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Blain

The Word Weaver
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Ok so for the longest time i have not been able to read the bible, when you say read his word believe it or not inside I go Ugh... because i just cannot get myself to do it. I think its because i cannot understand it, and it doesn't speak to me. I have tried asking the holy spirit to help me, i have tried to force myself to read it but when you force yourself to do something you cannot put your heart in it. Now i want the bible to be a book i just cannot get enough of, one where i could read it two thousand times and still be just as excited to read and learn from it than before. I want to substitute coffee for the word of god. I know if i can do this i will begin to take on the very nature of Jesus. So why is this so hard for me? what do i have to do? have i not asked god enough perhaps? i simply cannot sit here and wait for the hunger to come, i need to start now.
 
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The Hunger Within!

Dig deep for the truth, and you will find it, the hunger will come, but you must come clean before God in repentance first!



What’s the Difference between someone who has Truly encountered God and your average church goers who got saved by ‘Receiving’ Jesus? It’s Simply the Difference between Answering the Hunger Within by Seeking out God and finding Him and relying on someone else to TELL you what to Believe in.



Jesus Said: Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened Mt7:7-8



Most people are satisfied with a nominal recognition of God and the false assurance that comes with attaching yourself to church where everyone has accepted a Standard Fashion of Religion they call Christian and no one challenges it. Whatever the Pastor says is Gospel and the Church itself is just a security blanket where you feel good about yourself and have fun with others. In some respects you may try to reform your behavior accordingly for appearances, but inside you remain the same: ‘Cold, Empty, Dry and Dead to God!’



What has happened to put our churches into this Present state of decay? Why can’t you find anyone anywhere who REALLY has a handle on God other than some notion of Doctrine handed down to them by tradition? Why is it that everyone who professes to be a Christian is somewhere between Dead and Lukewarm, including the pastors? Personalities aside here, I know that some forms of Christianity are more attractive than others and the teachers more charismatic and interesting. But aside from the hype and show in some churches, what is there really to sink your teeth into?



Present Day Christianity is a Joke for a reason. They haven’t become the laughing stock of hell by accident! NO! Hell has prevailed! The JOKE is WHAT they Teach as the Gospel and expect people to actually BELIEVE they are Getting Saved from something by RECEIVING Jesus! When in Reality they are doing Nothing More than joining themselves to a System of LIES that numbs their Minds to Truth. The Sad part is that MOST of them THINK they’re actually performing a great service for God’s Kingdom!



One of the BIGGEST Mistakes you can make personally, is going into this System ASSUMING you will find the Right Path to God. NOTHING they are Teaching in any of these churches has ANYTHING to do with the Bible or the Gospel of Jesus Christ. By the time these Teachers get done convincing you they know what they talking about you will be in the grips of a STRONG Delusion that is almost impossible to break free of. That’s why it’s so important for you to Make Sure you’ve had a Genuine encounter with God, have truly Repentance of your sins and been forgiven by Grace. How is that going to happen?



Of a TRUTH it’s NOT Going to happen inside a church! If you are going to inherit Eternal Life, as the Bible says and NOT some fairly tale religion based on lies, you MUST meet up with God. You must begin on the SOLID ROCK of Truth and find God on His Terms, not yours, or based on some church doctrine. If God exists and rewards those who diligently seek after Him…..YOU MUST be fully capable of doing so! Sin has NOT rendered you incapable of Obeying God or Stopping your wrong doing. The Bible CLEARLY Instructs you to Do so, the Gospel in churches says ‘Trust’ you are saved, But the Bible says PROVE your Faith by your DEEDS!



Those who begin on this Solid Ground with Christ, it’s been my experience, that they Serve and Obey God in His Word with diligent Zeal, Crave His Righteousness, Strive to DO the Right thing, and testify of heart Purity….JUST as the Scriptures confirm. A Church Convert seldom stops sinning, has no interest whatsoever in the Word of God, lest of all Obeying it. They basically know three things: ‘It’s Not of Works’, ‘No one is Perfect’, and ‘You Can’t Judge!’ Beyond that they THINK God has Saved them in their sins and that no one, including God, expects them to ever stop sinning until they die and go to heaven.



