Gays won't bother anyone. Right?

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Kefa52

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President Obama kicked up some controversy by announcing that evangelical pastor Louie Giglio would be praying at the inauguration.
Sexual liberationists groups quickly identified Giglio, as they did Rick Warren under similar circumstances in 2009, as “anti-gay.” After a couple of days of firestorm from the Left, Giglio announced this morning that he would withdraw.

When a Sexual liberationists group can tell our government what to do. Big trouble ahead.
Link... http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/louie-giglio-and-the-new-state-church
 
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PeaceWarrior

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Google: Hegel's Dialectic. Then study out thesis, anti-thesis, and synthesis.

Then take all of that and apply it to the politcis concerning not onloy the inauguration, but the entire terms of the last 9 American Presidents.
 
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Kefa52

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When will I learn to keep my big mouth shut or learn to recognize the right time.
 
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rauleetoe

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When will I learn to keep my big mouth shut or learn to recognize the right time.
No you can speak your mind sir..I am in agreement with you..however I do think christians..and many who claim to be christians here, only focus on gay sin, and that sin which they see,and makes them uncomfortable..instead of looking all sin..all sin, be it pride..gluttony,lust..hatefull feelings towards another..is sin..and it all does the same thing, it separates us from God. I do think we as the Christ followers that we all claim to be should hate All sin, and not just 'gay and homosexual sin'..let us not deceive ourselves into thinking other sins are better..its all bad and all sin in God's eyes.
 

Nautilus

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hilariously the only reason obama chose those two pastors you mentioned was to try to appeal to conservatives...
 
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megaman125

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hilariously the only reason obama chose those two pastors you mentioned was to try to appeal to conservatives...
why do people always have to try and put a political spin on everything that a president does? Conservative is not automatically Christian, and maybe Obama is a Christian, so maybe that's why he chose those two pastors. Did those things ever cross your mind, or are you convinced that you KNOW the exact and ONLY reason Obama chose those two?
 
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SPUZIT

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Well kefa ..your raisin alot of yeast this morning.. planing on baking some bread? Come on people yes sin is sin some more visable than others, but not to fallow poor kefa here & make a grand poofah,,,,yet when some sins brought out of the closet( no-no one here would try to hide their sins, right)well when they are seen they are gonna get discused, now im gonna leave as they say while the herrings good ( or befor anyone's asks me to go) & I'll. Go willing ..... whew... to have some breakfast, I think we're Having biscuits (freshly made)& gravy.. yummy.....
 
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SPUZIT

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Did I say " herrings?" Aww man...here comes the activists...love you all..
 
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Kefa52

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Well kefa ..your raisin alot of yeast this morning.. planing on baking some bread? Come on people yes sin is sin some more visable than others, but not to fallow poor kefa here & make a grand poofah,,,,yet when some sins brought out of the closet( no-no one here would try to hide their sins, right)well when they are seen they are gonna get discused, now im gonna leave as they say while the herrings good ( or befor anyone's asks me to go) & I'll. Go willing ..... whew... to have some breakfast, I think we're Having biscuits (freshly made)& gravy.. yummy.....
Would you like some yeast for those biscuits?
 
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Kefa52

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How do I explain this. I am not concerned with "Gay" as to say so. Gay is a sin, or behavior, It is not the whole person. Do we lie, or are we liars? We are not our sin. "I have never met a mere mortal"(quoted from someone but I can't remember who)l. Everyone has the option to repent and be saved.

My problem is when Sin tells our Government "Ordained by God" what to do.
 
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Ugly

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why do people always have to try and put a political spin on everything that a president does? Conservative is not automatically Christian, and maybe Obama is a Christian, so maybe that's why he chose those two pastors. Did those things ever cross your mind, or are you convinced that you KNOW the exact and ONLY reason Obama chose those two?
Nope, because too many of his beliefs and actions counter Christianity.
 
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Kefa52

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Nope, because too many of his beliefs and actions counter Christianity.
Like what beliefs? Direct quotes please. Not some stuff you herd somewhere and decided to believe.
 
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megaman125

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Nope, because too many of his beliefs and actions counter Christianity.
Being a democrat doesn't automatically equate to being a non-Christian.
 
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Kefa52

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In his book The Audacity of Hope, Barack Obama writes:
I was not raised in a religious household. For my mother, organized religion too often dressed up closed-mindedness in the garb of piety, cruelty and oppression in the cloak of righteousness. However, in her mind, a working knowledge of the world's great religions was a necessary part of any well-rounded education. In our household the Bible, the Koran, and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology.

On Easter or Christmas Day my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.In sum, my mother viewed religion through the eyes of the anthropologist; it was a phenomenon to be treated with a suitable respect, but with a suitable detachment as well.
 
Forward.
As a child in Indonesia, Obama studied for two years at one Muslim school and then two years at a Catholic school. In both places he experienced religious indoctrination, but in neither case did the indoctrination take hold: during Quranic studies he made faces and during Catholic prayers he would look around the room. Eventually, Barack Obama abandoned this non-conformism and skepticism to be baptized as an adult in the Trinity United Church of Christ.
 
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Kefa52

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I am not sure ALL of my beliefs and actions are Christian.
 
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rauleetoe

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why do people always have to try and put a political spin on everything that a president does? Conservative is not automatically Christian, and maybe Obama is a Christian, so maybe that's why he chose those two pastors. Did those things ever cross your mind, or are you convinced that you KNOW the exact and ONLY reason Obama chose those two?

You truly believe Obama is a Christian? You ever see his track record? Does a Bible believing Christian support gay marriage and be so anti Jewish/anti semetic yet so pro muslim? Is his pastor Jeremiah Wright(or the pastor he was under for many years) teach a biblical message or is he a racist bigot anti american who uses the pulpit to spew his hate filled venom?

Look into it..do not believe me..but he is not a christian. Look at his fruit, look who he associates with..
Bush i believe was a Christian..and while Romney was not a 'christian' I would have felt more safe with him because he actually is what he says that he is, a mormon..and embraces some kind of religion..while Obama shows no signs of a sincere faith.
 
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Kefa52

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How do I explain this. I am not concerned with "Gay" as to say so. Gay is a sin, or behavior, It is not the whole person. Do we lie, or are we liars? We are not our sin. "I have never met a mere mortal"(quoted from someone but I can't remember who)l. Everyone has the option to repent and be saved.

My problem is when Sin tells our Government "Ordained by God" what to do.
Lost focus in 5 posts....lol
 
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rauleetoe

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I am not sure ALL of my beliefs and actions are Christian.

You can have consistent beliefs and actions Kefa..we all can, we just have to keep our eyes on Christ, and ask the Holy spirit to help us..next thing you know..you sin less and less, and think of God more and more..

its all about what we fix our minds on..
 
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rauleetoe

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Being a democrat doesn't automatically equate to being a non-Christian.
No but more often than not you will find many who are liberals to hate all things that are 'religous'
 
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rauleetoe

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Nope, because too many of his beliefs and actions counter Christianity.
You have to be having your head in the sand and not take notice of anything to even imply that Obama is a Christian..hello!! Look at his fruit, or lack thereof..Look at his 'pastor' if we can call him that, Jeremiah Wright is the same brand of 'christian thought' that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are..are they good reverends? Would someone who listens to this kind of message be trusted to be sincere about a real christian conversion? no..a tree is known by its fruit..