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ForthAngel

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Hey everyone. This is just a random topic, but I m hoping to get at least a little feedback from others. Currently I am waiting on a court date to offer a plea to the state. A little over a year ago I was in a car accident after drinking and driving. I had a friend with me and as a result of the wreck his back was broken. He bled out internally and died a week later in the hospital. I am charged with felony DUI involving death. This carries a mandatory minimum sentence of 5 years and a maximum of 25 years. It can be reduced as low as reckless homicide which carries a mandatory minimum sentence of 1 year up to a max of 10. It may not even be reduced as low as reckless homicide, if it gets reduced at all. There is no reason for a jury trial if the plea is refused because the facts are cut and dry in this case.

I am terrified to say the least. I have been to jail plenty of times before, but never for more than a week or two and never was it actual prison. My question is, has anyone on here ever been in prison, and what was your experience like? All the stories I have read ( from unsaved inmates ) were not comforting at all, even when they were trying to explain how prison is not as bad as it really seems. I know I shouldn't expect them to be comforting, but some kind of reassurance that survivability is possible and I can continue to be a strong follower of Christ without inhibition in prison would be nice.. I don't expect many responses, but if anyone would like to share their experience in private messages, I would appreciate it.
 

Blain

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I pray that god the father will save his faithful servant and my friend from his enemies, i truly hope it is god's will for you to get off scott free. i do not beleive you deserve to go to jail. if everything happens for a reason and if god is in control of everything and since there is no such thing as accidents( Meaning events) Then perhaps it was your friends time to meet his savior and perhaps all this is for god's glory. I have already prayed for your safety Just as david in in psalms was chased after enemies and yet he called upon the one who always protects and saves from harm, and shaming the ones who tried to hurt david i pray the same goes for you. i know god has already forgotten what you did but now you must forgive yourself and call upon the lord to save you. I will continue to pray for your saftey
 

ForthAngel

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I pray that god the father will save his faithful servant and my friend from his enemies, i truly hope it is god's will for you to get off scott free. i do not beleive you deserve to go to jail. if everything happens for a reason and if god is in control of everything and since there is no such thing as accidents( Meaning events) Then perhaps it was your friends time to meet his savior and perhaps all this is for god's glory. I have already prayed for your safety Just as david in in psalms was chased after enemies and yet he called upon the one who always protects and saves from harm, and shaming the ones who tried to hurt david i pray the same goes for you. i know god has already forgotten what you did but now you must forgive yourself and call upon the lord to save you. I will continue to pray for your saftey
Thanks Blain for your prayers. I do not believe that I should get off scott free. I deserve the punishment given me. As a result of my actions a life was lost. This sent a shock wave through my family, and his, damaging faiths and hurting people. No, I deserve any punishment I receive. I plan on using my punishment as a time to study the bible and talk to others who are around me about Jesus. I do not deny that I deserve punishment and pray that God allows me to be judged accordingly. The guilt alone over the past year has warped me in a way, and I just want to get my punishment so maybe I can finally let my mind rest easy.
 

Blain

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Well even though i still believe you need not pay for it it is good that if it is god's will for you to pay you are going to do his will even there, I am glad to know there are people who are faithful to god even in such a problem
 
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Hey everyone. This is just a random topic, but I m hoping to get at least a little feedback from others. Currently I am waiting on a court date to offer a plea to the state. A little over a year ago I was in a car accident after drinking and driving. I had a friend with me and as a result of the wreck his back was broken. He bled out internally and died a week later in the hospital. I am charged with felony DUI involving death. This carries a mandatory minimum sentence of 5 years and a maximum of 25 years. It can be reduced as low as reckless homicide which carries a mandatory minimum sentence of 1 year up to a max of 10. It may not even be reduced as low as reckless homicide, if it gets reduced at all. There is no reason for a jury trial if the plea is refused because the facts are cut and dry in this case.

I am terrified to say the least. I have been to jail plenty of times before, but never for more than a week or two and never was it actual prison. My question is, has anyone on here ever been in prison, and what was your experience like? All the stories I have read ( from unsaved inmates ) were not comforting at all, even when they were trying to explain how prison is not as bad as it really seems. I know I shouldn't expect them to be comforting, but some kind of reassurance that survivability is possible and I can continue to be a strong follower of Christ without inhibition in prison would be nice.. I don't expect many responses, but if anyone would like to share their experience in private messages, I would appreciate it.
The greatest prison you will experience here in this life, is walking outside of the will of God! You didnt mention your faith, or if you think you are or were saved, but I dont mean to be harsh with you, but you seem to have never repented of your crimes against God, yes there is great forgiveness as long as you seek repentance for your crimes.

