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Well then you see, ain't so different from rap music excepting that the rappers, the illustrious poets of the modern age, actually have some bearing to the truth in their verses lol.
Lol no joke on Jane Austen and Fifty Shades of Gray. I mean they're written to the same audiences for the same purposes. Just different female fantasies is all.
As for the works of the greeks, I confess I have read them up and down and all around. I've been reading the stories of the inglorious white forefathers since the 1st grade. I actually quite agree with your assessment, to which I'd add even stripping away their daemonic religion that inside their tales contains all the sins still common to the Western races even in today's time. Some things just never change.
Oh I know the librarians and the poets have much different tastes and opinions. My sister was a librarian lol. The librarians and the highly educated elite find their tastes in our works ever looking for perfection in aestheticism. The poets are so much different, living inside their poems, breathing in and out the sordid tales of people most base and common in a tragic ugly world. A cathartic people they are indeed. Oh Dante, oh Sophocles, oh Poe! I'd wager a hefty sum the elite uppercrust that loves their poems so wouldn't even look sideways at those tortured vagrants if they ran into their souls.
Yet I see and agree somewhat how their differences compliment and feed each other. How God makes the opposites attract it seems. Why does the poor rapper verse about how he wants his riches to grow? Why does the elite delight in the plight of the poor man's woes? The wealthy reader craves a base man's prose. The lowly poet takes inspiration in his muse!
Lol no joke on Jane Austen and Fifty Shades of Gray. I mean they're written to the same audiences for the same purposes. Just different female fantasies is all.
As for the works of the greeks, I confess I have read them up and down and all around. I've been reading the stories of the inglorious white forefathers since the 1st grade. I actually quite agree with your assessment, to which I'd add even stripping away their daemonic religion that inside their tales contains all the sins still common to the Western races even in today's time. Some things just never change.
Oh I know the librarians and the poets have much different tastes and opinions. My sister was a librarian lol. The librarians and the highly educated elite find their tastes in our works ever looking for perfection in aestheticism. The poets are so much different, living inside their poems, breathing in and out the sordid tales of people most base and common in a tragic ugly world. A cathartic people they are indeed. Oh Dante, oh Sophocles, oh Poe! I'd wager a hefty sum the elite uppercrust that loves their poems so wouldn't even look sideways at those tortured vagrants if they ran into their souls.
Yet I see and agree somewhat how their differences compliment and feed each other. How God makes the opposites attract it seems. Why does the poor rapper verse about how he wants his riches to grow? Why does the elite delight in the plight of the poor man's woes? The wealthy reader craves a base man's prose. The lowly poet takes inspiration in his muse!
No, writing to the flesh to stir it to perversions of passion as if to say, hey we can all do this it ain't so bad, cannot truly be compared to writing (to the female fantasy as you call it) of living to one's highest ideal of love in seeking all that is good in life. My goodness, you talk as if there is no demarcation nor difference between bondage and a purity of mind that seeks to live well above gutter level 
I hate to disagree with you, but The Old Man and the Sea was one of the most boring books I have ever read. I think it is because I am from an area that makes its living from seafood, and a family that made its living from seafood- and it was just too unbelievable to me that a poor Cuban would starve himself in order to catch one fish. Not to down Hemingway, but that is a rich man's attitude toward fishing (a sports fisherman). A commercial fisherman would not be that impractical.
I think it is because I am from an area that makes its living from seafood, and a family that made its living from seafood- and it was just too unbelievable to me that a poor Cuban would starve himself in order to catch one fish. Not to down Hemingway, but that is a rich man's attitude toward fishing (a sports fisherman). A commercial fisherman would not be that impractical.
No, writing to the flesh to stir it to perversions of passion as if to say, hey we can all do this it ain't so bad, cannot truly be compared to writing (to the female fantasy as you call it) of living to one's highest ideal of love in seeking all that is good in life. My goodness, you talk as if there is no demarcation nor difference between bondage and a purity of mind that seeks to live well above gutter level
I would not call 50 shades love though, nor any kind of seeking after one's highest ideals, and to think I did misses the point. Jane Austen observed the foibles of the human condition quite penetratingly and had a decided knack for working all shades of human folly into her characters and storylines, but there was nary a foul word in P&P and nobody undressed anyone either LOLOLOL. For the record, I did not read 50 shades. I did read a few chapters to see what all the fuss was about, but I call it trash because that is what I found it to be and I have never had a liking for writing of that sort.