Of course there are the rare exceptions that ‘Get Saved’ and go on to a form of maturity in the church of their choice. These are the ones who usually become Pastors, Teachers, Deacons, leaders of some sort. They learn to defend their Doctrinal stance, quote scripture and ‘APPEAR’ as though understand the deeper things of God. The others look up to them and rely on their ‘knowledge’ to support the complacent standards of the church. Therefore the Myth perpetuates itself and gains creditability.

These Converts are not the lest bit concerned about Deception, or the constant Warnings in Scripture to ‘Be Not Deceived!’ They Came into the church under the Lie, it stands to reason they are NOT going to beware of the VERY thing they THINK has Saved them! That’s the beauty of this Mess. It brings them in Deceived, Keeps them in Darkness and ignorance and NEVER questions the fallacy of it all. As the Scripture says: ‘The Conscience becomes seared and the heart hardened in sin.’



The Church has a famous reputation for ‘Shooting the wounded.’ What I mean by this are those who have sincerely encounter God through Repentance and faith, had a genuine experience of Conversion, Stopped sinning and then Join themselves to a fellowship hoping to find mutual support and enlightenment. Their Conversion experience has left them wounded in spirit (Poor in spirit) Seeking God, Desiring His Truth and Righteousness and a Close, worthy Walk with Christ. The Church has NO IDEA Whatsoever what has happened to them, other than they have ‘Received’ Jesus and now show up on Sunday. The Standard fare is to Get them Adapted to the Low Standards as quickly as possible so their ‘Witness’ won’t be such a Glaring Contrast to the other church members and someone will start asking questions.



This is where you (If indeed YOU Are this person!) face the Greatest Danger of all on your Journey toward eternal life. Jesus Version of the Gospel Put it this way: Matt7:13-14, ““Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.”



The WAY is Difficult because the False Prophets Stand at the Gate Barking like Dogs to Keep you away! The VERY NEXT thing He Says is a WARNING! “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves!” Mt7:15



WHO are these False Prophets or Savage wolves, but the Religious System that REJECTED Jesus to begin with? They APPEAR as Lambs! NEVER forgot that! Of Course they are 100% Convinced they are RIGHT and Truly Following God….(every religious system since Christ thought the Same thing!) Naturally they can quote Scripture, answer all your objections, even LOOK like the Real thing! But I’m trying to give you a Heads up here. DON’T Go into this Mess BLIND, Assuming you’ve found God’s people!!! You will be sitting yourself up for a FALL. Truth and Error Cannot Mix! Darkness and Light cannot abide together!



As a young Convert, you face the Greatest peril of all. You’re ONLY Hope is to NEVER allow that Hunger inside you for God to waver or grow cold. It’s your Life Line to eternity! You are in the System, among the DEAD and Dying, under the influence of the Lie. You’re a Sheep among wolves! I know this is a Heavy Responsibility at the outset and much of it seems Radical to you, unnecessary, over the edge. But if you want to Avoid the common mistakes that could indeed prove fatal to your soul, Take it with a grain of salt and HEED the Warning. Others have been there before you! Profit from the Voice of Experience.



Let the Condition of the Church Converts be a Constant reminder to you what you’re engaged in. Never concede to their Standards or resign yourself to the ‘Receive Jesus’ Message. You may not be able to silence all their arguments or answer all their objections, but Truth will always prevail if you don’t compromise with sin. Remember you’re Different precisely because you responded to God on His Terms and DIDN’T Get Saved inside a church! If you are a Church Convert NONE of this will matter to you anyway. Chances are you came from a Church Family, with a long line of folks who all ‘Got Saved’ in similar manner and have been ‘Praying’ for you to do the same thing.



You were already under the influence of the Lie BEFORE your supposed Conversion, so there’s not going to be any huge change in your desires or behavior after you do come to Christ. The added dimension will be now you THINK you’re Saved, like all the others, and attend church more often. But inside you are just as cold and dead to God as anyone, secretly hoping that these occasional nut bags that come along ‘Filled with the Spirit’ or ‘On Fire for God!’ are really the Deceived ones trying to break up the church.