But unless you repent and crucify your flesh with Christ, you wont be able to see the real prison you are IN!

Yes what you did deserves just punishment,as the word says, the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life that comes from real repentance and faith, not the fake repentance and faith that leaves you still in bondage to sin, and looking for loopholes to get a lighter sentance, what happened to you is over. You mentioned you have been in prison before, and we all dererve prison for our chosen crimes against God, some went to real prison, some are still in bondage and have not been caught by the police yet, but here is the real delema, GOD sees all, and His mighty hand of judgement is upon the children of disobedience!

There is no escape for the un repentant sinner, weather they go to prison or not, sins of the flesh lead to spiritual death, and spending a few years in prison is way better than spending eternity in hell!

So I would encourage yo to get right with God, stop worrying about what prison will be like, seek HIm with a true repentant heart, first, then you will pay for your crimes, and what happened to you while drunk is a decision you made, and as you can see the wages of it!

Crucify your flesh with Christ, walk in newness of life, seek His great mercy while you still can, do your sentance, get hot for God and the truth, then bring this truth to those in the prison who are in the same boat as you, but still defiled, unsaved, and following the lie, that says you can sin and not die!

I will be praying for you, dont give up, take that step towards God in repentance from all your sins, and He will lift you up, even if you have to spend the rest of your life in prison, this is small in comparison to eternity seperated from God!


Who can tell if God will turn, and forgive:




Jon 3:9 Who can tell if God will turn, and forgive: and will turn away from his fierce anger, and we shall not perish?
Jon 3:10 And God saw their works, that they were turned from their evil way: and God had mercy with regard to the evil which He had said that he would do to them, and He did it not.

Most know the powerful story of repentance and faith proven by deeds, explained in great detail in Jonah CH 3. Many who teach the false gospel today will say either repentance isn't mandatory to receive mercy and salvation, or that it is necessary, but comes sometime later, after one accepts Jesus as their savior.
They will also say that Jonah was Old Testament, and that all has changed for the New Testament Christian, but is this so? Can you bank all your hopes and dreams on this premise?
Jesus has something to say about this:
Mat 12:41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it, because they repented at the proclaiming of Jonah,(truth) and behold, One greater than Jonah is here. (Jesus)!
Basically Jesus is making it perfectly clear what He meant by repentance, and in no way did he say you could continue in unrepentant sin and enter the kingdom, as most liberal churches teach today!! He also makes a very profound statement, saying there is one greater than Jonah here, and it is God(Jesus), so the word's from His mouth still apply to us, and to an even greater power, as to what He meant when He said in Luke 13-3, repent or perish!
So as it stands, Jonah preached the word of God to the city of Nineveh, they yielded to it, from the convicting power of the spirit of God, which comes to convict the world of sin, righteousness and judgment,
Joh 16:8 And when that One comes, He will convict the world concerning sin, and concerning righteousness, and concerning judgment.
Joh 16:9 Concerning sin, because they do not believe on Me;
Joh 16:10 concerning righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;
Joh 16:11 concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
The whole city by their own free will and ability chose to obey from the heart as they were convicted, seeking the mercy of God, by first repenting of all their vile sins, they came before the mercy seat, broken, humiliated, and humbled, as God granted them the privilege of repentance, that prepared their hearts to receive His great mercy.
But their repentance had to be real, and from the heart, none of this confess, trust and believe Jesus did it all for me false message, but just the opposite, where real repentance and faith is proven by deeds, which was the great remorse and sorrow Nineveh displayed as they fasted, put on sackcloth and ashes, and sought the mercy of God for all their vile sins!
God grants repentance, God grants mercy, God is the author and finisher of our salvation, but we have our part to do in all of this, and He implores us to run the race with diligence and forbearance, to hold fast, to work out OUR own salvation with fear and trembling, less we become shipwrecked in our faith!
Thus getting to the end, and thinking Jesus finished the race for us, as most teach today! He finished the race as an example for us to follow, He didn't do it for us in any way, shape or form, BUT gives us all we need IN Him to run the race, endure to the end, and overcome sin, temptation, and the snares of the evil one! He did it, we can do it, or choose not to, live a complacent lukewarm life on the fringe, and hope to slide in under the wire banking on a provision that your false teacher told you happened when you accepted Jesus into your heart many years ago!
Folks, this is dead faith (the faith of demons) and will not add up to anything at the judgment!
2Ti 2:25 in meekness instructing those who oppose, if perhaps God will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth,
2Ti 2:26 and that they awake out of the snare of the Devil, having been taken captive by him, so as to do the will of that one.
The message is clear, coming from above, we are commanded to repent, seek the mercy of God and hope and pray He relents and grants us pardon and forgiveness of sins as the whole city of Nineveh did!
America needs to heed this warning and repent as the city of Nineveh, from the president down to the lowly:
Eze 33:11 Say to them: As I live, says the Lord GOD, I have no delight in the death of the wicked, except in the turning of the wicked from his way, and so to live. Turn, turn from your evil ways; for why will you die, O house of Israel?
Tommy 7-18-12
 

