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One problem I see with that deadliest animals chart is that most of the killer animals inhabit only certain regions of the Earth and in limited numbers. My chances to meet a shark, a lion, an elephant, a hippo, a crocodile or a tsetse fly anywhere in Germany outside of a zoo are pretty much zero. Humans, on the other hand, are everywhere and far more numerous, hence more killings.
She introduces herself as a heathen and an atheist, and said she hopes she won't get banned. :/ To introduce yourself is to say "hi my name is.. I come from.. glad to be here." Along those lines. Introducing yourself as a heathen and atheist is a STATEMENT, not an introduction. Other members have told newbies on other threads, the same I told her. The subject she presented belongs in another forum, not this one.. Ask a mod, they'll tell you the same thing: that this forum is for introductions ONLY.. 
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She introduces herself as a heathen and an atheist, and said she hopes she won't get banned. :/ To introduce yourself is to say "hi my name is.. I come from.. glad to be here." Along those lines. Introducing yourself as a heathen and atheist is a STATEMENT, not an introduction. Other members have told newbies on other threads, the same I told her. The subject she presented belongs in another forum, not this one.. Ask a mod, they'll tell you the same thing: that this forum is for introductions ONLY..
Glad I'm not a mod! ;-)
In that case, we're wrong to debate this here. Perhaps there should also be a sticky with "Introduction Guidelines" or "Introduction Template", which outlines what people are or are not allowed to say in their personal introductions.
Glad I'm not a mod! ;-)
Glad I'm not a mod! ;-)
I agree.. there SHOULD be a sticky of some sort. Other members have created stickies in this, and other forums. Unfortunately not every newbie reads them. And I'm also glad I'm not a mod. Too much work, and a gazillion reports to look through..lol..
Hard for me to believe that all this happened by accident. Hard for me to believe that this is all there is. When it comes time to die then we face God. Not believing doesn't make it not so.
It is truly a fantastic story that God died to atone for the sin of man. Love does many fantastic things so Gods love must do things even more fantastic than we can understand.
Sin does exist there are too many totally evil men in the world to doubt that.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
It is truly a fantastic story that God died to atone for the sin of man. Love does many fantastic things so Gods love must do things even more fantastic than we can understand.
Sin does exist there are too many totally evil men in the world to doubt that.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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yes, but humans should be smart enough not to kill, and still do it. Unlike animals who kill on instinct to defend or feed, we make a informed decision to end a life. The fact that we do it by choice rather than instinct makes the act evil.
as for the number of people, it seems that is isn't proportional with the nr of murders
Almost 750 million people live in countries with the highest homicide rates in the world - namely the Americas and Africa - meaning that almost half of all homicide occurs in countries that are home to just 11 per cent of the earth's population. At the opposite end of the spectrum, 3 billion people - mainly in Europe, Asia and Oceania- live in countries where homicide rates are relatively low.
https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/pres...ide-in-2012-according-to-new-unodc-study.html
and since you love nature, you might be interested to know that the human race, whom you define as good, is rapidly killing the earth
he number of wild animals on Earth has halved in the past 40 years, according to a new analysis. Creatures across land, rivers and the seas are being decimated as humans kill them for food in unsustainable numbers, while polluting or destroying their habitats, the research by scientists at WWF and the Zoological Society of London found.
Earth has lost half of its wildlife in the past 40 years, says WWF | Environment | The Guardian
as for the number of people, it seems that is isn't proportional with the nr of murders
Almost 750 million people live in countries with the highest homicide rates in the world - namely the Americas and Africa - meaning that almost half of all homicide occurs in countries that are home to just 11 per cent of the earth's population. At the opposite end of the spectrum, 3 billion people - mainly in Europe, Asia and Oceania- live in countries where homicide rates are relatively low.
https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/pres...ide-in-2012-according-to-new-unodc-study.html
and since you love nature, you might be interested to know that the human race, whom you define as good, is rapidly killing the earth
he number of wild animals on Earth has halved in the past 40 years, according to a new analysis. Creatures across land, rivers and the seas are being decimated as humans kill them for food in unsustainable numbers, while polluting or destroying their habitats, the research by scientists at WWF and the Zoological Society of London found.
Earth has lost half of its wildlife in the past 40 years, says WWF | Environment | The Guardian
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I've driven in Los Angeles and Chicago, so I know what you are talking about
However, just because people behave like idiots on the road, does that make them totally evil? Most of these people are probably kind and loving towards their families and others who are near to them. "Totally evil" is rather a title for someone like Pol Pot or bin Laden. But in the Christian moral system being rude on the road, or telling a lie, or just not believing in the same God makes you just as evil as them and grants you an eternity in the same hell.
The three people I love most in my life - my parents and my fiance, are all atheists. That does not keep them from being wonderful people. Do they deserve the same hell as bin Laden or Stalin? Do you see how illogical this whole thing is?