Read Matt10, when the Lord Sent out His Disciples for the first time. THIS is what you can expect IF you hold to the Truth. Separation, turmoil, misunderstanding. Friends will desert you, family alienate you. At times it will be a Lonely walk and your heart will be constantly burdened for the lost and deceived that seem so impossible to reach. Prepare yourself for these things, Don’t expect to avoid them unless you give in to the Lie and become one of them! It was your Hunger for God that brought you to Real Salvation to begin with DON’T Fall into the trap that you can then Skate your Way into the Kingdom with the Dead and Lukewarm. They are in that Condition for a Reason! NEVER forget it! The BEST thing you could do is Get out of the System altogether, Study your Bible, Keep Seeking God and Learn how to Contend. I know it can be Difficult at times and if you’re alone at home, without even the support of a spouse, it’s VERY Difficult. Most people you know will think you have gone off your rocker, including your family. But Remember, ‘What don’t kill you will Make you Stronger!’ If you learn to stand alone at the outset you can get through the worst of times when the chips are down.



Basically the churches work within a Structure, using formulas restricted by time. Some Conduct altar calls during Sunday services, others do not. Some put a great emphasis on Water Baptism, Communion or foot washing. The universal Assumption is that ANYONE who Professes to ‘Believe’ in Jesus is a ‘Christian’ and is welcome under the big tent, regardless of their behavior or doctrine. NO ONE is going to expose sin, insist on any Conditions or do anything that would cause ill feeling and send someone home angry. That’s why when YOU Come along they will either have bring you down to their level or eliminate you from the fellowship. The Possibility of them being proved Wrong is too Great a Risk to let you to stick around.



You must be ready to break ties with these people at a moment’s notice. Don’t get tangled up in sentimentalities. I know some of them are nicer people than others and you really like them, but Bottom line…THEY BELIEVE the LIE! And when push comes to shove they will reject the Truth and follow the IMAGE. (they Already have! Exchanged the truth for a lie! And been given over to Delusion!) You Can’t help them when they WON’T HELP themselves!



Think about it: Will they Read their Bibles? MOST of them won’t even bring a Bible to Study Class with them. Do they have ANY Understanding of True Repentance and faith according to the Scriptures? Not a Clue! Do they CARE that Deception is everywhere and the False Teachers have the Platforms? They FLOCK to hear them! Along with attending the most popular concerts, latest hype seminars, and anything that comes down the pike they are truly in La La Land and nothing can reach them. You MUST understand that God has NOTHING to do with any of it! No Matter how touchy, feely it seems. Emotions are meaningless, people cry when they watch movies!



An Encounter with God BEGINS with the Person AMENDING the Evil of his Doings! The scriptures teach repentance comes before salvation.(2Cor.7:10) Conversion comes before forgiveness.(Mk.4:12) And repentance comes before remission.(Lk.24:27) Since the nature of a true repentance produces the STOPPING of sin. the CLEARING of wrong doing, a change of mind, inclinations, desires...so must the conduct change!...The result of a crisis conviction in the soul is a vindication and purification of heart by Christ blood through faith!(Acts15:9;1Pet.1:22;Heb.9:22 ;Eph.1:7;Col.1:14) Since sin is CHOICE, NOT NATURE it must be stopped in repentance!(Isa.55:7;2Cor.7:10-11)



NONE of this is Happening inside the Churches! They Preach a COMPLETELY Different Gospel! Your Presence among them is futile. But since Experience is always the best teacher, nothing I can say or show you will make a difference in getting you OUT of this Mess. Like everyone else, you will have to run your course and find out on your own that your effort is being wasted on the dead. I can only offer my advice based on past experiences. It’s difficult to quill the enthusiasm felt by a New Convert, whose eyes are open and heart is on fire for God. But I offer the following suggestions to any who would hear:



NEVER Compromise with the Born in Sin Message!

Stay OUT of Commentaries, Books, Study material, until you are Firmly Grounded in the Faith!

