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the zany antics of our featured guest,
a funny, mischievous little boy
hiding behind the mask of a nasty, bitter old man,
here it is, the comedic genius of 'Johnny Loverboy',
making the rounds on his 'Comeback Jack' Tour.
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Obviously, Jesus did not choose these many people in Matthew 7:22-23.
Yes He did, as I already shared with you in John 6:40. In John 3:18, Jesus said - He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
"He who rejects Christ and does not keep His words/refuses His words" is descriptive of unbelievers.
Yes He did, as I already shared with you in John 6:40. In John 3:18, Jesus said - He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
"He who rejects Christ and does not keep His words/refuses His words" is descriptive of unbelievers.
To be in Jesus is to have a relationship with him that is as close as one would have with a loving spouse. A relationship which is where each one talks and listens to the other.
Paul said that a Spiritual Christion would have the mind of Jesus Christ. One who has the mind of Jesus Christ always know what Jesus wants one to do. Then God gives one the grace to do as he or she is told.
Apostle John said, to be in Jesus means the following.
(1 John 2:6) “But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did”
Jesus told us that he would be in those who keep his commandments, I doubt many people understand what Jesus said, or mostly don’t want to know what Jesus said.
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”
(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”
Paul said that a Spiritual Christion would have the mind of Jesus Christ. One who has the mind of Jesus Christ always know what Jesus wants one to do. Then God gives one the grace to do as he or she is told.
Apostle John said, to be in Jesus means the following.
(1 John 2:6) “But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did”
Jesus told us that he would be in those who keep his commandments, I doubt many people understand what Jesus said, or mostly don’t want to know what Jesus said.
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”
(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”
I asked you what it means to "believe in" Jesus. The word translated believe is from the greek word pisteuō which means "to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), that is, credit; by implication to entrust (especially one’s spiritual well being to Christ). Those who believe the gospel are in Christ (Ephesians 1:13). Those who believe and have received eternal life know Christ. John 17:3 - And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. The term "know" implies intimate, experiential knowledge, through a relationship with Him, not merely theoretical knowledge. Yet in regards to these many people (unbelievers) in Matthew 7:22-23, Jesus never knew them.
1 Corinthians 2:11 - For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. 13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For "who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?" But we have the mind of Christ.
A more literal translation of 1 John 2:6 - The one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked (NASB).
So many people don't understand what Jesus said or don't want to know what Jesus said, UNLIKE YOU? Is that the implication? Are you tooting your own horn? By the way, to "keep" (Greek tereo) His commandments means:
◄ 5083. téreó ►
Strong's Concordance
téreó: to watch over, to guard
Original Word: τηρέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: téreó
Phonetic Spelling: (tay-reh'-o)
Short Definition: I keep, guard, observe
Definition: I keep, guard, observe, watch over.
HELPS Word-studies
5083 tēréō (from tēros, "a guard") – properly, maintain (preserve); (figuratively) spiritually guard (watch), keep intact.
It does not mean sinless perfect obedience and the implication is not that we are saved by works.
1 John 2:3 - Now by this we know that we know Him, (already know Him/demonstrative evidence) if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 Corinthians 2:11 - For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. 13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For "who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?" But we have the mind of Christ.
A more literal translation of 1 John 2:6 - The one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked (NASB).
So many people don't understand what Jesus said or don't want to know what Jesus said, UNLIKE YOU? Is that the implication? Are you tooting your own horn? By the way, to "keep" (Greek tereo) His commandments means:
◄ 5083. téreó ►
Strong's Concordance
téreó: to watch over, to guard
Original Word: τηρέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: téreó
Phonetic Spelling: (tay-reh'-o)
Short Definition: I keep, guard, observe
Definition: I keep, guard, observe, watch over.
HELPS Word-studies
5083 tēréō (from tēros, "a guard") – properly, maintain (preserve); (figuratively) spiritually guard (watch), keep intact.
It does not mean sinless perfect obedience and the implication is not that we are saved by works.
1 John 2:3 - Now by this we know that we know Him, (already know Him/demonstrative evidence) if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Yes people who still sin, and don’t want to obey God need to find a way to read the written Word of God that does not condemn him or her.
Even some sinners want to believe they are righteous. But scripture tells us that a sinner is of the devil, and has never seen God, nor knows God. One can’t trust anything a sinners says because he or she is of the devil, and the devil has always been a liar.
(1 John 3:5-6) “Now you know that he appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen him or known him.”
(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”
Even some sinners want to believe they are righteous. But scripture tells us that a sinner is of the devil, and has never seen God, nor knows God. One can’t trust anything a sinners says because he or she is of the devil, and the devil has always been a liar.
