Questions about faith

Dogma is absolutely questionable; the problem is inherent to how it is conceived, received, and perceived. People have "changed their beliefs" because they found "truth" in some other knowledge.

There are also other definitions and interpretations of dogma with a broader encompassment.

Dogma on the way side - what is your opinion on worldviews?

Thanks and what I meant by object of Faith is Christ, Christ is who Iok to in thankfulness and approch the throne of grace and have talks with Father, being taught truth from error(s), beiing taught to stand firm in trusting Father in all things to be able to say thankyou in all things,
James 1:2My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
that is not easy to see sometimes, when going through tragedies, but I say hold on stand firm. What if you were taken to court, Jail for something you did not do as Joseph was jailed for, and spent 13 years, was it unjust? how did that turn out? Same with Job, and many a Saint in God by beleif, Faith in God, counted to them as righteous, not of works of belief. Works defiantely came after belief, Faith. I think just do the works of Love God's type as in 1 cor 13:4-13, for only God can do this type of Love through the willing vessel, me, you, and anyone that chooses to believe (haveFaith) in God

You misunderstand what I have said and that is okay, I never said Faith saves, I said Christ does and has many a people, by then beleiving God at God's word that God is real, being the object of truth. Without God all is futile no matter what anyone does. And this is not something I hope in, I know 1 cor 13:13 shows the end of one's search to the full truth and nothing but the truth GOD is LOVE and Love goes on forever, So God goes on forever take that circle it is complete after it is completed which it is in God, therefore there is no more begining or end, it goes on forever in truth.
And all this is only determined Spiritually not physically, for what one sees as what you used is temporal of the physical, what one does not see is forever, such as the air one breaths, is forever as an example
Flesh and Spirit of God is what is at war. God is kind, flesh is ruthless. We are called to be born again of the Spirit of God by Christ's resurrection is where and how this occurs, God willing, and this willingness of God to show anyone that asks are for the ones with this below as their only motive
"Comfort God by letting God know that you would see God just to dwell in God's Presence. Not for teaching, not for material gain, not even for a message, but for God. The longing of the human heart to be loved for itself is something caught from the Great Divine Heart."

this is just what God has shown me that God just love me, and the entire world that is why he went to the cross died for us all and then came back to life for us all. We have the message of reconciliation, you are forgiven by God before anyone here was ever born, so in response maybe say to God thank You and ask for the resurrected life, because no one is saved by the death, rather the life
[h=3]Romans 5:10[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

God loves us huh...

I mean, he removed our immortality because of 2 humans that ate from a tree, which is just a myth, gives us diseases like HIV, cancer, etc, everything is slowly decaying, murder, rape, pedophiles, genocide, natural disaster, artificial disaster, abuse and i could go on forever. The world is an absolute shithole and i don't see how this god, existance is undetermined, could love us because if it was me, i would do a hell better of a job then he did.

Sorry for thi rant but i was once a christian and after i got out because if god truly loved us, he wouldn't do this to us

God is never unfair or unjust. He no more killed us or caused us to be diseased than the man in the moon. if you tell achild not to touch a hot stove but he manages to touch it anyway he suffers the pain and damage of the burn. it is a far stretch to say then that the adult maliciously burned the child. as far as faith is concerned.....some things are known with the heart....not the head......they are harder to explain but are clearly understood none the less

Faith is simply trusting the Lord to take care of us. It makes it difficult for him to do that if we don't trust him.

That doesn't mean we sit around and twiddle our fingers while he serves us. We have commandments to obey.

But the Lord WILL take care of us.

But a god who is omnipotent can go to the measures to prevent the hot stove from burnin his child. And a child is innately curious, just how "god" made them. Why isn't god unfair for not making children more aware of the hot stove or making something to prevent it?

Yes God does so deeply that while we were yet in the state that we are in, inherited to us by Flesh, born of God saw we needed to be born again back to having life not in the flesh, rather in the Spirit of God.
Man's ways of flesh has masqueraded over the truth of what God has done for us through Christ.
And I bet when you decided to be a believer the above message is what you heard and responded to, and were happy right?

Then came all the buts, you need to do this and that, you need to stay right by working and this is the way, and I bet you got so frustrated over not being good eniough and seeing the others that are fakes, using God for their own gain, you probably heard this. If God is like this do you really, believe, you see God is not this as you were decieved into thinking God was.

So you walked away thinking your experience was God,and I am here to tell you, the thoughts you recieved are a lie.
Remember the time of your first love, the rejoicing in God doing it all for you?
That is God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOD JUST LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAITING FOR YOU TO RESPOND, AND JUST CONTINUE IN THANKING HIM FOR THIS.

Do you think maybe this is what parents are for? God gave us all free willand if God was ever to take away anyone's free will, that would say to me that god does not love me, being a controlled robot this way. No people do this by manipulation acting as if good to get what they want others to respond to them by what they do, thus them becoming God over those that responbd to them, putting them in the drivers seat, so to speak.
Your proiblem I see is not with God rather with people that act as if they know God. Please discern truth here.

My problem is not with god, the problem is the questioning of his existance

Because this can't possibly be that simple, basebool. The belief that God is doing all the evil that happens on earth is incorrect. I, for one, think there's a ton more to this story that we will eventually find out. We've only been told a certain amount (I personally believe) because mankind could only comprehend so much in the past and even up until now. That's why I think making simple "well everything happens for a reason" statements, implying that God makes everything happen is such an awful mistake. If you really desire to understand, you'll have to put aside much of the stereotypical interpretations you hear from many Christians. When I read your statements, I feel you're being entirely sincere. I'm really sorry I offended you when I said you were only 17 on the other thread. I only meant to check out the forthcoming science classes. Maybe you'll see things the same way, maybe not. But anyway, that was my only point then. I am sincerely sorry that you're so angry. Your questions are entirely valid, but I believe the answers are even more valid.

Okay, cool, for me Ijust look around at all the trees, animals, lanscape, air that I breath to be enabled to live here, and just know God exists.
maybe if you take the time to read the below scripture, you might see through what Paul is saying.

[h=3]Romans 1:17-25[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]17 [/SUP]For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

there are many today doing verse 25 in the name of God, misrepresenting the truth of God just love you, and is waiting for us toreapond to God instead of others, in thankfulness and just live their lives as justly as possible, loving Mercy, and walking humbly, pretty simple, but people have made a doctrine, dogma out of the grace of God freeing us from slavery of and kin harming one another, no matter who is who. If more people would get a grip on this truth, there would be a lot less harm done to others