Where is humanity?

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lihle

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Yesterday a group of community residents divided to take the law into their own hands when a teen girl was dragged from her house and raped at the community sports field. The girl identified the rapist and the residents cought him, cut off his private parts before burning him to death. When the police finally arrived it was too late and the angry mob burned one of the police cars. Few streets down a mother has gone to work leaving her 14 year old boy getting ready for school, the mam came in raped the boy and beat him up,the boy died few hours later. All this happen yesterday morning in my community where I live. What happened to humanity? Why are people being so heartless and cruel to other human beings? Where are we suppose to raise our kids if they not even safe in their own homes? God help us
 
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biblicalsandy

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End times prophecy of how bad things are getting, I am so sorry you are witnessing this..Prayers for all
 
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biblicalsandy

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[h=1]2 Timothy 3:1-5King James Version (KJV)[/h]3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
 
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JustAnotherUser

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Unfortunately, many tragic things have happened since mankind has been in existence. It's nothing new since somewhere in the world at some point it has happened. In the older centuries in some societies it was considered as normal to put suspecting witches, unbelievers and anyone not identified under their tribe, culture or religion to death, which now is considered as unacceptable, etc. Criminality has always been a subject that lingers and people become enraged when it involves closely or directly at them. Two wrongs don't make a right, but the enrage on the first situation was justified in the sense that they wanted justice done on the rapist, even though the outcome was not how the law was able to handle it. The second one, however, seems to have been a criminal act that could've involved people they knew or the boy was at the wrong place at the wrong time with a loony hanging around the area.

Nevertheless, bad things happen because people are unstable and try to justify the realities they claim that are there for them in order to go with the intents that they do. Some societies have this more permissible such as rape culture (not the 'radicalized' version that the west has, which is a different subject.) People don't follow absolute rules and moralities due to the rebellion that it does not always fit within their preferred lifestyle, while others seek for some sort of revenge. People who see injustices can also go to no lengths if they find that their standards of ruling are not hounding on certain injustices they are finding present, so it gives them some form of permission to do wrongs. We are in a broken world where if an overall society is corrupt and unstable, chances are that criminality will be higher as to what specific criminal acts they are able to get away with. That's a rule that has not changed no matter how evolved society has become.

I hope it makes somewhat sense, even if it may not directly answer your question. I do sympathize of the rape and murder that went on close to home for you since nobody wants to think that they are at risk of danger that has been present not too far away from them. There is good in humanity even though evil things tend to triumph our attention within our surroundings.
 
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Yesterday a group of community residents divided to take the law into their own hands when a teen girl was dragged from her house and raped at the community sports field. The girl identified the rapist and the residents cought him, cut off his private parts before burning him to death. When the police finally arrived it was too late and the angry mob burned one of the police cars. Few streets down a mother has gone to work leaving her 14 year old boy getting ready for school, the mam came in raped the boy and beat him up,the boy died few hours later. All this happen yesterday morning in my community where I live. What happened to humanity? Why are people being so heartless and cruel to other human beings? Where are we suppose to raise our kids if they not even safe in their own homes? God help us
The other day, I asked people what it's like to live in a terrorist country. You were one of a few people I was thinking about. Terrorists are in control of your country without ever having to start a coup or win an election. They won international media support. Your country went from bad to worse a couple of decades ago, because it felt guilty over Apartheid, so swung in the exact opposite direction. Instead of being ruled by old Europeans, it went to anarchy -- no rules.

The anarchists have won. They didn't want to be weighed down by anything -- man or rule. They kicked out generations of Europeans who became South Africans to get their farms, (the Afrikaans), and now they sit there having no clue how to run a farm. You're country used to be a leading exporter of farm goods. (We're America -- home of corn -- and yet we import corn/maize from your country. lol And castor seed oil is very big over here too.) Now there is nothing for them to work for or to work with. And they're out to attack anyone that has something they want, right down to raping whoever.

