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so, tommy, you are telling 'most' of us what we already 'know' ,,,

what's your point?

please, tell us something that we 'want-desire, to hear'...?
 

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There are some hopeless people out here that don't know the same society you know. I understand and I still respect them for doing what they must.

As far as drug dealers, what makes them bad, other than violating the law? One change in legislation would make them entrepreneurs.
Im pretty sure the people of Israel know to help each other, and how to receive help.

And whats wrong with drug dealers? I know multiple people from my childhood who have died due to overdose, including a family member, and I have close loved ones who have lost their children and have been sent to prison over drugs.

Drugs are pretty awful.
 

Tommy379

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Im pretty sure the people of Israel know to help each other, and how to receive help.

And whats wrong with drug dealers? I know multiple people from my childhood who have died due to overdose, including a family member, and I have close loved ones who have lost their children and have been sent to prison over drugs.

Drugs are pretty awful.
Drugs are bad, so is prostitution. I still respect them doing what they feel like they must to live.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Drugs are bad, so is prostitution. I still respect them doing what they feel like they must to live.
Oh pffft, if you had just recently lost a loved one to a drug overdose, I have a hard time believing that youd still respect the person who sold them the drugs for providing a living for their self.
 

Tommy379

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Oh pffft, if you had just recently lost a loved one to a drug overdose, I have a hard time believing that youd still respect the person who sold them the drugs for providing a living for their self.
I have lost a loved one to narcotic addiction. The thing is my loved one wanted the dope more than life.
 

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Anyone who is carrying imputed sin will have to stand before God alone without the righteousness of Jesus Christ. We all stand alone equally as sinners until we have Jesus gift of righteousness and right standing with God.

Prostitution like any sin is a trap that entangles the person male or female. Many are forced into it. Those who are in it can't get out unless by the mercy of God they are helped and assisted in some cases to get physically lifted out. And others to have their minds changed to be free from the trap of it.

Even if the woman is doing it "by choice" she is not realizing how she is in a trap of the devil. She doesn't see what is really happening and she is harming herself mentally and physically. She may think she has no other marketing skills and has no other choice. It might be all she knows to make money.

Often there are many emotional issues involved having to do with wacky family problems. Sexual abuse is usually attached with this sort of way of making a living. It's odd how the very sexual abuse against that same child that harmed her is the very thing that causes girls to be promiscuous.


I have heart felt pity for people trapped in this. Woman being used and abused. Children being used and abused by other people. People using another person for their own lusts is disgusting. All kinds of perversions against the person's body. And to know children are being abused just bothers my mother's heart.

One of the reasons it's hard for me to believe it's legal in Israel is knowing the respect and morality Jewish people like Christian people (even in name only) have for woman and family. It's like thinking the United States would legalize prostitution here and I would have thought that would happen first before Israel would legalize it.

Personally I do have a harder time with those who use the services of prostitutes too. They are using someone else for their own sinful gratification. The internet porn business is so huge because of these people. There IS a market for this business because of these people. I have an easier time pitying the used rather than the users. Jesus saves both.

Jesus had so much pity for prostitutes and got many out of the trap. He knew the pain and emotional confusion these woman were going through. He loved them. And so should we. These are people entangled in sin not able to get out. Jesus went out of His way to meet the woman at the well. He planned the meeting. It's amazing how Jesus loves sinners. While we were yet sinners Christ died for us. (Even those addicted to porn and sex.)
 
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it's 'always about 'our-choice', no matter the circumstances...

we own , whether we want to or not, and then 'pay' for what we choose...
 

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so, tommy, you are telling 'most' of us what we already 'know' ,,,

what's your point?

please, tell us something that we 'want-desire, to hear'...?
What is it you want or desire to hear, or more appropriately, read?
 
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Yes, women who sin to make a living have my respect.
Yes, women who sin to make a living have my respect.


two halves make a whole

it is obvious you are either not connecting the dots here, or you are swimming in shallow water

stand up, be a man, say you were wrong instead of creating two pages of trying to say everyone else is wrong

not that it matters one little bit, but I respect men who admit when they are wrong

they seem hard to come by
 

Tommy379

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two halves make a whole

it is obvious you are either not connecting the dots here, or you are swimming in shallow water

stand up, be a man, say you were wrong instead of creating two pages of trying to say everyone else is wrong

not that it matters one little bit, but I respect men who admit when they are wrong

they seem hard to come by
I can have respect for anyone I want.
 