I mean I have never read it either, yea, not even a word of it, so it could be or it could not be. Clearly your female curiosity took you into knowing more about Gray than me lol. I just find it a recurring peculiarity the audience is the same people.
As far as deeming a book trash or not, I have no real discrimination in the ever-changing arbitrary list of "foul words". To me a good book touches the soul. A trash book comes out of the cookie cutter, written for the sheer sake of money, written by tools.
As far as deeming a book trash or not, I have no real discrimination in the ever-changing arbitrary list of "foul words". To me a good book touches the soul. A trash book comes out of the cookie cutter, written for the sheer sake of money, written by tools.
Then 50 shades fits your definition of trash The audience of books is always readers, yes. Ha. I don't even know how I got my hands on that book, for it is not like I went looking for it. My daughter may have been given it from a friend of hers, though she would never be interested in anything like that, either. She reads very little literature actually, sadly. She was a consummate consumer of manga, though, and taught herself Japanese as a result of her love of it
The audience of books is always readers, yes. Ha. I don't even know how I got my hands on that book, for it is not like I went looking for it. My daughter may have been given it from a friend of hers, though she would never be interested in anything like that, either. She reads very little literature actually, sadly. She was a consummate consumer of manga, though, and taught herself Japanese as a result of her love of it
Then 50 shades fits your definition of trash The audience of books is always readers, yes. Ha. I don't even know how I got my hands on that book, for it is not like I went looking for it. My daughter may have been given it from a friend of hers, though she would never be interested in anything like that, either. She reads very little literature actually, sadly. She was a consummate consumer of manga, though, and taught herself Japanese as a result of her love of it
The audience of books is always readers, yes. Ha. I don't even know how I got my hands on that book, for it is not like I went looking for it. My daughter may have been given it from a friend of hers, though she would never be interested in anything like that, either. She reads very little literature actually, sadly. She was a consummate consumer of manga, though, and taught herself Japanese as a result of her love of it
As for your daughter, yes that's very common for both girls and guys alike of my generation, though I'd think your daughter be older than me. As for me I've always been the ugly duckling of my generation of swans. Though I never got too far into anime and manga, I do have a particular fondness for the Japanese language in music, it is quite beautiful. I also like their history, though its as bloody and perverse as Japheth's children's macabre tales. Such a shame that just like the ancient whites the Asians are largely daemon worshippers, Japan notably of Shem's brood.
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Smutty romance novels? And that is how you see the literature of Jane Austen? Truly you surprise me, and we shall never see eye to eye if that is the case. Oh, yes, someone could give you a stinking foul dish of rot and putrescence to eat for your supper, but that does not mean you would consume it nor even have ever thought to wish for such a foul dish to sit on your table for your sustenance. My daughter despises trash, and reads but little, whereas I have a great appetite for well written well told stories, with humanity well represented underbelly and all, but certainly replete with redeeming qualities; I will even read a bit of the trash occasionally to satisfy myself that it really is trash. I do know the difference. It is not that trash appeals to me, Gosh. I could barely stand to read the one book of Danielle Steel's that was lent to me. I forced myself to in order not to insult my friend, who had lent it to me, just as I had lent her the last book I had read at the time.
Lol never heard of Danielle Steele, but I can only guess lol, and if I sweep the dust in my generalizations I'd bet my guess wouldn't be too far wrong.
As for eating putrescence, clearly you never tried my mother's cooking lol. No, just joking she has become much better with age at that craft, but for real back in the day when you're fed freezer burn and ash or you starve you will learn not to complain too much, but to find humor and insights in all things. Yea just as it is written, they gave him gall to drink!
The entire world is pretty dark and dank and full of filth, that's just a fact. We'll find that out surely in 1984. As far as fictions are false, this paradigm they can never escape. That's why of all books I have read high and low, ancient and modern, The Bible comes out on top clearly. It is very cathartic, but it is nevertheless true.