We started down the same path. Right now two groups expect the rest of our country to roll over and let them do whatever they want. One group is the LBGT community. The other is "Black Lives Matter." (Do not think either group represents the larger group. Most homosexuals and blacks do NOT want anarchy, but the few who do are feeding our mass media, who tells the rest of us that what they say is true.) It's at the tipping point where our police are afraid to stop any crime done by thugs who happen to be black. (The vigilant homosexual community use the court system to enact their agenda.) If anything goes wrong, it's the cop who gets the criminal charges and lawsuits until proven innocent beyond all doubt.

We're getting where you are. We are just taking longer to get there.

Where is humanity? This IS humanity! This is humanism. And this is why both countries are in need of God reigning again over the countries.

I don't know if it gets better or worse than this. I do know without God it gets nothing but worse. I just don't know if it is his plan to save either of our countries. We can only pray he saves some out of both countries.
 
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lihle

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It's so true our country has gone from bad to worse, i'm not saying our people didn't suffer under the apartheid rule, the was a lot of injustice suffered by non whites i get that and being a black woman I still feel some injustice even now. But that doesn't excuse the lawlessness amongst our people. Yes we are free but I we do not always know what to do with this freedom. I read somewhere that once you take God out of the country, it falls into pieces. I still remember growing up( in the apartheid era) when our country put God first in everything. Every gathering was open in prayer, in schools, in community meetings all the way up to parliament. But nowadays we are free to worship whoever or however we please and the outcome is not a pleasant one.
 
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The other day, I asked people what it's like to live in a terrorist country. You were one of a few people I was thinking about. Terrorists are in control of your country without ever having to start a coup or win an election. They won international media support. Your country went from bad to worse a couple of decades ago, because it felt guilty over Apartheid, so swung in the exact opposite direction. Instead of being ruled by old Europeans, it went to anarchy -- no rules.

The anarchists have won. They didn't want to be weighed down by anything -- man or rule. They kicked out generations of Europeans who became South Africans to get their farms, (the Afrikaans), and now they sit there having no clue how to run a farm. You're country used to be a leading exporter of farm goods. (We're America -- home of corn -- and yet we import corn/maize from your country. lol And castor seed oil is very big over here too.) Now there is nothing for them to work for or to work with. And they're out to attack anyone that has something they want, right down to raping whoever.

We started down the same path. Right now two groups expect the rest of our country to roll over and let them do whatever they want. One group is the LBGT community. The other is "Black Lives Matter." (Do not think either group represents the larger group. Most homosexuals and blacks do NOT want anarchy, but the few who do are feeding our mass media, who tells the rest of us that what they say is true.) It's at the tipping point where our police are afraid to stop any crime done by thugs who happen to be black. (The vigilant homosexual community use the court system to enact their agenda.) If anything goes wrong, it's the cop who gets the criminal charges and lawsuits until proven innocent beyond all doubt.

We're getting where you are. We are just taking longer to get there.

Where is humanity? This IS humanity! This is humanism. And this is why both countries are in need of God reigning again over the countries.

I don't know if it gets better or worse than this. I do know without God it gets nothing but worse. I just don't know if it is his plan to save either of our countries. We can only pray he saves some out of both countries.
The Dutch went to South Africa to capture black Africans, who were then sent on coffin boats to the Americas to become slaves for white people. South African culture was overrun by rich white men who treated the blacks like dirt for hundreds of years.

Yes, Nelson Mandela was a murdering terrorist, but he was also a man who spent decades in prison to pay for his crimes, and when he came out he changed South Africa's political policies towards equality. The issue isn't that the country is run by terrorists, the issue is that racism and violence are deeply and perhaps irrevocably ingrained in South African culture, and truth be told, you can thank white superiority for starting it all off.

South Africa is not a terrorist country. Terrorism hasn't been a significant threat since the end of the apartheid.
 