Blain

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The greatest prison you will experience here in this life, is walking outside of the will of God! You didnt mention your faith, or if you think you are or were saved, but I dont mean to be harsh with you, but you seem to have never repented of your crimes against God, yes there is great forgiveness as long as you seek repentance for your crimes.

But unless you repent and crucify your flesh with Christ, you wont be able to see the real prison you are IN!

Yes what you did deserves just punishment,as the word says, the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life that comes from real repentance and faith, not the fake repentance and faith that leaves you still in bondage to sin, and looking for loopholes to get a lighter sentance, what happened to you is over. You mentioned you have been in prison before, and we all dererve prison for our chosen crimes against God, some went to real prison, some are still in bondage and have not been caught by the police yet, but here is the real delema, GOD sees all, and His mighty hand of judgement is upon the children of disobedience!

There is no escape for the un repentant sinner, weather they go to prison or not, sins of the flesh lead to spiritual death, and spending a few years in prison is way better than spending eternity in hell!

So I would encourage yo to get right with God, stop worrying about what prison will be like, seek HIm with a true repentant heart, first, then you will pay for your crimes, and what happened to you while drunk is a decision you made, and as you can see the wages of it!

Crucify your flesh with Christ, walk in newness of life, seek His great mercy while you still can, do your sentance, get hot for God and the truth, then bring this truth to those in the prison who are in the same boat as you, but still defiled, unsaved, and following the lie, that says you can sin and not die!

I will be praying for you, dont give up, take that step towards God in repentance from all your sins, and He will lift you up, even if you have to spend the rest of your life in prison, this is small in comparison to eternity seperated from God!


Who can tell if God will turn, and forgive:




Jon 3:9 Who can tell if God will turn, and forgive: and will turn away from his fierce anger, and we shall not perish?
Jon 3:10 And God saw their works, that they were turned from their evil way: and God had mercy with regard to the evil which He had said that he would do to them, and He did it not.

Most know the powerful story of repentance and faith proven by deeds, explained in great detail in Jonah CH 3. Many who teach the false gospel today will say either repentance isn't mandatory to receive mercy and salvation, or that it is necessary, but comes sometime later, after one accepts Jesus as their savior.
They will also say that Jonah was Old Testament, and that all has changed for the New Testament Christian, but is this so? Can you bank all your hopes and dreams on this premise?
Jesus has something to say about this:
Mat 12:41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it, because they repented at the proclaiming of Jonah,(truth) and behold, One greater than Jonah is here. (Jesus)!
Basically Jesus is making it perfectly clear what He meant by repentance, and in no way did he say you could continue in unrepentant sin and enter the kingdom, as most liberal churches teach today!! He also makes a very profound statement, saying there is one greater than Jonah here, and it is God(Jesus), so the word's from His mouth still apply to us, and to an even greater power, as to what He meant when He said in Luke 13-3, repent or perish!
So as it stands, Jonah preached the word of God to the city of Nineveh, they yielded to it, from the convicting power of the spirit of God, which comes to convict the world of sin, righteousness and judgment,
Joh 16:8 And when that One comes, He will convict the world concerning sin, and concerning righteousness, and concerning judgment.
Joh 16:9 Concerning sin, because they do not believe on Me;
Joh 16:10 concerning righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;
Joh 16:11 concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
The whole city by their own free will and ability chose to obey from the heart as they were convicted, seeking the mercy of God, by first repenting of all their vile sins, they came before the mercy seat, broken, humiliated, and humbled, as God granted them the privilege of repentance, that prepared their hearts to receive His great mercy.
But their repentance had to be real, and from the heart, none of this confess, trust and believe Jesus did it all for me false message, but just the opposite, where real repentance and faith is proven by deeds, which was the great remorse and sorrow Nineveh displayed as they fasted, put on sackcloth and ashes, and sought the mercy of God for all their vile sins!
God grants repentance, God grants mercy, God is the author and finisher of our salvation, but we have our part to do in all of this, and He implores us to run the race with diligence and forbearance, to hold fast, to work out OUR own salvation with fear and trembling, less we become shipwrecked in our faith!
Thus getting to the end, and thinking Jesus finished the race for us, as most teach today! He finished the race as an example for us to follow, He didn't do it for us in any way, shape or form, BUT gives us all we need IN Him to run the race, endure to the end, and overcome sin, temptation, and the snares of the evil one! He did it, we can do it, or choose not to, live a complacent lukewarm life on the fringe, and hope to slide in under the wire banking on a provision that your false teacher told you happened when you accepted Jesus into your heart many years ago!
Folks, this is dead faith (the faith of demons) and will not add up to anything at the judgment!
2Ti 2:25 in meekness instructing those who oppose, if perhaps God will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth,
2Ti 2:26 and that they awake out of the snare of the Devil, having been taken captive by him, so as to do the will of that one.
The message is clear, coming from above, we are commanded to repent, seek the mercy of God and hope and pray He relents and grants us pardon and forgiveness of sins as the whole city of Nineveh did!
America needs to heed this warning and repent as the city of Nineveh, from the president down to the lowly:
Eze 33:11 Say to them: As I live, says the Lord GOD, I have no delight in the death of the wicked, except in the turning of the wicked from his way, and so to live. Turn, turn from your evil ways; for why will you die, O house of Israel?
Tommy 7-18-12
everyone has a weakness in their faith that does not mean their faith or repentance is false. what you are sating is false, jesus did not die on the cross so out (sins) can hang over us. my weakness is courage my stregnth is giving. I know forthangels faith to be true
 
