Science Disproves Evolution

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Ambulocetus natans - The walking whale?
That's all you got?
But if it happened long enough ago it would make it more plausible?
Billions and billions of years ago, from the primordial soup arose a bacteria that killed it's host.
- - -Yea.....I see.

- - - - - -Various bacteria and viruses were transmuting (on what, we don't know); and forming into early life forms that had eaten their host.

- - - - - - - - Now I get it........
 
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You again, strain at a knat and swallow a camel. (And I'm the dogmatic one?)
There is NO evidence that the earth's magnetic field has been declining only in the past two thousand years.
Again, you people love conjecture.
You'd make horrible detectives and/or scientists.
We have been measuring the magnetic field strength for hundreds of years now - this is so well known that college students measure and calculate the rate of decline as class assignments. This phenomenon is used by all Creation literature as part of their proof of a young Earth

  • JAMES D HAYS
Faunal Extinctions and Reversals of the Earth's Magnetic FieldGeological Society of America Bulletin, September 1971, v. 82, no. 9, p.2433-2447, doi:10.1130/0016-7606(1971)82[2433:FEAROT]2.0.CO;2

Geomagnetic Variations and the Electrical Conductivity of the Upper Mantle

  1. R. J. Banks Geophysical Journal of the Royal Astrominical Society, Vol 17, Issue 5, pages 457-487, 1969

Coe, R. S.; Prévot, M.; Camps, P. (20 April 1995). "New evidence for extraordinarily rapid change of the geomagnetic field during a reversal". Nature 374 (6524): 687[h=2]Phillips, Tony (December 29, 2003). "Earth's Inconstant Magnetic Field". Science@Nasa.[/h]Jackson, Andrew; Jonkers, Art R. T.; Walker, Matthew R. (2000). "Four centuries of Geomagnetic Secular Variation from Historical Records". Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society A 358 (1768): 957–990.
 
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I wanted proof Kringled.
Not some vague assumption.
Just post the helix of the E-Coli bacteria that you say shows evidence of evolving.
Please highlight the part you said evolved.
Fair enough?
 
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We have been measuring the magnetic field strength for hundreds of years now - this is so well known that college students measure and calculate the rate of decline as class assignments. This phenomenon is used by all Creation literature as part of their proof of a young Earth

  • JAMES D HAYS
Faunal Extinctions and Reversals of the Earth's Magnetic FieldGeological Society of America Bulletin, September 1971, v. 82, no. 9, p.2433-2447, doi:10.1130/0016-7606(1971)82[2433:FEAROT]2.0.CO;2

Geomagnetic Variations and the Electrical Conductivity of the Upper Mantle

  1. R. J. Banks Geophysical Journal of the Royal Astrominical Society, Vol 17, Issue 5, pages 457-487, 1969

Coe, R. S.; Prévot, M.; Camps, P. (20 April 1995). "New evidence for extraordinarily rapid change of the geomagnetic field during a reversal". Nature 374 (6524): 687Phillips, Tony (December 29, 2003). "Earth's Inconstant Magnetic Field". Science@Nasa.

Jackson, Andrew; Jonkers, Art R. T.; Walker, Matthew R. (2000). "Four centuries of Geomagnetic Secular Variation from Historical Records". Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society A 358 (1768): 957–990.
Yea, do you know how early the first measurement of the E-M force of the earth was?
Can you extrapolate it back,.........say four billion years?
 
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Just one transitional species.
Just one.
From equine or bovine to whatever.
Show me one.
Archaeopteryx anyone?
With all of the millions of fossils, not one transitional species?
From Synapsids to mammals:
Archaeothyris
Dimetrodron
Lycaenops
Thrinaxadon
Probainognathus
Diarthrognathus
and so on....
 
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From Synapsids to mammals:
Archaeothyris
Dimetrodron
Lycaenops
Thrinaxadon
Probainognathus
Diarthrognathus
and so on....
O.K.
Thanks Ernst Haeckel.

................I see it so much more clearly now..............

Thanks for your list of ages instead of transformational species.

...............I'll take it into consideration................
 
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Yea, do you know how early the first measurement of the E-M force of the earth was?
Can you extrapolate it back,.........say four billion years?
Why would I? - The question posed was that there was no evidence of magnetic decline - I showed there was. A declining magnetic field, in itself, does not prove or disprove that the earth is billions of years old - I never said it did. Evidence of magnetic reversal can be found within rocks by studying the trapped magnetic particles. These particles show that at different points in the earths history the field had reversed - multiple times. Those rocks are then dated using standard dating methods to determine when the reversal occurred.
 
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O.K.
Thanks Ernst Haeckel.

................I see it so much more clearly now..............

Thanks for your list of ages instead of transformational species.

...............I'll take it into consideration................
Please clarify your objection here - what do you mean list of ages? I provided a list of transitional forms from the fossil record as you asked for.
 
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Please clarify your objection here - what do you mean list of ages? I provided a list of transitional forms from the fossil record as you asked for.
No you didn't.
You replicated an unscientific and highly skeptical chart.
- Like I said,....I'll take it into consideration Ernst.
- - Maybe you could supply evidence from the embryo record along with it.
Maybe you don't understand how potassium-argon dating works.
 