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lihle

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It is not about who is wrong or right, it's about people who has lost the value of other fellow human an dignity. We have gone to through some bad times as a country and we still are struggling to treat or see each other as equals both black's and whites. And only a few white people that left the country when Africans came to power. And both black's and whites have lost humanity. Not so long ago there was this high profile case of Oscar Pretorious, an athlet athletic hero who shot and killed his girlfriend( and he is white). Before that there was Dewali case( an India who hired criminals to murder his wife while they were on their honeymoon here in SA. So it not about a certain race, its not about rich or poor, it is about human race loosing its humanity.
 
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atwhatcost

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It's so true our country has gone from bad to worse, i'm not saying our people didn't suffer under the apartheid rule, the was a lot of injustice suffered by non whites i get that and being a black woman I still feel some injustice even now. But that doesn't excuse the lawlessness amongst our people. Yes we are free but I we do not always know what to do with this freedom. I read somewhere that once you take God out of the country, it falls into pieces. I still remember growing up( in the apartheid era) when our country put God first in everything. Every gathering was open in prayer, in schools, in community meetings all the way up to parliament. But nowadays we are free to worship whoever or however we please and the outcome is not a pleasant one.
I don't think Apartheid was right or godly. When people make any other people second-class citizens, or less, (my country was founded on slavery, so I'm not saying we were any better), that's not God, even if the words sound like Christian words.

Your country swung like a pendulum -- from one bad extreme to another bad extreme. There's only one "extreme" change that is good. He is God.

In no time in history did any country ever put God first for long. The good news is he still has himself a people. The tough part is we live among those who aren't his people.
 
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atwhatcost

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The Dutch went to South Africa to capture black Africans, who were then sent on coffin boats to the Americas to become slaves for white people. South African culture was overrun by rich white men who treated the blacks like dirt for hundreds of years.

Yes, Nelson Mandela was a murdering terrorist, but he was also a man who spent decades in prison to pay for his crimes, and when he came out he changed South Africa's political policies towards equality. The issue isn't that the country is run by terrorists, the issue is that racism and violence are deeply and perhaps irrevocably ingrained in South African culture, and truth be told, you can thank white superiority for starting it all off.

South Africa is not a terrorist country. Terrorism hasn't been a significant threat since the end of the apartheid.
It's not a "terrorist country" as far as sending it's terrorists out to conquer other countries. It is controlled by anarchists, which by the very nature of anarchy is terrorism to anyone who doesn't agree with them.

(Also, I have no idea why I would want to thank white superiority, if I even believed that junk.)
 
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lihle

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This morning streets full of burned car tires still smoke and fire still flickering, big stones pushed into the roads, making driving difficult for taxis and cars. This is a result of yet another act of angry community members who say they are tired of crime and drugs that has taken over this once peaceful community. Last night another victim burned to death accused of mugging and stealing a cell phone, police were able to save two people who were also accused of stealing. At the moment it seems to be quiet because the police have been visible on the streets through out the whole day. Praying for safety and peace and that this spirit of intorarence and lawlessness goes away.
 
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atwhatcost

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This morning streets full of burned car tires still smoke and fire still flickering, big stones pushed into the roads, making driving difficult for taxis and cars. This is a result of yet another act of angry community members who say they are tired of crime and drugs that has taken over this once peaceful community. Last night another victim burned to death accused of mugging and stealing a cell phone, police were able to save two people who were also accused of stealing. At the moment it seems to be quiet because the police have been visible on the streets through out the whole day. Praying for safety and peace and that this spirit of intorarence and lawlessness goes away.
Can you start a community project? Something to get the neighbors working together? Maybe a community garden, or cleaning up the mess, a beautification project, or even making a dessert and passing it out to the neighbors? One of the best ways to get a community safe again is when it comes together. If someone is sick, gather neighbors to help -- send meals, have a day to go clean the person's house, just visit? We did this in a neighborhood church. Can't you do something for the neighborhood by gathering the people together? Once they realize their neighbors aren't the enemy, it could change -- at least in that one neighborhood.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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My heart goes out to the police force there, especially.

lihle, I'm concerned for your safety!

