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Amen to that, I would hope so too. If the aspirin I buy didn't have to cover the cost of half a dozen they had to give away, who knows, that $15 aspirin might only cost me $10 
(A joke, obviously it will still be outrageous).
Point is, at some point we all will need medical care, and it needs to be more than an afterthought to the oops moment. When I was 31 I ripped my leg off in a sporting accident, the cost of care and rehab to return me to duty was over 6 figures. I was in daily therapy for 13 months. Would your pocket cash cover that? I doubt it. So what, you'll just stay crippled then? Pass your costs off to the taxpayers and insured? You seem like too nice a girl to want to do that. So you bite the bullet and pay into the pool during the years you don't need it, to build it up for the times that you do.
Now, how you are supposed to pay for it is another thing. The average US worker hasn't seen an effective raise since 1975. Instead of bullying healthcare for most, why don't you see about fixing that problem? If you were making a living wage, paying for healthcare wouldn't be an issue.
(A joke, obviously it will still be outrageous).Point is, at some point we all will need medical care, and it needs to be more than an afterthought to the oops moment. When I was 31 I ripped my leg off in a sporting accident, the cost of care and rehab to return me to duty was over 6 figures. I was in daily therapy for 13 months. Would your pocket cash cover that? I doubt it. So what, you'll just stay crippled then? Pass your costs off to the taxpayers and insured? You seem like too nice a girl to want to do that. So you bite the bullet and pay into the pool during the years you don't need it, to build it up for the times that you do.
Now, how you are supposed to pay for it is another thing. The average US worker hasn't seen an effective raise since 1975. Instead of bullying healthcare for most, why don't you see about fixing that problem? If you were making a living wage, paying for healthcare wouldn't be an issue.
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Amen to that, I would hope so too. If the aspirin I buy didn't have to cover the cost of half a dozen they had to give away, who knows, that $15 aspirin might only cost me $10 (A joke, obviously it will still be outrageous).
Point is, at some point we all will need medical care, and it needs to be more than an afterthought to the oops moment. When I was 31 I ripped my leg off in a sporting accident, the cost of care and rehab to return me to duty was over 6 figures. I was in daily therapy for 13 months. Would your pocket cash cover that? I doubt it. So what, you'll just stay crippled then? Pass your costs off to the taxpayers and insured? You seem like too nice a girl to want to do that. So you bite the bullet and pay into the pool during the years you don't need it, to build it up for the times that you do.
Now, how you are supposed to pay for it is another thing. The average US worker hasn't seen an effective raise since 1975. Instead of bullying healthcare for most, why don't you see about fixing that problem? If you were making a living wage, paying for healthcare wouldn't be an issue.
(A joke, obviously it will still be outrageous).Point is, at some point we all will need medical care, and it needs to be more than an afterthought to the oops moment. When I was 31 I ripped my leg off in a sporting accident, the cost of care and rehab to return me to duty was over 6 figures. I was in daily therapy for 13 months. Would your pocket cash cover that? I doubt it. So what, you'll just stay crippled then? Pass your costs off to the taxpayers and insured? You seem like too nice a girl to want to do that. So you bite the bullet and pay into the pool during the years you don't need it, to build it up for the times that you do.
Now, how you are supposed to pay for it is another thing. The average US worker hasn't seen an effective raise since 1975. Instead of bullying healthcare for most, why don't you see about fixing that problem? If you were making a living wage, paying for healthcare wouldn't be an issue.
What supporters of socialised healthcare seem to misunderstand, is that it effectively gives health providers a monopoly on health care. Where is the incentive for providing high quality, low cost service? There isn't one. You will find that since health care providers have a captive market, their service quality will drop, and their price will increase, as with all other monopolies. And when this happens, the "health tax" will be increased, enslaving Americans further.
The best thing to do for this situation (and all situations) is to get government out of where it doesn't belong (e.g. regulating health care). But this isn't considered, as the end-game isn't about health - it's about control.
Amen to that, I would hope so too. If the aspirin I buy didn't have to cover the cost of half a dozen they had to give away, who knows, that $15 aspirin might only cost me $10 (A joke, obviously it will still be outrageous).
Point is, at some point we all will need medical care, and it needs to be more than an afterthought to the oops moment. When I was 31 I ripped my leg off in a sporting accident, the cost of care and rehab to return me to duty was over 6 figures. I was in daily therapy for 13 months. Would your pocket cash cover that? I doubt it. So what, you'll just stay crippled then? Pass your costs off to the taxpayers and insured? You seem like too nice a girl to want to do that. So you bite the bullet and pay into the pool during the years you don't need it, to build it up for the times that you do.
Now, how you are supposed to pay for it is another thing. The average US worker hasn't seen an effective raise since 1975. Instead of bullying healthcare for most, why don't you see about fixing that problem? If you were making a living wage, paying for healthcare wouldn't be an issue.
(A joke, obviously it will still be outrageous).Point is, at some point we all will need medical care, and it needs to be more than an afterthought to the oops moment. When I was 31 I ripped my leg off in a sporting accident, the cost of care and rehab to return me to duty was over 6 figures. I was in daily therapy for 13 months. Would your pocket cash cover that? I doubt it. So what, you'll just stay crippled then? Pass your costs off to the taxpayers and insured? You seem like too nice a girl to want to do that. So you bite the bullet and pay into the pool during the years you don't need it, to build it up for the times that you do.
Now, how you are supposed to pay for it is another thing. The average US worker hasn't seen an effective raise since 1975. Instead of bullying healthcare for most, why don't you see about fixing that problem? If you were making a living wage, paying for healthcare wouldn't be an issue.
Let us check back say, oh, about April, 2016, and see what the results of all this has been.