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OFM

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nice nice nice nice nice.
 

ForthAngel

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The greatest prison you will experience here in this life, is walking outside of the will of God! You didnt mention your faith, or if you think you are or were saved, but I dont mean to be harsh with you, but you seem to have never repented of your crimes against God, yes there is great forgiveness as long as you seek repentance for your crimes.
You presume too much. I have repented. The fact that you assume I haven't with the information I provided shows that you have prejudged me without knowing me. I don't drink anymore. I have been saved. I did not write this post to confirm forgiveness from God, but to learn what I might expect as a christian in prison.

But unless you repent and crucify your flesh with Christ, you wont be able to see the real prison you are IN!
I am free from this prison thanks to Jesus who died for us. I used to call it the prison of the mind, then learned through scripture that it is slavery to sin.

Yes what you did deserves just punishment,as the word says, the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life that comes from real repentance and faith, not the fake repentance and faith that leaves you still in bondage to sin, and looking for loopholes to get a lighter sentance, what happened to you is over. You mentioned you have been in prison before, and we all dererve prison for our chosen crimes against God, some went to real prison, some are still in bondage and have not been caught by the police yet, but here is the real delema, GOD sees all, and His mighty hand of judgement is upon the children of disobedience!
I am not looking for a loophole. I put my trust in God in this situation. I never said I was looking for a loophole or a lighter sentence. What happened to me is far from over. My future is being determined by this one isolated incidence. Worrying about what prison is going to be like is in no way a sin or a fault in my faith, nor should it be used to determine my salvation or how close my walk is with God.

Crucify your flesh with Christ, walk in newness of life, seek His great mercy while you still can, do your sentance, get hot for God and the truth, then bring this truth to those in the prison who are in the same boat as you, but still defiled, unsaved, and following the lie, that says you can sin and not die!
Excellent advice. :)

I will be praying for you, dont give up, take that step towards God in repentance from all your sins, and He will lift you up, even if you have to spend the rest of your life in prison, this is small in comparison to eternity seperated from God!
Thanks for your prayers. I really appreciate it. I hope you don't think I was being too critical of your judgement. I appreciate your comment.
 

Blain

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Forth angel when things get bad reach out to the hand in the darkness that is holding you( GOD) never give up you must be strong, the lord will give you peace and will use you in whatever the outcome is. your love and faith for god is amazing and is evident in how you are relying on god for your future
 
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Angel -- I hate to hear it. The little I have spoken with you on here you seem to be very nice. I pray for you, your family and his. I pray you all find peace, strength and forgiveness. May the Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
 

chip

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ARGH!
You have my prayers.
My friends tell me that if you align yourself with the chaplain and his ministry, as fast as possible, you may get left alone by the population. Also, if you prove yourself of value to the chaplain, you just might get a reduced sentence. As my friend says.
 

ForthAngel

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ARGH!
You have my prayers.
My friends tell me that if you align yourself with the chaplain and his ministry, as fast as possible, you may get left alone by the population. Also, if you prove yourself of value to the chaplain, you just might get a reduced sentence. As my friend says.
Thanks, Chip, for your prayers and advice.
 
