To Troll or not to Troll,That is the Question

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kaylagrl

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How about differentiating on troll/not-troll?

It is as if there's a prize if someone gets to claim "troll" first.

Meanwhile there is a young woman on this forum who apparently had quite a few people PMing her to give her the wonderful news that she is a troll, when, in reality? Probably not.

There was another guy in exhausting pain because of all the pain his son is in. He was furious at God. He got the "you're a troll" so fast, now he is furious at God and Christians. Peachy keen. The only differences between he and I one year ago were -- my husband, not my son. And, people knew me before my meltdown so gave me comfort. (Well, most did.)

There are two guys who stayed on here after being hounded for a good two weeks with the "you're a troll" game. You know what they really are? Neuro-atypical. The only reason they survived the hazing.

I can think of quite a few people who came and left after the trouncing. I remember them because they weren't trolls. They had serious mental illnesses. (Usually schzioaffective disorders, but I think one might have been on the downside of bipolar. Never had enough time to find out.) Still don't know how to deal with people like that, but I'm sure trouncing them with "TROLL" doesn't work, and certainly isn't what we're supposed to be doing as believers.

And then there really are trolls. They come in a few varieties too. The standard issue:
-- "I can prove to you that God isn't real."
-- "I am the prophet of God/Jesus himself."
-- "How far can I yank your chain?"
-- "How many posts of pure nonsense can I create before anyone calls me on it."

The first one bores me, because it's usually the same ole same ole with no ears to hear. BUT, what if we formed groups ourselves? I've got no more heart to listen to that garbage; however, if no one had that heart, my husband wouldn't be a believer today. He met a woman who knew her Bible inside out and backwards. Before her, he ran into marginal christians or babes, and he could slice and dice their beliefs to shreds. I see lots of people trying to prove God with that kind, but frankly, most of them can be sliced-and-diced. Can we, as a group, (compared to make this a thing the mods have to deal with), function in such a way that only those with the hearts to deal with those trolls, and the Bible background to kill the delusions being posed respond? And then the rest of us PM the newbies or babes to let them know that they should back away while the Evangelists/Apologists take center field for that battle? Or maybe create a warning/informational post saved, so any one of us can post as needed?

IDK. I do get there are trolls. I just don't think the default should be "assume troll until otherwise notified." And, I don't think once it's established that the person really is a troll, it's time to report. Sometimes it's past time to report, but most of the reporting we do is to sustain our comfort levels, and they're merely bogarting our buzz.

I still remember Willie made friends with a troll right before the guy was banned from previous infractions. That's one guy who might have stuck around and become real. (One guy. Came more than once, but later visits, a few of us caught on he was okay despite his antics.)

WWJD?

I have been talking to people and felt they were a troll. Then something they said made me change my approach.Some have just left,some were banned. But for some reason I felt there was something more than just trolling.Thats my point,its hard to tell. Mods say don't engage,but sometimes its not as clear cut as you would think.
 
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And Jesus said "the things I can do you can do also, and greater things." I'm someone who sees Jesus as being on the same level to all of us except he was as close to God as anyone could ever get. I don't put him on a pedestal, and say we don't have that power. I really think this is the most limiting perspective many Christians have. It's a cop-out for being able to judge others, throw out the trolls, and not see who you don't want to see as human.

So yes, WWJD? Well he wouldn't create walls between him and those he judged as in-need, due to thinking he couldn't deal with them. Even the most challenging people, trolls included, have something to teach us, and we them.
 
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I have been talking to people and felt they were a troll. Then something they said made me change my approach.Some have just left,some were banned. But for some reason I felt there was something more than just trolling.Thats my point,its hard to tell. Mods say don't engage,but sometimes its not as clear cut as you would think.
I have several E-mail addresses. One is even still routed through an official LE agency. I have decided that I am going to give one of those e-mail addresses to anyone I have determined might be a Troll. One-on-one, disruptive people often behave much differently than they do when they know they have an audience. I'm going to risk it, anyway.
 
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This may sound strange, but my intention is rarely ever for people "trolling" to just leave. I want simple awareness and admission (on both sides) that they really came to cause some ____ , and then we all can drop it and get on with at least an attempt at rational conversation.
And that, in part, is of why I'm saying what I'm saying now. (Your fault, Willie. I listened. lol)
 
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Well, usually, they are new people here. It is rare that a normal person is going to burst right into any heretofore unbreached social situation without putting out some "feelers", and receiving some indicators of how the local waters are, and how their ideas would best be introduced.
Yeah, but that also assumes "either normal person or troll." There are other choices.
 
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I have problems keeping quiet while someone starts a thread broadcasting Jesus Christ was not perfect and it's biblical....Troll or not. Pray for me. :rolleyes:
I am woman.

Quiet is a choice?


(What became of that "What new thing did you learn today" thread?)
 

RickyZ

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Even if a thread is started by a troll, there are many who read legitimate posts therein and get something out of it.

Until it goes haywire...

The answer to a troll is to pray for them. They think they are here to disrupt, but many are here in response to the Spirit's wooing. they just don't know that yet :)
 
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Problem is that many of the trolls come here and troll us just for kicks and giggles..
Problem is many aren't trolls and that's not why they're doing what they're doing. If the worst thing that happens to me in life is someone kicks me or giggles, it has been a very good life. Considering this is online and we don't have feel-o-rama yet, (therefore no one can truly kick me), it's a fantastic life!
 
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kaylagrl

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I have several E-mail addresses. One is even still routed through an official LE agency. I have decided that I am going to give one of those e-mail addresses to anyone I have determined might be a Troll. One-on-one, disruptive people often behave much differently than they do when they know they have an audience. I'm going to risk it, anyway.

Please,let us know how that turns out. Its an interesting exercise.
 

blue_ladybug

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What's an LE agency? :confused:


I have several E-mail addresses. One is even still routed through an official LE agency. I have decided that I am going to give one of those e-mail addresses to anyone I have determined might be a Troll. One-on-one, disruptive people often behave much differently than they do when they know they have an audience. I'm going to risk it, anyway.
 
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I usually see them but some of them go on and on for pages before finally being pinned down to what they really believe. We have a new person that just introduced themselves as an atheist. They're being upfront about their beliefs,I respect that more. At least we have a starting point for discussion.
But I actually enjoy some of the debates I get into with such people.
 

Angela53510

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I saw that "The Born of God" thread when he first posted it. My first thought was "troll" and I walked away from it

That is my new way of dealing with things I don't like! Walk away!

Anyone notice I am not around very much anymore? Lol