Suicide Rates Rise Sharply in U.S.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/03/health/suicide-rate-rises-sharply-in-us.html?_r=2&

"Suicide rates among middle-aged Americans have risen sharply in the past decade, prompting concern that a generation of baby boomers who have faced years of economic worry and easy access to prescription painkillers may be particularly vulnerable to self-inflicted harm. "

With the way things are in this nation. I am not shocked this is happening.

When people have nothing left to lose, they lose it.
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/03/health/suicide-rate-rises-sharply-in-us.html?_r=2&

"Suicide rates among middle-aged Americans have risen sharply in the past decade, prompting concern that a generation of baby boomers who have faced years of economic worry and easy access to prescription painkillers may be particularly vulnerable to self-inflicted harm. "

With the way things are in this nation. I am not shocked this is happening.

When people have nothing left to lose, they lose it.
Suicide is the ultimate act of a 'hopeless' person, I also suspect there is a direct correlation between the steady fall in a belief in a Holy God & the rise in suicides. No God, No Hope. But, we can know God is here, there, everywhere and we need not fear or be defeated. I just cannot imagine living a life without Him guiding it....utter distress!! All the more reason to spread the Good News at every oppertunity. :) God Bless, <><
 
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I know people who would say there are no jobs in America because of the new Health Care law. People are afraid to hire because of all the new expenses. i think middle aged people commit suicide because they cannot earn money to support their families. I guess getting people to kill themselves definitely reduces the overall cost of health care when these people get older.

The obvious solution is to trust God. Americans are not very good at that.
 
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Suicide is the ultimate act of a 'hopeless' person, I also suspect there is a direct correlation between the steady fall in a belief in a Holy God & the rise in suicides. No God, No Hope. But, we can know God is here, there, everywhere and we need not fear or be defeated. I just cannot imagine living a life without Him guiding it....utter distress!! All the more reason to spread the Good News at every oppertunity. :) God Bless, <><
I assure you, their is no connection between believing in God and wanting to kill yourself. In fact, after discovering God's existence it sharply increased, and increases, my tendency to believe life isn't worth living. It's a horrible thing to be a Christian. The disciples would agree. The non-believers would agree. Jesus Christ would agree. The only people left to come to this conclusion are His believers. I have no idea why. Jesus said to do what He said, or else. We've all apparently chosen or else...
 
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I assure you, their is no connection between believing in God and wanting to kill yourself. In fact, after discovering God's existence it sharply increased, and increases, my tendency to believe life isn't worth living. It's a horrible thing to be a Christian. The disciples would agree. The non-believers would agree. Jesus Christ would agree. The only people left to come to this conclusion are His believers. I have no idea why. Jesus said to do what He said, or else. We've all apparently chosen or else...
I don't agree, I don't even understand what is horrible about being a follower of Jesus. It's true you no longer live YOUR life, you live a life of faith in Jesus, but I find nothing horrible about that. Maybe you could explain what is horrible.
 
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I know people who would say there are no jobs in America because of the new Health Care law. People are afraid to hire because of all the new expenses. i think middle aged people commit suicide because they cannot earn money to support their families. I guess getting people to kill themselves definitely reduces the overall cost of health care when these people get older.

The obvious solution is to trust God. Americans are not very good at that.
well obamacare is a job killer. I am watching that in my city. 1/1/13 both markets in town cut ALL full time workers to PT.
one lady at one market had been FT for 19 years and now they have 25 hour workweeks.
At the other market you get 20 hours a week. thats it. if you are on paper to clock out at 4pm you clock out at 4pm even if you have no replacement. clocking out at 4:01pm gets you wrote up. 3 write ups and you are fired.
Now these people are looking for extra work putting even more strain on the market here. real unemployment rate is 20-30+% here. so the few jobs that may come avail. you may be fighting 50,000 people for that 1 job.
believe me I been there last job I applied I was 1 of 55,000. odds of winning the daily 4 lotto are 1:10,000 so I have better odds of hitting the daily 4 3 or 4 times before I do getting a job in this city. course I didn't get the job. sure my age had something to do with that.