However, just because people behave like idiots on the road, does that make them totally evil? Most of these people are probably kind and loving towards their families and others who are near to them. "Totally evil" is rather a title for someone like Pol Pot or bin Laden. But in the Christian moral system being rude on the road, or telling a lie, or just not believing in the same God makes you just as evil as them and grants you an eternity in the same hell.
The three people I love most in my life - my parents and my fiance, are all atheists. That does not keep them from being wonderful people. Do they deserve the same hell as bin Laden or Stalin? Do you see how illogical this whole thing is?
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I've driven in Los Angeles and Chicago, so I know what you are talking about
However, just because people behave like idiots on the road, does that make them totally evil? Most of these people are probably kind and loving towards their families and others who are near to them. "Totally evil" is rather a title for someone like Pol Pot or bin Laden. But in the Christian moral system being rude on the road, or telling a lie, or just not believing in the same God makes you just as evil as them and grants you an eternity in the same hell.
The three people I love most in my life - my parents and my fiance, are all atheists. That does not keep them from being wonderful people. Do they deserve the same hell as bin Laden or Stalin? Do you see how illogical this whole thing is?
However, just because people behave like idiots on the road, does that make them totally evil? Most of these people are probably kind and loving towards their families and others who are near to them. "Totally evil" is rather a title for someone like Pol Pot or bin Laden. But in the Christian moral system being rude on the road, or telling a lie, or just not believing in the same God makes you just as evil as them and grants you an eternity in the same hell.
The three people I love most in my life - my parents and my fiance, are all atheists. That does not keep them from being wonderful people. Do they deserve the same hell as bin Laden or Stalin? Do you see how illogical this whole thing is?
No, I don't think people are generally totally evil. I don't think they're generally on the side of good either -- I used to, but then I joined the Army... let's just say, the scales of my own naiveness/naivety fell from my eyes.
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Well, why do you think people in certain parts of the world are more prone to violence than others?
And killing for food is by itself not evil, every species kills something for food. It's the overpopulation and the craving for more and more sophisticated food that is the problem.
By the way, doesn't the Bible say in Genesis 1 man is supposed to rule over the Earth and subdue it? And a few chapters later, in Genesis 9, God gives man permission to kill for food whatever he likes and as much as he likes. But the Bible says nowhere that man is supposed to take care of nature. It seems, the attitude of man ruling the Earth like a king who can do whatever he wants with his subjects, is pretty consistent with the Bible. That attitude is slowly starting to change in some places recently. Hopefully it will change all over the world.
And killing for food is by itself not evil, every species kills something for food. It's the overpopulation and the craving for more and more sophisticated food that is the problem.
By the way, doesn't the Bible say in Genesis 1 man is supposed to rule over the Earth and subdue it? And a few chapters later, in Genesis 9, God gives man permission to kill for food whatever he likes and as much as he likes. But the Bible says nowhere that man is supposed to take care of nature. It seems, the attitude of man ruling the Earth like a king who can do whatever he wants with his subjects, is pretty consistent with the Bible. That attitude is slowly starting to change in some places recently. Hopefully it will change all over the world.
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In some translations, Genesis 2:5 reads: (ERV) "This was before there were plants on the earth. Nothing was growing in the fields because the Lord God had not yet made it rain on the earth, and there was no one to care for the plants."
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Genesis 2:5
A few other thoughts from another source:
1. Everything was created to glorify God.
2. Everything God created belongs to God.
3. God reveals Himself through His Creation.
Source: http://www.discipleshipdefined.com/resources/caring-god’s-creation
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Genesis 2:5
A few other thoughts from another source:
1. Everything was created to glorify God.
2. Everything God created belongs to God.
3. God reveals Himself through His Creation.
Source: http://www.discipleshipdefined.com/resources/caring-god’s-creation
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I've driven in Los Angeles and Chicago, so I know what you are talking about
However, just because people behave like idiots on the road, does that make them totally evil? Most of these people are probably kind and loving towards their families and others who are near to them. "Totally evil" is rather a title for someone like Pol Pot or bin Laden. But in the Christian moral system being rude on the road, or telling a lie, or just not believing in the same God makes you just as evil as them and grants you an eternity in the same hell.
The three people I love most in my life - my parents and my fiance, are all atheists. That does not keep them from being wonderful people. Do they deserve the same hell as bin Laden or Stalin? Do you see how illogical this whole thing is?
However, just because people behave like idiots on the road, does that make them totally evil? Most of these people are probably kind and loving towards their families and others who are near to them. "Totally evil" is rather a title for someone like Pol Pot or bin Laden. But in the Christian moral system being rude on the road, or telling a lie, or just not believing in the same God makes you just as evil as them and grants you an eternity in the same hell.
The three people I love most in my life - my parents and my fiance, are all atheists. That does not keep them from being wonderful people. Do they deserve the same hell as bin Laden or Stalin? Do you see how illogical this whole thing is?