Labor Unions

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Labor Unions your thoughts?
As a Christian and a Teamster here are a few of mine.

1. They establish a system of checks and balances between labor and management.
2. Due to man's sinful nature, both corporate greed and the worker's wanting a free ride are held in check by a contract.
3. It keeps work days and hours to a reasonable length. Example 5 days instead of 7 and 8-10 hours a day instead of 12-14.
4 They keep in check favoritism. Ex. prevents an aggressive friend of the boss from getting a promotion over someone who has faithfully been working quietly for a much longer time.

I wont list the downfalls (there are) because Unions are on most Christians hit list so feel free to fire for or against
 
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kenisyes

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But the gift of God makes a way for you. I have always relied on God's plan for my life. I made out way better than if I had depended on a union.
 
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StephenH

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I worked at a grocery store that was Unionized for a year and a half. There are so many downfalls that I didn't actually join the Union, even though the union laws still governed the store. I was just part time, so therefore I didn't receive any benefits from it, hardly.

The worst in this case was that they couldn't fire anyone they needed to as they had to be written up for the exact same thing three times within a three month period..

You just have to accept them for what they are.. I'd rather work without them. Also, it governed what you made by seniority also.. If I had my position for 20 years, I'd still be making minimum wage.
 

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But the gift of God makes a way for you. I have always relied on God's plan for my life. I made out way better than if I had depended on a union.
God uses means such as farmers to provide food. My trust remains in God.
 

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I worked at a grocery store that was Unionized for a year and a half. There are so many downfalls that I didn't actually join the Union, even though the union laws still governed the store. I was just part time, so therefore I didn't receive any benefits from it, hardly.

The worst in this case was that they couldn't fire anyone they needed to as they had to be written up for the exact same thing three times within a three month period..

You just have to accept them for what they are.. I'd rather work without them. Also, it governed what you made by seniority also.. If I had my position for 20 years, I'd still be making minimum wage.
yes, weeding out the dead weight is nearly impossible and lays heavier burden on those who put in their fair share.
 
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Miri

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I have been thinking about this myself lately.

My current job is that of civil servant and it's the first one with a union.

I joined when I first started and im glad I did because you get to hear all sorts of
Information that you would otherwise not know. Also there are various perks. The
Union arranges all sorts of discounts with various places from stores to places of entertainment
etc.

Having said that there has been a fews days of strike action almost every year. The first time I
joined the strike as I was not sure of my feelings on the matter. But ever since I have
gone into work during strike days as I felt my security was with God, not a
man made organisation.

God has never let me down after making this decision and im still in work despite
the job cuts, redundancies and centralisations which have taken place despite
the strikes.

Also I kind of felt that God gave me this job and the money which comes with it and that
by going on strike would be like throwing it back in God's face.

Maybe a time will come when it will be time to move onto something else. Or who knows maybe
I will lose my job, but I would still rather trust God than put my trust in a Union.
 

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I have been thinking about this myself lately.

My current job is that of civil servant and it's the first one with a union.

I joined when I first started and im glad I did because you get to hear all sorts of
Information that you would otherwise not know. Also there are various perks. The
Union arranges all sorts of discounts with various places from stores to places of entertainment
etc.

Having said that there has been a fews days of strike action almost every year. The first time I
joined the strike as I was not sure of my feelings on the matter. But ever since I have
gone into work during strike days as I felt my security was with God, not a
man made organisation.

God has never let me down after making this decision and im still in work despite
the job cuts, redundancies and centralisations which have taken place despite
the strikes.

Also I kind of felt that God gave me this job and the money which comes with it and that
by going on strike would be like throwing it back in God's face.

Maybe a time will come when it will be time to move onto something else. Or who knows maybe
I will lose my job, but I would still rather trust God than put my trust in a Union.
I concur, despite whatever means the Lord has given us for our livilihood our ultimate trust must be the Lord. I experienced only one strike in 23 years but recently seen a cease of company contribution to the pension fund, 15% cut in hourly wages, a week of vacation taken away (from 5 down to 4), and breaks reduced by 5 minute...all sinking sand.