Question about leaving God

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Ariel82

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Lol I knew someone would come at me with that cancer kid thing. Truth is Ariel you don't know what its like to be me. So quit acting like its so simple and easy to deal with.
No I don't know what it's like to be you, but I do recognize when people pick up burdens God never intended them to bear, they feel depressed and discouraged because it's too heavy for them.

When you stop believing lies about yourself and God, then you will understand true freedom, beauty and love.

God does care about you. He loves you not because of what work you can do but because He loves all His children.

When you make statements like "I want to do _____ for God, but God doesn't care about me enough let me do it"

You have told two lies. 1. You do _____ for pride or to make yourself feel good or to win God's approval, not for God's glory or because you know of God's agape love. 2. God does care about you. More than the human mind can comprehend.

I am not trying to insult you. I just pray you will stop lying to yourself about God and how much you really matter to Him.

I have never said it was easy. In fact without God's grace, it's impossible to see past the lies and walk in the light.

My main point is that God will still love you even if your eyebrows never grow back in this life.
 
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PennEd

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If I decided to stop following Jesus would he throw me in hell when I die?
Does your following Jesus save you, or faith in who He is, and what He has done to and for you?

THAT'S the question you should be asking.

If it's the latter, then the former will naturally follow, even though we may go through a season of doubt by NOT following Him.

I believe all that are His will be drawn back to Him by Him.

Having said that, Not really a good plan to actively seek to leave Him.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Nope. My brother and friends might make accounts on here I don't need them seeing me talk about my problems to everyone. And I'm honestly not trying to sound rude when I say that.
Does that mean you don't talk to them about your problems?
 

blue_ladybug

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You know, South, it is when we are in the greatest pain and turmoil, that God is the closest to us. I know it may not seem that way for you now, but it's true. Just reach out for Him, He's standing right beside you. And all He wants to do is pull you close and hold you tight. :)
 

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Have you considered that your eyebrows might be God testing you? Sometimes He permits things into our lives to show us where our heart truly is.
That is 100% what I think is happening. At first when this all happened I thought they would grow back in a week or 2. Then a month passed, and another, and another.. Then I was like okay something's up. The only way I'll get healed is by God. Because at this point nature would have taken its course and my eyebrows would be back. Fast forward to the end of 2016 and its like okay God this isn't cool anymore.
 

blue_ladybug

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South, have you gone to a doctor? Maybe there's some unknown health issue going on and that's why they haven't grown back.. As far as healing, I know some will disagree, but God does NOT heal EVERY ONE. I've had epilepsy since age 5, and guess what, it's 42 years later and I'm still not healed. But I DO know why--so that I can share my testimony with others in the hopes that it helps them. :)

Now let's look at what you DO have, and stop focusing on what you don't. You have your life, your health, family, friends, you have US. :) Most importantly, YOU HAVE GOD. And isn't He more important than eyebrows?


That is 100% what I think is happening. At first when this all happened I thought they would grow back in a week or 2. Then a month passed, and another, and another.. Then I was like okay something's up. The only way I'll get healed is by God. Because at this point nature would have taken its course and my eyebrows would be back. Fast forward to the end of 2016 and its like okay God this isn't cool anymore.
 

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We're in the same boat. I struggle to even read the bible, because I get so distracted after a couple of minutes. And I certainly don't pray as often as I should. So you're not alone.. :) Oh and btw, I could've taken offense at the shave off eyebrows/person with cancer thing, but I didn't, even though I HAVE had cancer. :) But I digress.. You cannot sit around and feel sorry for yourself, South. Sure you've had hard times, we all have. Right now, one or more members here are going through cancer, and the wife of one member here just killed herself. I'm not trying to minimize your hard times, but they are nothing compared to what that member is going through right now.. I want you to read some of my testimonies, and read Blain's and TemporaryCircumstance's as well. I always use her as an example because she is only 14, but has already gone through more stuff than you or I will ever go through in the rest of our lifetimes.

Just remember this: when you have hard times and you think no one understands, take a look at Jesus. HE understands. On that cross, He felt every emotion possible and then some. He knows the pain of betrayal, the sting of murder, the agony of losing a child. And with that, He doesn't want to lose YOU. :) I hope this puts stuff into perspective for you. *hugs*
I know you've had cancer, I've read 2 or 3 of your testimonies before. *BIG HUG* :D
And my uncle died of cancer. So its not something I'd make a joke about. I wasn't trying to sound mean or anything.
 