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We can sit here behind the safety of our keyboards to condemn other people, to cast commentary, and to look down our noses at either the people who work in the sex industry or the other people who are involved in it or partake of it's services. We can do that, but it does absolutely no good, and it's only going to serve to get people riled up to the point where this discussion becomes pointless. For every finger we point at others to condemn them for their actions or choices, there are three fingers on each of our hands that are curled back pointing directly at us.

The topic of the thread was about being shocked as to why there is legal prostitution in Israel. I'm still confused as to why that's a shock. Is Israel not a part of this world too? Do they not have the same problems the rest of the world does? Are they supposed to be of such a higher moral character? Folks living in Israel are people just like you and me. Putting them on a pedestal is just setting yourself up for disappointment when they don't live up to your standards.


creation itself is groaning because of the load of sin on this planet

I am groaning because of the load of fill in the blanks that passes for dialogue between so many people

I don't mean your post

forced prostitution and the taking of children as sex slaves is the real horror when it comes to a reality check

there is no respect in women betraying themselves, no respect for any man to go where many men have gone before and the entire mess is a hideous commentary on something created by God
 

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I can have respect for anyone I want.
I think compassion covers respect so I believe you when you say you have respect for anyone you want to respect. When you have compassion, it's easier to respect someone even if they are not worthy of respect. Jesus has displayed more compassion to sinners like prostitutes who were humble enough to know they are sinners than pharissees that He always rebuked.
 
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I can have respect for anyone I want.


it seems you are lacking some for yourself to make comments that we all know you want to disown

pain has its own language so I will give you a pass

however, I don't care for games or rudeness of which there is plenty to be had it seems

do you respect women taken as slaves?

wake up

it's not about how you have been hurt
 

Yeraza_Bats

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I think compassion covers respect so I believe you when you say you have respect for anyone you want to respect. When you have compassion, it's easier to respect someone even if they are not worthy of respect.
Having compassion does not mean having to have respect.

I think its sad that someone like Adolph Hitler had to make the choices he did, and follow the path he did, and I wish he would have come to Christ and repented of all he did before he died.
I by no means respect what he did, though. I would be far more happy to have seen him come to Christ, but I hate what he did.
 

Tommy379

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it seems you are lacking some for yourself to make comments that we all know you want to disown

pain has its own language so I will give you a pass

however, I don't care for games or rudeness of which there is plenty to be had it seems

do you respect women taken as slaves?

wake up

it's not about how you have been hurt
Huh? .
 

Tommy379

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Having compassion does not mean having to have respect.

I think its sad that someone like Adolph Hitler had to make the choices he did, and follow the path he did, and I wish he would have come to Christ and repented of all he did before he died.
I by no means respect what he did, though. I would be far more happy to have seen him come to Christ, but I hate what he did.
What does Hitler got to do with someone selling their self to live?

I guess the Adolf Hitler argument wins.
 

Tinkerbell725

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What does Hitler got to do with someone selling their self to live?

I guess the Adolf Hitler argument wins.
For Hitler, to kill is to live? He was insane.

Speaking of prostitutes...I know someone who works at a club as a GRO. She considers her job as a regular job that she is good at. It was all she knows and she tried working as a chambermaid at a hotel but she felt like she could not last a day and she did not come back the next day and also because the pay was not enough. She did not have a good education. She feels fulfilled in her job because she has been working their for so long and supported her poor and huge family through that job. It's the oldest profession as they say. I felt so sorry about her because her situation felt hopeless.
 

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Wow I have seen threads derailed before and can see how they got to where they landed.
This one though wow it landed on a totally different planet .
Blessings
Bill
 

Tommy379

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For Hitler, to kill is to live? He was insane.

Speaking of prostitutes...I know someone who works at a club as a GRO. She considers her job as a regular job that she is good at. It was all she knows and she tried working as a chambermaid at a hotel but she felt like she could not last a day and she did not come back the next day and also because the pay was not enough. She did not have a good education. She feels fulfilled in her job because she has been working their for so long and supported her poor and huge family through that job. It's the oldest profession as they say. I felt so sorry about her because her situation felt hopeless.
What's a GRO?