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Just one transitional species.
Just one.

I have a riddle for you,
what has more information in the exact, correct order than all of the words in all of the books of the Library of Congress?
 
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Why would I? - The question posed was that there was no evidence of magnetic decline - I showed there was. A declining magnetic field, in itself, does not prove or disprove that the earth is billions of years old - I never said it did. Evidence of magnetic reversal can be found within rocks by studying the trapped magnetic particles. These particles show that at different points in the earths history the field had reversed - multiple times. Those rocks are then dated using standard dating methods to determine when the reversal occurred.
No, I pointed out there was.
I am getting tired of people switching arguments in midstream.
Reread the posts!
Get in or get out, - know your argument.

All the readers notice who brought that topic up and who prevaricated.
 
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Since I can't get a cogent argument from your side I have other things to do.

Think of something please in the duration.
 
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I wanted proof Kringled.
Not some vague assumption.
Just post the helix of the E-Coli bacteria that you say shows evidence of evolving.
Please highlight the part you said evolved.
Fair enough?
Go back a page. I already did it. However it is showing the codons with their amino acid equivalence and not their nucleotide sequences.
 
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O.K.
I see DNA called junk, (I think the GMO's would like this term).



[...The late] Dr. Susumu Ohno, writing in the Brookhaven Symposium on Biology in 1972 in the article "So Much ‘Junk DNA' in our Genome" is credited with originating the term. As anyone can read below, he tried to (mistakenly) construct a scientific argument that the human genome can not sustain more than a very limited number of "genes" and argued for "the importance of doing nothing" for the rest. Though his misnomer was doubted from the outset (see the first question after his presentation calling his arguments "suspect"), the misnomer lived for a generation, in spite of ample evidence that it was false. The reason is, that "facts don't kill theories, only theories that exceed obsolete dogma can kill old theories. "The Principle of Recursive Genome Function", heretofore the only concise interpretation how directly amino-acid-coding regions (formerly called "genes") work together with intronic and intergenic sequences, carrying much auxiliary information that is perused in fractal recursive iteration, only appeared in 2008. There may be other mathematical algorithmic theories for genome function explaining why and how "Junk DNA" is anything but "Junk" - this author will be pleased to list them - Pellionisz_at_JunkDNA.com
 
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Oh No! Ohno's Sex Chromosome Theory Rejected?

Posted by Alex Berezow at Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:20:37

The longstanding hypothesis about the evolution of sex chromosomes has just been shaken by a new paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Female mammals possess two X chromosomes (XX) and males possess one X and one Y chromosome (XY). Compared to the X chromosome, the Y chromosome is small and degraded, which (in general) means that males only have one copy of every X-linked gene. Obviously, it follows that females have two copies of every X-linked gene.

But, from a genetic standpoint, this can be problematic. A condition known as "haploinsufficiency" occurs when one gene is not sufficient for an organism to be healthy. Because genes ultimately produce proteins, having only one copy of a gene may result in a cell producing only half the expected amount of protein. Since the X chromosome contains around 2,000 genes, this means that males face a potential shortage of some 2,000 proteins.

To address this, Susumu Ohno hypothesized in 1967 that gene expression from the X chromosome is doubled. This solves the problem for males, but it creates a brand new problem for females: They would have twice as many proteins as normal. According to Ohno, this dilemma drove evolution toward selecting females which inactivated one X chromosome. "X-inactivation," in which one X chromosome is "turned off," is a well-documented phenomenon.


For the past 40 years, Ohno's Hypothesis has been indirectly tested by comparing expression from genes on the X chromosome with genes on all the other non-sex chromosomes (called "autosomes"). Some have verified the hypothesis, while others have rejected it. Using a different methodology, the PNAS paper, which represents the latest addition to the debate, presents an enormous challenge to Ohno's Hypothesis.

The authors compared X-linked gene expression in humans and other mammals with similar genes (called "orthologs") in organisms, such as chickens, which diverged before the origin of mammalian sex chromosomes. Compared to the similar chicken genes, they found that most X-linked mammalian genes are not doubled in expression. Therefore, the authors conclude that the Ohno Hypothesis is wrong.

This also creates an evolutionary dilemma. If X chromosome gene expression never doubled as Ohno suggested, then what selected for X-inactivation in females? The origin of X-inactivation, previously understood through the lens of Ohno's Hypothesis, is now a complete mystery.

For evolutionary biologists, it might mean heading back to the drawing boards.

Source: Fangqin Lina, Ke Xinga, Jianzhi Zhangb, and Xionglei Hea. "Expression reduction in mammalian X chromosome evolution refutes Ohno's hypothesis of dosage compensation." PNAS 2012, published ahead of print July 2, 2012, doi:10.1073/pnas.1201816109

(Photo: Michael Bodega/Wikimedia Commons)
 
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Going off on a tangent there, because the "junk DNA" part of my post wasn't even part of the main point. I just gave it a brief mention to explain how the first part of the coding region was no longer part of the new coding region.

As for his mention of the trends in the mammalian X chromosome, it is also unrelated to the point of my post. But if it has been shown to not be as conserved as once thought, then that is very interesting.

But maybe you should put your focus on the main point of my post.
 
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