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hey brother in christ while it is gods will on your part im proud to say you were man enough to admit what you did and to take the punishment you will be given ; that says alot about the begining of a new life in christ ; you were once lost in your sin but god picked you up and brought you back to him ; its not about what youve done gods sees you as being obedient to him from your admitting to what youve done ; to taking your punishment ; everyone sins and whatever we do its a learning experience god forgives and i know in my heart he forgives you turn your eyes upon jesus never look back ok jesus loves you so do we always know your not alone and nobody should judge you god is the ultimite judge n jury ill keep you in prayer
 

Blain

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hey brother in christ while it is gods will on your part im proud to say you were man enough to admit what you did and to take the punishment you will be given ; that says alot about the begining of a new life in christ ; you were once lost in your sin but god picked you up and brought you back to him ; its not about what youve done gods sees you as being obedient to him from your admitting to what youve done ; to taking your punishment ; everyone sins and whatever we do its a learning experience god forgives and i know in my heart he forgives you turn your eyes upon jesus never look back ok jesus loves you so do we always know your not alone and nobody should judge you god is the ultimite judge n jury ill keep you in prayer
And so the truth was spoken as if it came from the lips of god himself
 
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Ugly

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I pray that god the father will save his faithful servant and my friend from his enemies, i truly hope it is god's will for you to get off scott free. i do not beleive you deserve to go to jail. if everything happens for a reason and if god is in control of everything and since there is no such thing as accidents( Meaning events) Then perhaps it was your friends time to meet his savior and perhaps all this is for god's glory. I have already prayed for your safety Just as david in in psalms was chased after enemies and yet he called upon the one who always protects and saves from harm, and shaming the ones who tried to hurt david i pray the same goes for you. i know god has already forgotten what you did but now you must forgive yourself and call upon the lord to save you. I will continue to pray for your saftey
How does he not deserve punishment? He broke the law, and someone was killed as a result of his actions. The bible states we are to abide by the laws of the land we live, and our laws determine he has broken the law. Being a Christian may excuse us spiritually from our sins, but does not give us a free pass on the earthly laws we live by. To say that God is in control, caused him to get drunk, then caused him to get behind the wheel of his car, with someone else, and then God caused him to get into a drunken accident to have someone killed. So God made him sin by being drunk, sin by breaking laws, sin by committing murder and so he's off the hook? That is some twisted logic and a weird take on God, that holds absolutely no biblical backing.

Sorry about your situation, Fourth, i commend you on recognizing your blame and accepting your punishment. That shows a lot of character. Hopefully God will see that and honor it and try to get some rulings to a shorter sentence.
As far as your initial question, i've not been to prison, but i have watched a lot of shows on being in prisons, following inmates around etc.. also my father spent 10-15 years as an officer in prisons. I think the biggest factor will be what level of prison you're in. Also the exact prison. Some prisons are rough, period. Some have various levels, if you can get into a low security area, then you'll likely have an easier time. Wish i could give more details, but thats about the best i can give.
 

Blain

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did i say god made him do that? god allows things to happen and it will lead up to his name being glorified, and wither or not he deserves it god will still get glory from it.
 
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flight316

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This is a tough one. Man this could have happen to any of us. There have been literally hundreds of times that i have driven drunk. Thank God that I've. Never hurt anyone. Forth people are very angry with you and want to see you punished. Ive never been to prison and pray that you don't go. Listen, you made a mistake, a horrible one. May God have mercy on you. You'll have to wear this one for the rest of your life. Seek forgiveness.
 
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did i say god made him do that? god allows things to happen and it will lead up to his name being glorified, and wither or not he deserves it god will still get glory from it.
f everything happens for a reason and if god is in control of everything and since there is no such thing as accidents


hmm... how is that 'allowing'?
 

ForthAngel

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To say God enforces complete control would be a mistake. I think Blain is in the right place, but not able to express it properly. It's true that God knows everything and is able to intercede, but does not force. To say he controls our actions would eliminate free will. Him knowing what decision I am going to make gives him the option of interceding somehow to try and sway me from that choice, or to allow it to happen to serve him in some way. This is how I look at it anyway. Ugly, Flight - thanks for your comments.
Flight you are right about people being mad at me. I was fortunate enough to have been forgiven by his parents and siblings and that gives me a little hope. And ugly, it won't be supermax or anything, but like you said, this offense is considered murder and I will be classified as such when they determine where I will be housed, so I am just hoping I am not put somewhere too brutal. I wasn't made for prison, and dunno how well I will cope with it once I am finally there. I was hoping someone else on here would come forward with experience and try and relate their experience to me from a christian perspective.