(1 John 3:5-6) “Now you know that he appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen him or known him.”
(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”
Here we go. You people who still sin? 
So that's what this is all about. You teach SINLESS PERFECTION. Do you believe that you are sinless, without fault of defect, flawless, 100% of the time? Is that what you are trusting in for salvation? Sinless perfect performance on your part?
As Greek scholar AT Robertson points out in 1 John 3:6 (KJV) - Whosoever sinneth (o amartanwn). Present (linear) active articular participle like menwn above, "the one who keeps on sinning" (lives a life of sin, not mere occasional acts of sin as amarthsa, aorist active participle, would mean). Hath not seen him (ouc ewraken auton). Perfect active indicative of oraw. The habit of sin is proof that one has not the vision or the knowledge (egnwken, perfect active also) of Christ. Believers are not sinless, without fault or defect, flawless 100% of the time. 1 John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1 John 3:7 - Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; 8 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.
To "practice" is to perform repeatedly or habitually and thus describes repetition or continuous action. Paul uses the present tense which describes the practice as habitual, as one's lifestyle or bent of life.
As Greek scholar AT Robertson points out - A great deal of false theology has grown out of a misunderstanding of the tense of amartanein here. Paul has precisely John's idea in Romans 6:1 epimenwmen th amartiai (shall we continue in sin, present active linear subjunctive) in contrast with amarthswmen in Romans 6:15 (shall we commit a sin, first aorist active subjunctive).
So that's what this is all about. You teach SINLESS PERFECTION. Do you believe that you are sinless, without fault of defect, flawless, 100% of the time? Is that what you are trusting in for salvation? Sinless perfect performance on your part? As Greek scholar AT Robertson points out in 1 John 3:6 (KJV) - Whosoever sinneth (o amartanwn). Present (linear) active articular participle like menwn above, "the one who keeps on sinning" (lives a life of sin, not mere occasional acts of sin as amarthsa, aorist active participle, would mean). Hath not seen him (ouc ewraken auton). Perfect active indicative of oraw. The habit of sin is proof that one has not the vision or the knowledge (egnwken, perfect active also) of Christ. Believers are not sinless, without fault or defect, flawless 100% of the time. 1 John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1 John 3:7 - Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; 8 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.
To "practice" is to perform repeatedly or habitually and thus describes repetition or continuous action. Paul uses the present tense which describes the practice as habitual, as one's lifestyle or bent of life.
As Greek scholar AT Robertson points out - A great deal of false theology has grown out of a misunderstanding of the tense of amartanein here. Paul has precisely John's idea in Romans 6:1 epimenwmen th amartiai (shall we continue in sin, present active linear subjunctive) in contrast with amarthswmen in Romans 6:15 (shall we commit a sin, first aorist active subjunctive).
Here we go. You people who still sin? So that's what this is all about. You teach SINLESS PERFECTION. Do you believe that you are sinless, without fault of defect, flawless, 100% of the time? Is that what you are trusting in for salvation? Sinless perfect performance on your part?
As Greek scholar AT Robertson points out in 1 John 3:6 (KJV) - Whosoever sinneth (o amartanwn). Present (linear) active articular participle like menwn above, "the one who keeps on sinning" (lives a life of sin, not mere occasional acts of sin as amarthsa, aorist active participle, would mean). Hath not seen him (ouc ewraken auton). Perfect active indicative of oraw. The habit of sin is proof that one has not the vision or the knowledge (egnwken, perfect active also) of Christ. Believers are not sinless, without fault or defect, flawless 100% of the time. 1 John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1 John 3:7 - Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; 8 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.
To "practice" is to perform repeatedly or habitually and thus describes repetition or continuous action. Paul uses the present tense which describes the practice as habitual, as one's lifestyle or bent of life.
As Greek scholar AT Robertson points out - A great deal of false theology has grown out of a misunderstanding of the tense of amartanein here. Paul has precisely John's idea in Romans 6:1 epimenwmen th amartiai (shall we continue in sin, present active linear subjunctive) in contrast with amarthswmen in Romans 6:15 (shall we commit a sin, first aorist active subjunctive).
So that's what this is all about. You teach SINLESS PERFECTION. Do you believe that you are sinless, without fault of defect, flawless, 100% of the time? Is that what you are trusting in for salvation? Sinless perfect performance on your part? As Greek scholar AT Robertson points out in 1 John 3:6 (KJV) - Whosoever sinneth (o amartanwn). Present (linear) active articular participle like menwn above, "the one who keeps on sinning" (lives a life of sin, not mere occasional acts of sin as amarthsa, aorist active participle, would mean). Hath not seen him (ouc ewraken auton). Perfect active indicative of oraw. The habit of sin is proof that one has not the vision or the knowledge (egnwken, perfect active also) of Christ. Believers are not sinless, without fault or defect, flawless 100% of the time. 1 John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1 John 3:7 - Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; 8 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.