As for eating putrescence, clearly you never tried my mother's cooking lol. No, just joking she has become much better with age at that craft, but for real back in the day when you're fed freezer burn and ash or you starve you will learn not to complain too much, but to find humor and insights in all things. Yea just as it is written, they gave him gall to drink!
The entire world is pretty dark and dank and full of filth, that's just a fact. We'll find that out surely in 1984. As far as fictions are false, this paradigm they can never escape. That's why of all books I have read high and low, ancient and modern, The Bible comes out on top clearly. It is very cathartic, but it is nevertheless true.
PS my daughter is thirty We watched a lot of anime together When I say she reads but little, I mean books in general. She reads an incredible amount from time to time online, learning how to fix or replace something on her cell phone or computer, and fan fiction etc. She is given books from friends and they sit on the table unread. I have picked up a few over the years, reading some of the True Blood series a number of years ago, and then a couple of years ago a few chapters of the filthy shades, and last year a lovely book by Richard Wagamese called Indian Horse. I had not read anything for a while before reading that, and I found it lovely despite some of the subject matter...
We watched a lot of anime together When I say she reads but little, I mean books in general. She reads an incredible amount from time to time online, learning how to fix or replace something on her cell phone or computer, and fan fiction etc. She is given books from friends and they sit on the table unread. I have picked up a few over the years, reading some of the True Blood series a number of years ago, and then a couple of years ago a few chapters of the filthy shades, and last year a lovely book by Richard Wagamese called Indian Horse. I had not read anything for a while before reading that, and I found it lovely despite some of the subject matter... 
PS my daughter is thirty We watched a lot of anime together When I say she reads but little, I mean books in general. She reads an incredible amount from time to time online, learning how to fix or replace something on her cell phone or computer, and fan fiction etc. She is given books from friends and they sit on the table unread. I have picked up a few over the years, reading some of the True Blood series a number of years ago, and then a couple of years ago a few chapters of the filthy shades, and last year a lovely book by Richard Wagamese called Indian Horse. I had not read anything for a while before reading that, and I found it lovely despite some of the subject matter...
We watched a lot of anime together When I say she reads but little, I mean books in general. She reads an incredible amount from time to time online, learning how to fix or replace something on her cell phone or computer, and fan fiction etc. She is given books from friends and they sit on the table unread. I have picked up a few over the years, reading some of the True Blood series a number of years ago, and then a couple of years ago a few chapters of the filthy shades, and last year a lovely book by Richard Wagamese called Indian Horse. I had not read anything for a while before reading that, and I found it lovely despite some of the subject matter...
The Bible delivers the unvarnished truth of human nature, yes, we must love it for its unflinching portrayal of who we are under the thin veneer of civility and manners we have acquired and that can fall off so readily if easily provoked, and yet there is also love and idealism, and a plan that He has that includes us if we but co operate with Him, and I have come to think and to feel and to truly believe that despite some of the terrors and traumas and trials of my life that I am fortunate indeed, and have much to be grateful for despite all my failings and folly and despite all the failings and folly of others, for I comprehend the love of God and cherish it in my heart and wish to share it with others, and what greater treasure in all the world is there than that?
Oh I'd quite agree. Though as far as thin manners go, I find the masters of etiquette are some of the foulest inside. I do believe the Bible says much the same but in starker words. I agree on sharing though, and share I do with boldness. I find the people of the baser sort to be more accepting of those purely written words, but when I talk to the high browed people, behold they are repulsed! They cannot believe the words are not what they teach in church. The parable of the nobles being invited to the wedding and excusing themselves and refusing to come and all the people they hold to be the scum of the highways are invited instead with joy comes to my mind.
Yes, the King has invited all to the wedding supper of His beloved Son, and the high and mighty are too busy with their own affairs to be bothered to attend. However, we are all vagabonds until we accept the invitation. I remember as a young Christian not so many years ago thinking about the proper clothes to wear to such a feast, but of course there is only one acceptable robe
Yes, the King has invited all to the wedding supper of His beloved Son, and the high and mighty are too busy with their own affairs to be bothered to attend. However, we are all vagabonds until we accept the invitation. I remember as a young Christian not so many years ago thinking about the proper clothes to wear to such a feast, but of course there is only one acceptable robe