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South_FLA

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Would you like me to tell you what I've been through in the last year and a half? Because it's alot and I'm STILL dealing with the after effects of it, and will for the rest of my life.. As far as Ariel goes, hers is just an opinion, and as you can see, we all have one..lol..
I mean you can if you want to. It already sounds worse than what I'm going through.
 
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That is 100% what I think is happening. At first when this all happened I thought they would grow back in a week or 2. Then a month passed, and another, and another.. Then I was like okay something's up. The only way I'll get healed is by God. Because at this point nature would have taken its course and my eyebrows would be back. Fast forward to the end of 2016 and its like okay God this isn't cool anymore.
If you are worried about your eyebrows, how would your faith stand up to somebody threatening to cut off your head? How cool is that? What if your children were going to be tortured unless you denounced your faith? God doesn't step in from letting our bodies get marred. This vehicle is just a loner. Death isn't a problem for God. When you sacrifice a pawn on the chess board do you care? The point of the game isn't to protect the pieces, it's to checkmate the other king. At the end of the game you reset. It's just hair, just a body, just an eye, nothing matters but the eternal soul, everything else is collateral damage. Death isn't the end of life, it's just the beginning. We are all like larva, caterpillars. Then after we "fall asleep" we will wake up to new bodies, with fantastic new abilities. The sooner this life ends the better. It would be like early retirement.
 

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No I don't know what it's like to be you, but I do recognize when people pick up burdens God never intended them to bear, they feel depressed and discouraged because it's too heavy for them.

When you stop believing lies about yourself and God, then you will understand true freedom, beauty and love.

God does care about you. He loves you not because of what work you can do but because He loves all His children.

When you make statements like "I want to do _____ for God, but God doesn't care about me enough let me do it"

You have told two lies. 1. You do _____ for pride or to make yourself feel good or to win God's approval, not for God's glory or because you know of God's agape love. 2. God does care about you. More than the human mind can comprehend.

I am not trying to insult you. I just pray you will stop lying to yourself about God and how much you really matter to Him.

I have never said it was easy. In fact without God's grace, it's impossible to see past the lies and walk in the light.

My main point is that God will still love you even if your eyebrows never grow back in this life.
I'm not lying when I say I want do ____ for God. If you think its for pride, you don't know what I'm about. I wouldn't do anything for God if it was my choice. It is what he expects of me so therefore I know I should do it. Thanks for praying for me! :rolleyes: I'm not mad at you by the way, if that's what you think. I remember a while back you commented on one of my other posts, and you were very kind to me! I remember you for being nice and I still think you are. That little squabble we had was nothing. That was like something me and my blood sister would've gotten into and laughed about afterwards.
 

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Well, most here already know anyways.. Long story short, I slipped on ice and fell on my back in late 2014. It herniated and I got sciatica in my left leg. I was in bed constantly from November 2014 to February/March of 2015, with no one here to help me. I live alone, and Tequila (my cat) was very ill at the time. She would throw up literally at least 6 or 7 times a day, as well as poop on the floor. If you've ever had sciatica, you know how excruciating it is. The pain of it is an agony that I hope no one ever feels. I couldn't stand, couldn't walk, lost the use of my left leg for awhile, and having to clean up after Tequila was an added stress on my already over-loaded body. I went to the ER 3 times, and landed in the hospital for 3 days, being given pain meds around the clock so that they could do an MRI on me. I had to have 3 steroid shots in my back which was NOT fun. I had to go to PT 3 separate times. My left leg was so weak that I couldn't even kick off a blanket over my legs at night. My ONLY relief was laying in bed on my right side, laying completely still.

Nature would call, lol. I had 2 choices, endure the agony and turn to God for the strength to get up and go to the bathroom, or stay comfortable and lay there and pee myself and the bed. Needless to say, God's strength got me up and to the bathroom in time.. lol.. It hurt like hell, literally. But with God's help, I did it. :) And today, 3 years later, my leg is still very weak and I still have debilitating problems with my back, though it's no longer herniated.. My ordeal is no worse or better than yours or anyone else's here. But somewhere, someone DOES have a worse ordeal than ours that they are going through..


I mean you can if you want to. It already sounds worse than what I'm going through.
 

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Does your following Jesus save you, or faith in who He is, and what He has done to and for you?

THAT'S the question you should be asking.

If it's the latter, then the former will naturally follow, even though we may go through a season of doubt by NOT following Him.

I believe all that are His will be drawn back to Him by Him.