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We have the highest health care costs because the U.S.A. is chronically unhealthy! The reason we're unhealthy is because the FDA allows enrichment and processing techniques NOT allowed in any other parts of the world. There are genetic changes in the seed of vegetables, legumes, and grains that will do wonders for CoOp corporate farms bottom lines but have already been shown to have dramatic efffects in children and even linked with autism, ADDisorders, OCD's and all kinds of maladys that have increased 10 fold in the last 30 years. This doesn't even mention that enriched flours, corn products and processed foods and meats cheapened the processed food and upped the profit leve, but fattened the population and caused dramatic increases in cancer, heart disease, and diabetes and associated health problems. Through it all the health industry has actually prolonged death! US citizen is actually living longer than they ever have before. We're just sicker longer.
The argument that US has the lowest quality health care in the world is debateable, but beyond doubt we have the highest per-capita health care cost because we are, sadly, the most unhealthy. We use it the most.
I think it's an unfair agrument a government makes to suggest we all need to pay into a health care industry when the very government in charge of protecting the citizenry is allowing it's citizens to be sick for the sake of the food coroporation industry making money. Not only that, but the US citizens is PAYING for this abuse with subsidy - let's rephrase that - welfare money for these CoOps. I don't even want to talk about Monsanto Corp who OWNS the seed industry. A farmer is FORCED to buy seed from Monsanto and CANNOT use last year's seed and Monsanto recieves subsidy to produce it!. There is literally a ton of info on just how bad our food is in the US and how it's cheaper for a poor man to buy a McDonald's hamburger than to even grow his own tomatoes and beans much less buy tomatos and beans!
My suggestion is eat whole food and grow most of it yourself and try to process your own seed. Exercise. Take care of yourself. Take out a catastrophic health insurance plan with a high deductable and put money in a health savings plan. Cross your fingers and die when you're supposed to.
The argument that US has the lowest quality health care in the world is debateable, but beyond doubt we have the highest per-capita health care cost because we are, sadly, the most unhealthy. We use it the most.
I think it's an unfair agrument a government makes to suggest we all need to pay into a health care industry when the very government in charge of protecting the citizenry is allowing it's citizens to be sick for the sake of the food coroporation industry making money. Not only that, but the US citizens is PAYING for this abuse with subsidy - let's rephrase that - welfare money for these CoOps. I don't even want to talk about Monsanto Corp who OWNS the seed industry. A farmer is FORCED to buy seed from Monsanto and CANNOT use last year's seed and Monsanto recieves subsidy to produce it!. There is literally a ton of info on just how bad our food is in the US and how it's cheaper for a poor man to buy a McDonald's hamburger than to even grow his own tomatoes and beans much less buy tomatos and beans!
My suggestion is eat whole food and grow most of it yourself and try to process your own seed. Exercise. Take care of yourself. Take out a catastrophic health insurance plan with a high deductable and put money in a health savings plan. Cross your fingers and die when you're supposed to.
Why should I have to pay for your reckless driving, or any other form of mishap you might encounter while uninsured? We are all human and we are all prone to getting sick and injured, however it may happen. By not being insured you're saying you don't care what happens or why, just that when it hits the fan for you, all of us taxpayers and insurance payers can foot your bill. Why should I have to pay your bill? Perhaps we should just not treat you?
Don't get me wrong, it's still a sucky system that needs to be changed. But while that is in the works (ha!) we have to work with what we have... ALL of us.
Personally, I think the first thing we need to do is make all health insurance NON-PROFIT. Every dollar that goes to a shareholder is a dollar someone spent for healthcare and didn't get.
True, but man plays his part as that powers' pawn.
Absolutely. The system is still gamed for the wealthy and corporate greed. April 2016 should prove very interesting - or disturbing.
Perhaps in 2014 we should throw the whole bunch out and start over.
Don't get me wrong, it's still a sucky system that needs to be changed. But while that is in the works (ha!) we have to work with what we have... ALL of us.
Personally, I think the first thing we need to do is make all health insurance NON-PROFIT. Every dollar that goes to a shareholder is a dollar someone spent for healthcare and didn't get.
True, but man plays his part as that powers' pawn.
Absolutely. The system is still gamed for the wealthy and corporate greed. April 2016 should prove very interesting - or disturbing.
Perhaps in 2014 we should throw the whole bunch out and start over.
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I don't understand this part. If I'm not insured and something goes wrong for me, why does that mean the taxpayers or insurance payers foot my bill? Doesn't no insurance mean I foot it, or don't get treatment?
Hopefully all that money I saved on insurance premiums will mean I can pay the bill outright.
Hopefully all that money I saved on insurance premiums will mean I can pay the bill outright.
I don't understand this part. If I'm not insured and something goes wrong for me, why does that mean the taxpayers or insurance payers foot my bill? Doesn't no insurance mean I foot it, or don't get treatment?
hopefully we all do have a way to pay for ourselves. not too many years ago, i had to have procedures done and paid over 7 grand out of pocket. i'm insured now, but if i'm sure of anything it's that the actuaries that designed my policy optimized it so they'll be likely to get a lot more than $7,000 out of me before they pay $7,000 out.
does usury have no small part in the economics of healthcare?
in my heart, i wish there were some way healthcare could be separated entirely from money. i don't think it ought to be a 'for-profit' endeavor.
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As well it is Federal Law that ANY Emergency Room must treat any person who comes in, regardless if they can pay or not. Been this way quite awhile.........However, the problem arises when people want/need general care.....from a Primary Physician. Without Health Insurance, they can not receive this care. Basic Health Care is only available to the Insured, or those with enough cash to pay in advance of receiving any care.