What happened to humanity?
It's still prevalent. What we read of and hear of most are the exceptions, but there is some good in people.
 
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lihle

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My heart goes out to the police force there, especially.

lihle, I'm concerned for your safety!


It's still prevalent. What we read of and hear of most are the exceptions, but there is some good in people.
Thank you Siberian for your concern, I and the kids away from the riots, there has been a lot of bystanders who get hurt from rubber bullets( the police use them to chase the growd away. Please pray with us that this violence end, that we won't have anymore killings.
 
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lihle

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Can you start a community project? Something to get the neighbors working together? Maybe a community garden, or cleaning up the mess, a beautification project, or even making a dessert and passing it out to the neighbors? One of the best ways to get a community safe again is when it comes together. If someone is sick, gather neighbors to help -- send meals, have a day to go clean the person's house, just visit? We did this in a neighborhood church. Can't you do something for the neighborhood by gathering the people together? Once they realize their neighbors aren't the enemy, it could change -- at least in that one neighborhood.
When people are so angry it is hard to reason with them, if they think you standing in their way of what they consider to be justice, they might just hurt you together with those they think they have done them wrong. A lot of Christians are praying for peace, that is the only thing we can do. There are very powerful people or forces who are storing up the community to settle their own scores, they using the people who are tired of being muged, robbed and who feel that their children are not safe anymore. It is heart breaking for the rape victims but as someone had said two wrongs don't make it weight. It wish that the community could have handled the situation differently like a peaceful march and handind the perpetrators to the police so that justice could be done. I'm asking for prayers that the violence would stop.
 

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It's so true our country has gone from bad to worse, i'm not saying our people didn't suffer under the apartheid rule, the was a lot of injustice suffered by non whites i get that and being a black woman I still feel some injustice even now. But that doesn't excuse the lawlessness amongst our people. Yes we are free but I we do not always know what to do with this freedom. I read somewhere that once you take God out of the country, it falls into pieces. I still remember growing up( in the apartheid era) when our country put God first in everything. Every gathering was open in prayer, in schools, in community meetings all the way up to parliament. But nowadays we are free to worship whoever or however we please and the outcome is not a pleasant one.
A country may be set free politically yet the people remain bound...in sin.
 
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lihle

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This morning I was woken up by the sound of helicopter hovering over the township. There was few fires where the people were burning tires, the protesting is back on, not sure what is about this time. My son took another exit where people don't usually use to try to get to work, while walking someone strike him with a rod on the cheeck, he came back hom, face is a bit swollen, i put some ice on, nothing much we can do, can't get to hospital since all exits are blocked by the protesters. He is fine but a bit shaken up.
 
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This morning I was woken up by the sound of helicopter hovering over the township. There was few fires where the people were burning tires, the protesting is back on, not sure what is about this time. My son took another exit where people don't usually use to try to get to work, while walking someone strike him with a rod on the cheeck, he came back hom, face is a bit swollen, i put some ice on, nothing much we can do, can't get to hospital since all exits are blocked by the protesters. He is fine but a bit shaken up.
I hope you will stay safe and be comforted by Jesus lihle. Indeed, civil unrest, violence, war, all these are seemingly spreading. It is ugly and growing all over in many countries this year sadly, even America. Hope your son will be okay too and heals quickly.
 
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lihle

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I hope you will stay safe and be comforted by Jesus lihle. Indeed, civil unrest, violence, war, all these are seemingly spreading. It is ugly and growing all over in many countries this year sadly, even America. Hope your son will be okay too and heals quickly.
Thank you brother, keep praying for our community.
 
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Its sad that there is such evil in some people. My prayers are with you and your community.