DON’T Get Caught up in the Church Hype, Music, Sports, Activities, Dinners & Think its Serving God!

Take NO Sides in the Doctrinal in-house Debates between Church goers.

PROVE and TEST Everything by Scripture BEFORE you Make your Decisions!

Don’t Support the Lie with your time, money, effort or agreement.

Be Prepared to Walk away at any time, no regrets. You Cannot Fear being alone.



The Churches are a Lost Cause and have been for Centuries. You Risk a Great Deal remaining among them. We are NOT Prophets, Sent of God to awaken them! We are Sojourners in a Strange Land. www.standingthegap.org
 
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Ariel82

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Ok so for the longest time i have not been able to read the bible, when you say read his word believe it or not inside I go Ugh... because i just cannot get myself to do it. I think its because i cannot understand it, and it doesn't speak to me. I have tried asking the holy spirit to help me, i have tried to force myself to read it but when you force yourself to do something you cannot put your heart in it. Now i want the bible to be a book i just cannot get enough of, one where i could read it two thousand times and still be just as excited to read and learn from it than before. I want to substitute coffee for the word of god. I know if i can do this i will begin to take on the very nature of Jesus. So why is this so hard for me? what do i have to do? have i not asked god enough perhaps? i simply cannot sit here and wait for the hunger to come, i need to start now.
instead of trying to read it have you tried listening to it in audio format? there are some free audio bible online. before i lost my mp3 player I would listen to at least one book/chapter of scripture a day. you can listen to the whole Bible in about a month that way.

Free Audio Bible to Download Listen or Read Online

God bless and keep you Blain :) hugs :)
 

Blain

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You know tommy i accepted the fact i would be hated and alienated long ago. I want the bible to be something i would give up everything and sell everything if i can just have my bible. Even meaning being homeless as long as I have my bible, to go and read his word and just absorb all of it. I asked god to show me his glory, to show much more of him. I said i want to know the deeper things of god. I feel with every word, every paragraph every story i would see his love, his glory, his heart. I ask for these things a about ten minutes ago and as i type this i can almost hear god say are you willing to to bear the pain it will bring? because knowing god at such a level will come at a great cost and just as Jesus was rejected and mocked and beaten so will all of us who come that close to god. if jesus were to have done all he did in this present time the same things would have happened because people do not like the light- it shows the secrets of their hearts
 
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GRA

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"Sounds very familiar..."

Regular Bible reading and study can at times be the most difficult thing in the world for us to do effectively.

Satan will do anything to limit our exposure to the Word.

"Any and every excuse will do..."

It is O.K. to invoke a self-disciplined 'push' to get you into it.

Once you get into it - you will not want to get out of it.

( This is based on my experience. )

:)
 
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Powemm

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Hi blain, you Said god shows you things right ? Look in the back of your bible , look key words up of things he is revealing to you...,let him " lead " you ... prayers
Michelle :)
 
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Jordache

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Blain, the key is to hear from God, not flip through page after page of a big book. Try this: pick one or two verses, something small and short. A beatitude, psalm 23, a few proverbs, just a few words. Read it over and over again. Read it aloud. And sit with it for a while. Don't make the goal reading... Make the goal meeting God.
 
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Powemm

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Again , look at what "He" is showing you :)
 

Blain

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Blain, the key is to hear from God, not flip through page after page of a big book. Try this: pick one or two verses, something small and short. A beatitude, psalm 23, a few proverbs, just a few words. Read it over and over again. Read it aloud. And sit with it for a while. Don't make the goal reading... Make the goal meeting God.
Well you see Jordache that is the whole reason i want his word to be everything i said- to meet him. I am reading his word not because i just want to feel that hunger but i am seeking the lord in it. I am trying to search his heart, i am offering my heart to him to be crushed by his hands and b to be remolded even more like him. I am telling him i am ready to give you my dreams and desires, my beliefs and thoughts my heart my body, i am ready to sit and listen to what you have to say and teach and show me. Oh and michelle i am also very certain the lord is going to reveal my visions and dreams in his word, I asked him to open the door for me, so that even if its just something pulling at me i would read his word. he has opened the door and i have put my first step in, i am reading his word and i don't feel like before. Before i would read and be feeling half way into it. Now i decided to begin in mark and read from there and i am reading not feeling anything inside. Like a brand new slate and i feel i have to keep reading for now to go deeper, if any of you prayed for me about this it worked! I am so excited:]
 