Having said that, Not really a good plan to actively seek to leave Him.
Honestly, I shouldn't have made this post. Even though I did learn some things from it. This was all out of anger. I have a ton of faith in Jesus. I still talk to him everyday and I know he hears me. He proved his existence to me because I've been attacked by Satan and his demons numerous times and I always made them flee in the name of Jesus. The problem I have is that I'm starting to get impatient with this eyebrow problem because I've had it for over a year already.

I can't lie I did not start trying to obey God until summer of 2016. Even though I've had this problem since 2015. Anyway, my point is, I won't leave God because I know my life would get worse without him. I'm confident he'll heal me of this issue. I made this post out anger, not faith issues. Although, maybe in some ways it is a faith issue.
 

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Are you still doing Christian apologetics online, South_FLA?
 

Magenta

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I don't even know what those are.
Probably every tee shirt you own is a cotton polyester mix.

It was a joke. You thinking that a tattoo is sin, is from the Law. So is wearing clothing made of
more than one type of material. We aren't under the Law.
No joke! Too many people mix the covenants. Jesus instituted a NEW covenant. As Christians, that is what we are under, not any of the older covenants, which were given to a specific people in a specific time for a specific reason that is all long past.
 

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Does that mean you don't talk to them about your problems?
I have. But I'm not that kind of person where I enjoy talking about them. If they saw this post they would think I'm some kind of attention whore. Not saying talking about your problems online makes you one. But I'd like to avoid the jokes they'd give me lol.
 

blue_ladybug

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I for one am glad you made this thread. After all, you did learn some stuff from it, so it's all good. :) It's okay to be mad at God. He understands. And He knows your heart, don't worry. :)


Honestly, I shouldn't have made this post. Even though I did learn some things from it. This was all out of anger. I have a ton of faith in Jesus. I still talk to him everyday and I know he hears me. He proved his existence to me because I've been attacked by Satan and his demons numerous times and I always made them flee in the name of Jesus. The problem I have is that I'm starting to get impatient with this eyebrow problem because I've had it for over a year already.

I can't lie I did not start trying to obey God until summer of 2016. Even though I've had this problem since 2015. Anyway, my point is, I won't leave God because I know my life would get worse without him. I'm confident he'll heal me of this issue. I made this post out anger, not faith issues. Although, maybe in some ways it is a faith issue.
 
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How should I go about learning of him? I read the bible but everything just slips out of my mind. I don't study it correctly I guess.
You are young. I had a very similar problem at your age.
Everything is so new, and you have not been pushed to breaking point and beyond.

A lot of what is being talked about is situations in life and how we approach it. If one
hides away and does not engage a lot simply does not apply.

You need to get out there, accept the hurts that are in you and take risks with love
and faith. Expect to get battered and also to be blessed. Then the words will mean
something different.

Take a simple word like forgiveness. Take the person in your life you still feel bad about
really bad about. And then ask God to help you to forgive them from your heart. Start
to wonder why this is so hard and pray through it. You will start to learn a lot about yourself
and others. And this is always most of the story. It is easy to talk theory, but when it is tough
and we care, it suddenly changes.

When I was your age it was saying "I love you" to my mum who never used language like this
and hid her real emotions. Starting to be more empathetic and understanding rather than
dictatorial and believing I understood what was going on. Usually I got things very wrong.
Still have these issues, but am a lot better at setting a direction now.
 

blue_ladybug

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Take it from someone who has only a dot of patience. God is using this to teach you patience. I've had to learn patience even though I wanted it RIGHT NOW.. God says this too shall pass, and it will, eventually..


Honestly, I shouldn't have made this post. Even though I did learn some things from it. This was all out of anger. I have a ton of faith in Jesus. I still talk to him everyday and I know he hears me. He proved his existence to me because I've been attacked by Satan and his demons numerous times and I always made them flee in the name of Jesus. The problem I have is that I'm starting to get impatient with this eyebrow problem because I've had it for over a year already.

I can't lie I did not start trying to obey God until summer of 2016. Even though I've had this problem since 2015. Anyway, my point is, I won't leave God because I know my life would get worse without him. I'm confident he'll heal me of this issue. I made this post out anger, not faith issues. Although, maybe in some ways it is a faith issue.
 

blue_ladybug

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What others think of you doesn't matter. Worry about what GOD thinks of you. :)


I have. But I'm not that kind of person where I enjoy talking about them. If they saw this post they would think I'm some kind of attention whore. Not saying talking about your problems online makes you one. But I'd like to avoid the jokes they'd give me lol.
 
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How about I go over to your house and shave your eyebrows off. Let's see how you feel over a year of them not growing back! I get that you have to have patience but seriously this isn't some regular spoiled kid complaint.
I have a question for you. Is there something you could do to make yourself feel better?