To "practice" is to perform repeatedly or habitually and thus describes repetition or continuous action. Paul uses the present tense which describes the practice as habitual, as one's lifestyle or bent of life.
As Greek scholar AT Robertson points out - A great deal of false theology has grown out of a misunderstanding of the tense of amartanein here. Paul has precisely John's idea in Romans 6:1 epimenwmen th amartiai (shall we continue in sin, present active linear subjunctive) in contrast with amarthswmen in Romans 6:15 (shall we commit a sin, first aorist active subjunctive).
John said one has to live like Jesus lived to be in Jesus. Jesus always obeyed his Father in Heaven, and never sinned. He not only did not practice sin, but he never sinned at all. A Christian who walks as the Holy Spirit has him or her walk will be in Jesus Christ our Lord and God.
(1 John 2:6) “But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did”
(1 John 3:5-6) “Now you know that he appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen him or known him.”
John said that in Jesus there is no sin, not that one does not just occasionally sins.
(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.” John did not say a Child of God does not practice sin.
No John said a Child of God cannot sin.
that would only be true f the written word did not say things like this, which is in a letter written not to those outside Christ, but to the believers, the brethren, the saints -- the ones who are saved:
My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father — Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
(1 John 2:1-2)
you see jack, a lot of people only present half the gospel.
at an estimate, i'd say you're presenting something less than a third.
how about you tell us how one can live without sin?
because "anything that is not of faith, is sin"
My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father — Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
(1 John 2:1-2)
you see jack, a lot of people only present half the gospel.
at an estimate, i'd say you're presenting something less than a third.
how about you tell us how one can live without sin?
because "anything that is not of faith, is sin"
This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you:
God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.
(1 John 1:5-10)
we really ought to read the whole book, not just the parts a sensual & vain man may want to lift out to create another gospel with.
no one is without sin. the man who claims to be without sin is a liar and does not walk in the light - he walks in darkness, hoping to cover his sin, and the truth is not in him.
we walk in the light, which reveals all things - we confess our sin and do not cover it, and God is faithful to forgive us and the blood of His Son purifies us.
this is how Jesus lived and lives: in the light, by faith, believing everything the Father told Him and doing everything the Father gave Him to do.
the written word says that everyone is a sinner, and that anyone who denies that is both himself a liar and is calling God a liar too.
so if "Sinners need to find a way to make the written Word say what it does not say"
then literally everyone would need to do this, because literally everyone is a sinner.
in that case the gospel would be very bad news.
thank God though -- this is not the case -- because the actual gospel is much different from this powerless, savior-less bad news jack presents.
The NT was written in Greek then later translated into multiple different languages (including English). You are picking out your pet English translation and ignoring the Greek then taking these verses to the extreme to teach sinless perfection, which the Bible does not teach. I already thoroughly explained the truth to you in post #94. You need to read 1 John 1:5-2:2. Also, sinless perfectionists get tripped up by the word "perfect" which comes from teloioi, end, goal, limit. It can be used as the goal set before us, the absolute standard of our Heavenly Father. The word is used also for relative perfection as of adults compared with children.
So absolute perfection for us will not become a reality until Christ returns and then we will be made perfect with Christ. Yet teleioi is also used to refer to the maturity of an adult, which is the end or aim to which the child points. Thus it denotes those who have attained the full development of innate powers, in contrast to those who are still in the undeveloped state (children).
James 1:4 says - But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.
James 3:2 says - For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body.
James 2:22 says - Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? The NASB says "was perfected," the ESV says "faith was completed by his works."
So depending on how the word "perfect" is used in Scripture, it may refer to "absolute perfection" or "relative perfection."
You never did answer my questions: Do you believe that you are sinless, without fault of defect, flawless, 100% of the time? Is that what you are trusting in for salvation? Sinless perfect performance on your part?
So absolute perfection for us will not become a reality until Christ returns and then we will be made perfect with Christ. Yet teleioi is also used to refer to the maturity of an adult, which is the end or aim to which the child points. Thus it denotes those who have attained the full development of innate powers, in contrast to those who are still in the undeveloped state (children).
James 1:4 says - But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.
James 3:2 says - For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body.
James 2:22 says - Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? The NASB says "was perfected," the ESV says "faith was completed by his works."
So depending on how the word "perfect" is used in Scripture, it may refer to "absolute perfection" or "relative perfection."
You never did answer my questions: Do you believe that you are sinless, without fault of defect, flawless, 100% of the time? Is that what you are trusting in for salvation? Sinless perfect performance on your part?