I say honestly. around here if you are over 28-30 and you end up out of work good luck cause the odds are against you from finding anything else. So I can see how some people just say heck with it and off them self. When the opportunities just ain't there what do you do.
 
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And before someone jumps in with this. oh why not just go to the next town.

Well good luck with that. you are going to be going at least 40 miles away if not 80miles cause all the other smaller cities are in the same boat as mine. and with $4 a gallon gas. mandatory insurance, taxes plates ect ect. driving to the "big city" for a min wage job just does not pay.
 
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It's a good thing our God is bigger than all that. But before you ask, I don't know how He will solve it either.
 
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I don't agree, I don't even understand what is horrible about being a follower of Jesus. It's true you no longer live YOUR life, you live a life of faith in Jesus, but I find nothing horrible about that. Maybe you could explain what is horrible.
Oh with pleasure. For starters, not being allowed to murder. Farbeit from me to get angry, but killing being made equal with anger makes talking difficult. I haven't mentioned sex yet, and I don't need to. I'll look at whoever I please with the unbearable pain of failure following me around forever thanks to Jesus. Shall I go on?

Oaths? Never. Revenge? Obstinate Hate? Abolished. Deeds? Done Right. Prayer? One way. Shall I go on?

Oh that's right, if you don't do these things right, you get the biggest warning ever. Matthew 7:24-27

Rebuttle?
 
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The rebuttal is that these are all things you left behind in your old life when you took the life of faith in Jesus on. If you think life is horrible without them, then you would prefer your old life back. That is not being a follower of Jesus.

In religious terms, it sounds like you have not "repented". "Repenting" is making the choice of not wanting those things anymore. (with nothing in your bio, forgive me if I am wrong assuming that you are in fact a Christian. If you are not, of course, you never made such a choice.)

Personally, I think loving when people do not love me, is more enjoyable than murder. Look how much peace I have. And I enjoy justified anger as much as Jesus did when He overturned the tables of the sellers in the Temple. And sex with my wife was great. I think God did good when He invented it. I can thank Him for every lovely woman He made, and think how much of a blessing they are for someone else, like Anna was for me, and maybe someone will be again in the future.

Oaths give structure to my life. Walking away really is easier than revenge, which just eats away at you from the inside. Prayer is great. I mean, talking to yourself self guarantees anyone at least an audience of one person who cares what you say. With Jesus, His Father, and the Holy SPirit, plus myself, I have an audience of four. And they all talk back with some very good advice. And they usually have a project I can help with.
 
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I didn't chose to be saved, and i'd throw it back in the wastebasket if i could. I highly doubt Jesus would be disappointed. And assuming that He was then that's his problem.

It's easier to eat pain then repentance. Which makes it pointless.

You see, I can manipulate you too. I'm not surprised.
 
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Jeremyd, as a fellow human, and also a part of creation id like to say that we must undersstand that we don't belong to ourselves. You were born into this world without having a coice in the matter. God is not against you. But He knows what you don't know. Everything here has to abide by his rules. To go against Him is not wise. Try to humble yourself and seek spiritual growth it will give more insight into what is really going on.
 
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If you didn't belong then you wouldn't have spoken. I will give you credit for that. However, If you didn't know then you might not be speaking. Which you don't. You break you're fair share and will till the end. Let's see you look back and see what is broken.
 
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I didn't chose to be saved, and i'd throw it back in the wastebasket if i could. I highly doubt Jesus would be disappointed. And assuming that He was then that's his problem.

It's easier to eat pain then repentance. Which makes it pointless.

You see, I can manipulate you too. I'm not surprised.
How did you manipulate me? By asking for a rebuttal? You said what you prefer, I said what I prefer and why. Now everyone who sees the thread is free to choose, as are you. God manipulated us both to be honest, and to allow everyone a choice. And all He had to do to make it happen was to be Himself.

Jesus is disappointed. And yes, it is His problem. But He cries a lot, for a lot of people. He also knows, as I do not, if someday you will change your mind.
 