pickles

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Blain, any surgion before he can look at a heart to repair it, must study the whole heart first.
If the surgion just worked on a heart knowing only part, he risks messing up the sugury.
The bible is the whole heart of God, just keep reading, the whole will be seen when all is known.
For God reviels His heart by this work of faith.
Just as faith is based on what is unseen, the bible sometimes is about the unseen, revieled by God through faith as all is set upon your heart.
Keep seeking, :) for the desire in Jesus is the goal!

God bless :)
pickles
 
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kenisyes

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I prayed most of the night for this response: Blain, the Bible in a word is "Jesus". You are living the Bible. How do know that this feelng of "emergency" is not Satan trying to get you to believe that you are not close to Him? Like Powemm said, let the desire come from Him, inside you, not from any rules outside.
 
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HeIsNowHere

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Go to the Answers in Genesis website. Get a book called Begin. It has what you need to get going. You will love it.
It is designed to introduce you to the major themes of the Bible and is laid out in the format needed. Please tell me after you do this.
 

Blain

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Well ppls i have hit my first bump in the road. Now as i said yesteday i had such a wonderful time reading his word, and now i feel that same feeling inside i had about the bible before- you know that UGH feeling. Now this can mean several things, one- it could mean i overworked myself event though i did even read that much. Two, it could be god observing me to see if i am really commited to this. three it could be the devil, after all like GRA said the devil knows my weaknesses and is not afraid to use them. If three is the case i can actually imagine god saying who are you going to trust? me or these feelings inside you? what does everyone else here think?
 
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weez

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The New Living Translation of the Bible uses everyday language it might help in your daily reading of THE WORD.
 
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Powemm

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believe in what god is going to reveal "more than " what you are going to
Discover ... He's got a cracker jack if a show waiting for you .. Key words ... Love. Read everything he has to say to you about it .. In the index of your bible .. Drink only from Him.. as much as you want , for as long as you thirst .. Keep drinking from his wellspring :) the more you drink of
his
Love through His Word, the less thirsty you will be :)
Dive in!!
All the way... His well is very very
Deep... I
Promise you :)
 
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kenisyes

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I was thinking about reading a recipe book. If you love cheesecake, for example, you can taste it in your mouth when you read the recipe. If you have never tasted cheesecake, reading the recipe might give you a vague idea of what it is, and that's all. The Bible is like that. Some folks post walls of Scriptue texts, and say nothing, almost as thought they do not know the love of the Lord. Once you taste the goodness of the Lord...you get the idea.
 

Blain

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Yes ken i know exactly what you mean, you know i was in the shower just now and was talking to Jesus about him taking us home, i told him how everything else in this world seems vague and how i know where my heart lies. My heart lies with him in heaven- its there right now he is holding it until i go there. And suddenly there was such a deep sadness and pain inside my soul, not the kind of bad pain but a pain of longing. I asked myself why do i hurt so? And then i knew the answer, its because i want to go home, i miss him. As if i have known him and been with him far before i as even born. I have noticed how easy it is nowadays for me to long for me to go home
 
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kenisyes

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He hurts just as bad as you do for all the people who do not know Him, or who know Him a little and do not seek Him more. It was hard for Him to leave heaven, and He needs people here too, to make a difference. It's like any job, while you're at work, you want the day to end, to go home. We live in the Kingdom of God, and we work on earth.
 

loveme1

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Read the Old and New front to back... It is not something to be flicked through..... it unfolds from Genesis to Revelation.

There was a time i could not read it that way and believed it was a reference Book that did not follow through... i was amazed.

Once you have read it properly then it can be read in different parts of course.

Blain i was amazed at how Wonderful the Bible is.

It is worth pushing through the "i cannot" that much i say to you.