or tens years ago. As a child I saw fllowting dots of light circling in my room. I saw a demon in a mirror and it even spoke to me. The closer I came to knowing God the less paranormal activity I experienced. That pattern continued my whole life. The further away I got from God, the more I would see paranormal stuff around me. I even had psychic visions but could not control them.

I had an amazing experience as a 14 yr old. I was on fire for God. I loved going to church when ever the doors were open. I sat thru two services in the morning and an evening service plus youth group. Then one day at the second service, I felt very peaceful, so peaceful I did not want to get up at the end of the service. The altar was in the center of the church of a circular church.

Then I heard a voice on the inside of me. It was calm, peaceful and loving. It said "Do you see that woman?". Directly in front of me was a middle aged Hispanic woman, crying her eyes out, tears streaming down her face and praying in a desperate manner. Then after a five or ten second pause, the voice said "Her son is in prison" and again another pause. "I am going to help her and her son, because I love her" and again there was a pause. Then the voice said "I am going to help you, because I love you."

Well years later, I slowly cooled off spiritually and badly backslid until there was not faith in me. I even called myself an atheist, but one thing never changed, I had a curiosity for the occult and paranormal. I started to watch paranormal shows and stuff like it. My psychic abilities came back and soon I was able to control them. I met a psychic lady and told her I was psychic too and she asked "Oh, what color am I wearing?". "Blue" I said and we friends from then on. She encouraged me to join the same psychic network and make extra money, but I did not want to sell out. I wanted to help people.

The more I used my psychic ability the more haunted my home began. Soon my skeptic kids were full fledged believers as they saw ghosts, felt their presence and my son was touched by one. I began having nightmares now and then too. I also noticed that I hated Christians more and more. I went to my sisters home and she always had Christians friends over for the holidays. One man, I bristled at. I hated him more than the rest even though I knew nothing about him. I had a seething anger toward him and later on he would be my pastor.

I enjoyed helping people. Even more so, I enjoyed telling them things that they had long forgoten and the wide eyed look as their jaw hit the ground. I had a very vivid dream/nightmare of a jet fighter flying low and straight but at a slight downward angle. I saw pine trees and homes. I was driving in a car with others and as the fighter hit the ground, there was a violent explosion. I felt something shoot though the windshield like a bullet and then I saw the pilot all black with soot fall in front of the car. He had a look of horror on his face. 10 days later a Blue Angel crashed in South Carolina I watched CNN and it was exactly like me dream. One man was crying as they interviewed him and he said he almost died as something shot thru his windshield.

Then one day, everything spun out of control. I did a reading for a young mother. She would have horrid black spells and as she came out of them, she would see her very young daughter in a coffin. I did the reading and as always for first timers, I told her all about her past, even the name of her childhood dog. The second time I just focused on her daughter. In a psychic sense, I viewed her organs one by one and saw no disease. Then I looked at her as a whole and suddenly I saw a demon wave his hand at me as if to motion me away. I broke off the vision and tried again. This time I saw her baby had demons in her. I told the mom to go see a priest because she had a demonic problem.

That was the end of the joy ride. My friendly spirits became viscous, angry and threatening. Twice I was all but physically attacked. Every night, I was woken up at 3 am like clock work. Once I woke up at 3 am and felt such and evil presence, I left my home and stayed at an all nite diner.

My asked for help from my psychic friends and they all suggested pouring salt around all the windows and doors. burning a bundle of sage and put some rose oil around the windows. Nothing helped. I had uncontrollable visions of scary stuff. as I closed my eyes, I would see people staring back. It got so bad I wondered about suicide but figured they would be there to meet me in the after life. Once I heard a demon speak to me and told me his name. After 2 or 3 months I decided to take my own advice and see a priest.

I drove to a near by catholic church and as I drove into the parking lot, I heard a soft fluffy female voice say "Don't do it". I broke down and cried and felt even more determined to talk to the priest. I met with a young priest he asked what was up and as I described the problem he cut me off when I told him I was a psychic. He became very angry and yelled back at me, "Don't you know what you are doing? Don't you realize the source of your abilities? I can not help you unless you stop being a psychic. If you can't stop, leave right now. What is your decision?".

So I agreed to stop and man was that ever hard. I felt like a bird who just got his wings clipped. My psychic friends asked me not to take his advice but I refused. Then I was accused of not being able to take it. LOL, I can't argue there.

I eventually found my way to a protestant deliverance ministry. The helped me out a great deal and God has been healing my inner wounds. I am back on track with God...again! I had demons cast out of me and in the process i learned how to cast demons out of others. I now hear God again speaking to me now and then. Sometimes He even shows me things in the bible.
 

adsd

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Not sure if I am doing this right. I am going to tell of something I have seen on 2 occasions . abt 1995 a friend of mine from church had dropped by. as we were talking I saw something pushing its way out of her she took a deep breath and said , I need to go I have some other people to see. I hugged her goodbye (as I knew she was nesting saying her goodbyes). she died that night of a heart attack. 2011 I was talking to my mother in law by phone. we continued for a while , when suddenly in spirit I was standing next to her. yet I knew I was on the phone. I looked at her and saw this same thing pulling out of her. then I was to myself again. she said I better go I will talk to you later. a few hours later she was in the hospital having had a heart attack. but she lived. so what I see is death, and it is as if the body is giving birth to it. when I see it, it is like if someone was pushing or trying to get through a plastic bag . so I was wondering does death live in us?? when it leaves are we set free??? I would appreciate no negative answers. simply I see things and understand what they are at the time. but yes I have a lot of learning to do. so here I am. asking for help and your wisdom. thank you .
 

adsd

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I am sorry . I am ignorant and really do not know what to call it. nothing is meant by it I am simply seeking the help or wisdom of others.. as I am seeking God again.
 

adsd

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I have never spoke to demons. I never would ask their names. I have never done readings. angels have protected me on a few occasions that I could actually see.. I have had dreams of things that came to pass. I have seen things happen as if I was there. I now pray when I see something attached to someone. or if I have a dream. the spirits I have seen on a few occasions have been even people I had not seen in yrs. right or soon after their death (that other wise I did not know happened). it is true though I have also seen others (I did not know). I wrote another example today. of a type of exp. I saw demons at a church 1 of which was a spirit of Pride attached to the pasture. I understand that Satan can show himself as an angel of light. I have seen demons that leave illness,