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Sometimes people are just losing faith in living, faith in God and they feel their life is unworthy, thus they tend to commit suicide. One of my relatives friend committed suicide due to his disabilities to pay up the debts. The debts he took up was his mistake for not planning very well, however I believe if he had prayed to Jesus, I am sure he would had found his way or solution for the problem. The same applies to any other suicide reasons. There's suicides cases on almost everything, namely due to sex. There's this girl in the U.S named Amanda Todd was was blackmailed by a stranger via online internet chat for sexual activities. Her case was really heart breaking, but again even though all her friends criticized her, she should just ignored them and prayed to God for a solution to that problem. Because you know, we don't live our life for someone else, we live it with the life that God has given us. God Bless :)
 
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How did you manipulate me? By asking for a rebuttal? You said what you prefer, I said what I prefer and why. Now everyone who sees the thread is free to choose, as are you. God manipulated us both to be honest, and to allow everyone a choice. And all He had to do to make it happen was to be Himself.

Jesus is disappointed. And yes, it is His problem. But He cries a lot, for a lot of people. He also knows, as I do not, if someday you will change your mind.
You seem to be confused about your words. Although the tone has changed. It doesn't change your mind. If their was a smidge of honesty to what you said, then I would have found it. However, you decided to go about it in the wrong way. Your opinion is needed. I've got your back, but you've had an over abundance.

God is done, and that's more than you can say.
 
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A christian nation would never have had Obama for a president, because we are taught in scripture that we need to pick a leader who tries to lead within the rules of the kingdom, for God is the ultimate operator of our nation.

I agree that even the suicide rate goes back to God, and how we choose to live under God. Even our born again Christians whose face light up with the joy of the Lord live a life of luke warmnest. If we didn't, there would be routines of worship we would include in our every day living. We are in NO danger of doing what the Pharasee did with ritual, of using it to be praised by men. If we include ritual, it would be in spite of what men say about it and how we would be rituculed for it.

We say the Lord's Prayer and call it daily prayer. We repeat the words in it "each day our daily bread". Some of us spend our days in constant awareness, in prayer actually, of our Lord. But few use God's rules for prayer in that constant conversation with God. We talk to Him, without listening, first. .

I started a thread, asking Christians how they started their day. Not a one started their day with some worship of God.

So it has become the norm, the goal even, to live a life without including God in the day to day things we do, even by those who live in constant awareness of God.
 
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I assure you, their is no connection between believing in God and wanting to kill yourself. In fact, after discovering God's existence it sharply increased, and increases, my tendency to believe life isn't worth living. It's a horrible thing to be a Christian. The disciples would agree. The non-believers would agree. Jesus Christ would agree. The only people left to come to this conclusion are His believers. I have no idea why. Jesus said to do what He said, or else. We've all apparently chosen or else...
I'll bet for you being a christian is terrible! You are awake to the world of the spirit, the world with God in it, and operating in the world of the flesh, only the physical world. Everything must seem upside down.
 
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You seem to be confused about your words. Although the tone has changed. It doesn't change your mind. If their was a smidge of honesty to what you said, then I would have found it. However, you decided to go about it in the wrong way. Your opinion is needed. I've got your back, but you've had an over abundance.

God is done, and that's more than you can say.
You are right. Your not liking what I like does not change what I like. You believe I am being dishonest, I do not believe I am. Please show me one sentence that i said, that you have evidence is untrue. Your belief that you are capable of finding dishonesty may in fact be incorrect.

i do not understand why you say: Your opinion is needed. I've got your back, but you've had an over abundance.

And God is not done with you. You would not be here trying to argue with me if you were comfortable in your position of rejecting Him.
 
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Most suicides are committed by men between their teenage years and middle age, and I'm going to suggest a reason.

Ever hear the old adage about a man who gets heartbroken and goes to war? I think suicide falls in the same bracket.

I can guarantee you if you did a study correlating the modern views on sex, relationships and women's roles in it all, you would find a stark connection between men who killed themselves and their partners' changing views on marriage/sex/relationships, or a divorce or some sort of negative scenario regarding the spouse.

I've had a few people I know kill themselves and there's always a girl involved.

And I can also pretty much guarantee that the female suicides are mostly due to family loss or some form of body dysmorphic disorder.
 
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